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Sorry but I don't get that kit, it's the same SC as the Kleemann yet the Kleemann makes 585whp with JUST THE SC, no headers, no nothing yet this only makes just under 500whp??
Also, not everyone can runs headers, they're illegal in alot of places and sound like ****, not everyone wants to drive a Nascar as their daily.
What makes this competitive with the Weistec? The Weistec is a little more but the potential is proven and massive.
The only upside to the Kleemann was that you could make just under 600whp without headers, just the SC, which Weistec says cannot be done on theirs and you need headers past Stage 1.
Sorry but I don't get that kit, it's the same SC as the Kleemann ...
Please explain why you consider this to be "the same as the Kleemann" so I can answer your query with clarity.
Originally Posted by e500slr
... the Kleemann makes 585whp with JUST THE SC, no headers, no nothing yet this only makes just under 500whp?? ...
The Hammer kit adds in excess of 120whp with the CARB calibration & no headers. Kleeman make a good product, however I have not seen any verified data that indicates the Kleemann product can make "585whp with JUST THE SC, no headers". Attached is a non-CARB custom tune running on a 2015 C63 in showroom form (no headers) with a Hammer kit making 590whp, although I cannot yet verify the dyno has been independently verified.
Originally Posted by e500slr
... What makes this competitive with the Weistec? The Weistec is a little more but the potential is proven and massive ...
Yes... Hammer's potential has yet to be fully explored. There are numerous GM LS3's with the similar Magnuson HeartBeat's installed that are pulling >1000whp & 9 sec 1/4's, so I am confident the full potential of Hammer will be exposed before long.
Please explain why you consider this to be "the same as the Kleemann" so I can answer your query with clarity.
The Hammer kit adds in excess of 120whp with the CARB calibration & no headers. Kleeman make a good product, however I have not seen any verified data that indicates the Kleemann product can make "585whp with JUST THE SC, no headers". Attached is a non-CARB custom tune running on a 2015 C63 in showroom form (no headers) with a Hammer kit making 590whp, although I cannot yet verify the dyno has been independently verified.
Yes... Hammer's potential has yet to be fully explored. There are numerous GM LS3's with the similar Magnuson HeartBeat's installed that are pulling >1000whp & 9 sec 1/4's, so I am confident the full potential of Hammer will be exposed before long.
Well, they're both Maggie TVS2300s, I know that not the FULL story but there's the biggest similarity.
Kleemann dyno'ed their car and made that claim. Ask them. Here's a link below. No headers, nothing but the SC kit.
Don't know about CARB and don't care really as it's non existent here.
I didn't realize you were stalking me and have my CC receipts and even cash purchases. If I see you outside my window you ****ing pervert I'm gonna give you a beating your dead beat dad should have.
I know I should've just ignored you because you're just a little keyboard warrior attacking someone who has never provoked or insulted you and doesn't even know you but here you go. Since you know everything I buy you should also know there are some Renntech parts incoming for this vehicle
^^ as of 11/5/2015 you didnt have a cls63 and pretty sure if you bought one in the last 2 weeks you would of posted a thread of how super sweet it is and how with just a tune it would smoke a veyron in the 1/4 and how your thinking of having the motor built to slap on bigger turbos to make it the best drag car ever.... so kinda hard to believe you... so is this your nieghbors car that you took a pic of in middle of night when everyone is sleeping ?
to ricker's point, you dont even have a M156 engine ( i mean you have a 5.5TT now right?) so why do you even care about price of a s/c for a engine you dont have?
Why are you even arguing this? You don't even have an M156.
Originally Posted by e500slr
Not yet I love that engine though, just not sure which chassis to get it in, I don't like the C63. I love the new CLS63 but the new one doesn't have it, just the TT V8. S and CL are too big and so is ML. W211 E63 is too small and a little dated now and W212 E63 just isn't as special as the CLS63 and the interior isn't as good. Imagine they'd put the M156 in the new CLS before putting the new engine
I'm sorry but is this forum some kind of cult/gang? Do people really report things to each other or are there alot of stalkers here? I'm just gobsmacked, this is equally hilarious and creepy, a bunch of strangers trolling my question to a vendor which has nothing to do with them.
