190E 55K
03-01-2015, 04:24 PM
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190E 55K
Hey all.
For some time now this idea has been buggin and i really wanna what you think of it.
My friend has a 190e 4.3 mt, hand built by himself and that thing is pretty fast. Engine has a few tweeks, and last time we checked it made 287 whp. Being 1300 kg, it pulls wells.
Anyway, back to the point, i myself have 04 e55 492 whp/ 675 wnm which is pretty fast down here in georgia. Still modding and making it faster and racing really got me to understand , nomatter what i do to it, there will still be a handfull of cars that will be faster. So it got me thinking why not buy an old 190e , easily strip it down to 1200 kg and swap the engine and tranny from my E
i am still modding so i should go about 540-550 whp and loossing 650 kg shoukd make a world of difference.
What you guys think if this?
For some time now this idea has been buggin and i really wanna what you think of it.
My friend has a 190e 4.3 mt, hand built by himself and that thing is pretty fast. Engine has a few tweeks, and last time we checked it made 287 whp. Being 1300 kg, it pulls wells.
Anyway, back to the point, i myself have 04 e55 492 whp/ 675 wnm which is pretty fast down here in georgia. Still modding and making it faster and racing really got me to understand , nomatter what i do to it, there will still be a handfull of cars that will be faster. So it got me thinking why not buy an old 190e , easily strip it down to 1200 kg and swap the engine and tranny from my E
i am still modding so i should go about 540-550 whp and loossing 650 kg shoukd make a world of difference. What you guys think if this?
03-01-2015, 05:00 PM
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E-ZGO 53hp., 1999 E 430 sport, 2004 E 55, 2008 Tahoe LTZ on 24"s
The electronic side of installing a M113K is more work (read nightmare) than, than the engine/trans swap and rear end change out.
So much better to go with small block chevy & 6 speed.
So much better to go with small block chevy & 6 speed.
03-02-2015, 04:54 AM
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Dude, I think that is an awesome idea. The 190E 2.3 16V is my all time favourite shape, because I remember them racing against the 325is and the Opel Superboss in a class called group 1, from my youth. I have seen a guy here in SA strip his 190E and rebuild it to full DTM race spec with a turbocharger added. The only thing better would be to add a modded M113K motor and trans! It will be an absolute nightmare to do, but the results will be amazing if you pull it off. Go for it.
03-02-2015, 09:39 AM
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Electronics can be dealt with. Wont be a walk in the park, but my electrician can do it.
Of course there will always be someone faster, bust just the idea of having 1:1.9 hp:kg ration is mind boggling
Of course there will always be someone faster, bust just the idea of having 1:1.9 hp:kg ration is mind boggling
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03-02-2015, 01:27 PM
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Dude, I think that is an awesome idea. The 190E 2.3 16V is my all time favourite shape, because I remember them racing against the 325is and the Opel Superboss in a class called group 1, from my youth. I have seen a guy here in SA strip his 190E and rebuild it to full DTM race spec with a turbocharger added. The only thing better would be to add a modded M113K motor and trans! It will be an absolute nightmare to do, but the results will be amazing if you pull it off. Go for it.
03-03-2015, 02:54 AM
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Sticky gkue is not allowed down hers. 60" will be a mess. I doubt i can do better than low 11s. We ll c. For now i am maxing her. Got 492 whp with 83mm sc pulley and 82 mm tb. Starting headers build tonight.
03-04-2015, 12:17 PM
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Engine swap will NOT be an electric nightmare. The M113k is actually archaic in design even for the time it was built, it however makes a ton of power and very durable. If you try to mate it with the stock trans and TCU....might be more of a handful since I don't know if the TCU expects a signal from the ECU to even work
03-04-2015, 10:13 PM
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If you are serious about this swap you might want to read Kaype's thread on the W210 page.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w210-amg/...ther-mods.html
He started with an E430. He first turned it into a 55na and later swapped in a complete 55k drivetrain. He probably has some good insight into what is needed to do your 190E swap
https://mbworld.org/forums/w210-amg/...ther-mods.html
He started with an E430. He first turned it into a 55na and later swapped in a complete 55k drivetrain. He probably has some good insight into what is needed to do your 190E swap
