W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

June Road and Track test

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Old May 2, 2003 | 02:29 PM
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June Road and Track test

E55 wins! Jag S-Type R 4th, M5 3rd, RS6 2nd. E55 0-60 @4.2 and 1/4 mile 12.4@116.4.. "Technology, torque, luxury and true supercar performance make the E55 the new king of high=performance sedans. "Rarely does an automobile come along that makes you run to the railing, fling your arms open and scream, I am the king of the world."
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Old May 2, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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Good to hear. The acceleration numbers look great, any comments on the handling and braking of the E55.

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Old May 2, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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Brakes and Handling

stopping distance were ~ same , from 60 E55@118FT.. BMW 116ft. From 80 E55 @ 209 Audi @202. The only complaint on braking is about the difficulty of modulation for smooth around-town stops.
Subjective handling ratings:
A=20
B=17.8
J=16.1
M=17.8
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Old May 2, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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Thanks mjoines. Look forward to reading the article when the mag hits the stores.
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That's amazing. Road & Track and Car & Driver are published by the same company. I bet they handed over the same actual cars from the Car & Driver review to the Road & Track editors with different results.
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I like those numbers!
Thanks for the heads up on the article!
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Old May 6, 2003 | 02:44 AM
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The new E55 is holding it's own. By my count, it leads the pack in the mag reviews:

R&T #1
Autocar #1
Sports Car International #1
Top Gear #1
Auto Motor un Sport #1
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Old May 6, 2003 | 08:34 AM
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Old May 6, 2003 | 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by mikE55
The new E55 is holding it's own. By my count, it leads the pack in the mag reviews:

R&T #1
Autocar #1
Sports Car International #1
Top Gear #1
Auto Motor un Sport #1
The April 23 issue of Autocar ranked the M5 over the E55 in its review. As you mentioned above Autocar picked the E55 as the winner in one of their earlier reviews, now they have the M5 as the winner, go figure.
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I guess the W211 E55 will be superior to all UberSedans in 2004 model year because there will be no 2004 M5.

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hey does anybody have this june road and track test scanned? i subscribe but do not have it yet and the local barnes and noble still has last month's issue on the shelf. i would love to read it. thanks for everyone's help.
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The April 23 issue of Autocar ranked the M5 over the E55 in its review. As you mentioned above Autocar picked the E55 as the winner in one of their earlier reviews, now they have the M5 as the winner, go figure.
I must have missed that one. Autocar tested the E55 vs RS6 vs M5 vs S-type R only a few months ago, and the E55 was top dawg. What did they test this time? I don't know of any new contenders.

BTW, even after E55 was named tops, I've seen later issues of Autocar that refer to the M5 being best due to it's previous win over the S-type R when it was first introduced. Seemed like the little side bar comments were just not up to date.
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I must have missed that one. Autocar tested the E55 vs RS6 vs M5 vs S-type R only a few months ago, and the E55 was top dawg. What did they test this time? I don't know of any new contenders.

BTW, even after E55 was named tops, I've seen later issues of Autocar that refer to the M5 being best due to it's previous win over the S-type R when it was first introduced. Seemed like the little side bar comments were just not up to date.
They tested the same cars except the Jaguar was the new XJS model with same engine as the S-type R. I belive in this issue the e55's 0-60 was 4.6 seconds and the 0-100 was 10.4 seconds. I only glanced over the article, but if I remember correctly they were disappointed in the interior(cheap plastic) and the handling in rainy condition??(something to the effect that they did not feel confident pushing the car at high speeds in rainy conditions). Overall, not a very informative article.

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In Road and Track, the E55 posted some of the best numbers yet.
0-60 4.2
1/4 mile 12.4(or 12.5) @ 116mph
0-100 9.4 or 9.2
(sorry for the bad memory-tough night)

R&D clearly had the best 0-100 time I had ever seen. Everybody else barely had the E55 under 10 seconds to 100. But R&D was coming close to the 9 second mark. That is so awsome.

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They also liked the interior "cheap plastics" the most!
They also liked the brakes and the steering.
Sounds like they really drove the car not just rewrite and copy like the other scribes.
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They also liked the interior "cheap plastics" the most!
They also liked the brakes and the steering.
Sounds like they really drove the car not just rewrite and copy like the other scribes.
Are you commenting on the Autocar review or the Road & Track review? Like I said I only glanced at the article in AutoCar, and I could only remember those points. They chose the E55 the winner over the M5 just a short few months ago now they flipped, why?
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Last Autocar test was biased,written by "new" M5 owner.
My comments were about R&T test.
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absent- I figured you were talking about Road & Track article, is that issue out in the stores yet? Also, did Knauz do your renntech C32 or did you have to send down to Florida? Any renntech mods due in the future on your E55? I have to keep my eyes open for you on the Edens , and stay out of the left lane!

Enjoy your E55 when it arrives.
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Sorry to harp about the C&D review, but I couldn't help but notice another inconsistency in their article.

The W211 E55 weighs 4037Lbs with a 70Kg driver and 72 litres of fuel and 15Kg of luggage according to the owners manual and the AMG website. This is about the same as the M5, which was around 200Lb's heavier than the W210 E55. How did the C&D car manage to find the extra 200 odd Lbs that they reported??
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Bones:mods on C32 were done before I picked up the car and yes E55 will get whatever is available from Renntech,but after I break the car in and after I measure it on dyno for a baseline.
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