Listen, I don't give a **** what you believe or don't believe, I have what is called a LIFE, which is already pretty busy so it's downright retarded for me to sit down and entertain childish arguments. I'm just really intrigued about some people's personalities and behaviors here. I mean grown men talking trash and trolling on an internet forum. Probably bought their cars on a loan with massive interest to fill some void they have, so pathetic and sad really.
By the way that was really creepy that you quoted me from another thread, damn that's good stalking right there, Charles Manson would be proud of this level of creepiness. Now what I said in that post is, the CLS63 didn't come with the M156 so I wasn't sure what car to get it in, not that I didn't want a CLS63 that has an M157 which is a completely different topic. I'm in the market for a C63 Black Series and actually about to get one in the next week, that's why I was asking about the Maggie.
I have a really stupid and crazy idea.....let's stay on the topic of the thread or at least close to it like I was instead of talking smack like toddlers. I'm honestly dying of laughter right now. Mercedes should do a character check before selling their cars and there should be a requirement for a character check even in the used car market because some people are dragging the brand down to the bottom of the barrel.
I'm sorry but is this forum some kind of cult/gang? Do people really report things to each other or are there alot of stalkers here? I'm just gobsmacked, this is equally hilarious and creepy, a bunch of strangers trolling my question to a vendor which has nothing to do with them.
Listen, I don't give a **** what you believe or don't believe, I have what is called a LIFE, which is already pretty busy so it's downright retarded for me to sit down and entertain childish arguments. I'm just really intrigued about some people's personalities and behaviors here. I mean grown men talking trash and trolling on an internet forum. Probably bought their cars on a loan with massive interest to fill some void they have, so pathetic and sad really.
By the way that was really creepy that you quoted me from another thread, damn that's good stalking right there, Charles Manson would be proud of this level of creepiness. Now what I said in that post is, the CLS63 didn't come with the M156 so I wasn't sure what car to get it in, not that I didn't want a CLS63 that has an M157 which is a completely different topic. I'm in the market for a C63 Black Series and actually about to get one in the next week, that's why I was asking about the Maggie.
I have a really stupid and crazy idea.....let's stay on the topic of the thread or at least close to it like I was instead of talking smack like toddlers. I'm honestly dying of laughter right now. Mercedes should do a character check before selling their cars and there should be a requirement for a character check even in the used car market because some people are dragging the brand down to the bottom of the barrel.
If you have a life why are you spending time taking pictures to prove something on an internet forum? The fact you actually took time to make a poster and take a picture, then write a four paragraph diatribe is disturbing in it's own right.
Pot, meet kettle...
Last edited by E55Greasemonkey; 11-23-2015 at 01:27 PM.
I'm sorry but is this forum some kind of cult/gang? Do people really report things to each other or are there alot of stalkers here? I'm just gobsmacked, this is equally hilarious and creepy, a bunch of strangers trolling my question to a vendor which has nothing to do with them.
By the way that was really creepy that you quoted me from another thread, damn that's good stalking right there, Charles Manson would be proud of this level of creepiness. .
lol its not that hard to remember a dumb post from another thread I read and that you were the one posting it ...
probably same reason "the ricker" remembered all the dumb post he read from you.
we have brains and can remember these things and we remember that 99% of your post are about how to make cars you dont have faster than the bugatti veryon (you mention it a lot even though its really not a 1/4 mile car) in the 1/4 mile as if you live your life a 1/4 mile at a time like Vin diesel in too fast too furious toyko drift
Mercedes should do a character check before selling their cars and there should be a requirement for a character check even in the used car market because some people are dragging the brand down to the bottom of the barrel.
I agree with this 100%! which would totally eliminate YOU from the mercedes family after you started this thread below, LMAO love your great character in this statement (meanwhile guys in the cars could of totally killed some innocent people but you though it was cool )
11-08-2013, 07:36 PM
because someone else couldn't. 
I love that engine though, just not sure which chassis to get it in, I don't like the C63. I love the new CLS63 but the new one doesn't have it, just the TT V8. S and CL are too big and so is ML. W211 E63 is too small and a little dated now and W212 E63 just isn't as special as the CLS63 and the interior isn't as good. Imagine they'd put the M156 in the new CLS before putting the new engine 
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