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mondo 12-10-2018 04:05 AM

CLS55 rims on an E55?
 
anyone running W219 CLS55 rims on a W211 E55? if so, any issues?

i have someone interested in a swap for the aftermarket 20's currently on my car.

hayseed 12-10-2018 06:55 AM

I have them on mine -- a little wider wheel and stance, no issues
CLS55Part Number
A2194011202 9.5 J X 18 H2 ET28
A2194011102 8.5 J X 18 H2 ET25

KAMG 12-10-2018 08:06 AM

I'm running CLS55 wheels. More aggressive stance due to the lower offsets and wider wheels. I have 245 fronts and 275 rears. The rears rub over bigger dips unless I drive raised, but my car is also lowered. I think some guys even run 255 and 285 but they must be not as low. You also have to watch the front as a few people have wrecked their fenders when turning, but they must've been driving slammed and going over some pretty big potholes

G_Money 12-15-2018 02:10 AM

They fit perfect and look great.

E55Greasemonkey 12-16-2018 08:33 PM

They stick out further than the factory E55 wheels. Some like the look, some don't.

mondo 12-16-2018 08:49 PM

i'm just keen to go back to 18's and the guy with the CLS is sort of interested in my wheels. he'll probably need spacers though looking at the offsets etc...

MercMiki 02-18-2019 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by KAMG (Post 7625484)
I'm running CLS55 wheels. More aggressive stance due to the lower offsets and wider wheels. I have 245 fronts and 275 rears. The rears rub over bigger dips unless I drive raised, but my car is also lowered. I think some guys even run 255 and 285 but they must be not as low. You also have to watch the front as a few people have wrecked their fenders when turning, but they must've been driving slammed and going over some pretty big potholes


Originally Posted by [color=black
CLS55Part Number
A2194011202 9.5 J X 18 H2 ET28
A2194011102 8.5 J X 18 H2 ET25

KAMG do you have those ET's?
Is the rear tire rubbing on the inner or outer side?
Have you lowered the car a lot, still on original air suspension?
Asking bcoz I'm gonna use C218 19" wheels with the following specs on my E55 and trying to decide whether to get 5m/10mm, 7mm/12mm or even 10mm/15mm spacers to avoid rubbing if somehow possible...

A2184011702 9.5 J x 19 ET48 + 285/30
A2184011602 8.5 J x 19 ET34.5 + 255/35


AMG__POWER 02-18-2019 09:50 AM

Wheels
 
Yeah I got them too, 19’s and running 285 in the rear. Along with star lowering, for some reason it isn’t letting me post a pic

MercMiki 02-18-2019 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by AMG__POWER (Post 7684273)
Yeah I got them too, 19’s and running 285 in the rear. Along with star lowering, for some reason it isn’t letting me post a pic

Are you using spacers?

AMG__POWER 02-18-2019 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by MercMiki (Post 7684377)
Are you using spacers?

Nope they bolted right on
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...11d19cbb1.jpeg

karpetcm 02-18-2019 12:28 PM

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...187bdb0af0.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...d9aa3cb05e.jpg
I almost bought this one a while ago before mine and he told me its CLS55 wheels on there, 295 rears. I thought they fit just right.

AMG__POWER 02-18-2019 03:36 PM

thats bad a55, imma def go with 295 next, although i wonder if 305 will fit

karpetcm 02-18-2019 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by AMG__POWER (Post 7684606)
thats bad a55, imma def go with 295 next, although i wonder if 305 will fit

Im sure you can put 305's on but in the pic and when I saw it in person I can tell if it went any wider it would kinda buldge. Every tire is different some tires are wider then others even though they both can be 305's. It does give the car a nice stance though that's for sure. I myself will more then likely go with 295's when I swap out the rears.


AMG__POWER 02-18-2019 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by karpetcm (Post 7684647)
Im sure you can put 305's on but in the pic and when I saw it in person I can tell if it went any wider it would kinda buldge. Every tire is different some tires are wider then others even though they both can be 305's. It does give the car a nice stance though that's for sure. I myself will more then likely go with 295's when I swap out the rears.

hmm I’ll have to see, if 295’s are better I’ll go with them

KAMG 02-19-2019 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by MercMiki (Post 7684176)
KAMG do you have those ET's?
Is the rear tire rubbing on the inner or outer side?
Have you lowered the car a lot, still on original air suspension?
Asking bcoz I'm gonna use C218 19" wheels with the following specs on my E55 and trying to decide whether to get 5m/10mm, 7mm/12mm or even 10mm/15mm spacers to avoid rubbing if somehow possible...

A2184011702 9.5 J x 19 ET48 + 285/30
A2184011602 8.5 J x 19 ET34.5 + 255/35

Yes my CLS55 wheels are ET 25 and 28. Lowered on links, pretty sure original struts (car only has 87k miles). They rub on the outside. Pictures are of the car in S2. The W218 CLS wheels may need spacers to clear the inner side as they have higher offsets than the stock E55 wheels. W219 CLS wheels just bolt on with no spacers needed
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...fe0d1e0198.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f0b75f672e.jpg

mondo 02-19-2019 02:11 AM

good info guys, thanks.

i've actually swapped my aftermarket rims for a set of 18" AMG IV style twin 6 spokes from a W207 Coupe since starting this thread. planning on finding some nice 19" rims to replace them with in time.

AMG__POWER 02-19-2019 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by KAMG (Post 7685074)
Yes my CLS55 wheels are ET 25 and 28. Lowered on links, pretty sure original struts (car only has 87k miles). They rub on the outside. Pictures are of the car in S2. The W218 CLS wheels may need spacers to clear the inner side as they have higher offsets than the stock E55 wheels. W219 CLS wheels just bolt on with no spacers needed
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...fe0d1e0198.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f0b75f672e.jpg

I don’t think the 218’s came with these wheels

Yuille36 02-19-2019 01:56 PM

These wheels are timeless and look great on either a E55 or E63. And I like that the rears are concave :y

AMG__POWER 02-19-2019 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Yuille36 (Post 7685532)
These wheels are timeless and look great on either a E55 or E63. And I like that the rears are concave :y

Defo, In some ways I like them more than my 65 wheels

KAMG 02-19-2019 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by AMG__POWER (Post 7685130)

I don’t think the 218’s came with these wheels

No the 5 spokes came on the 219 CLS55. MercMiki asked if I had the 25 and 28 offsets (from the CLS55 wheels) and I said I do, and that's what's on my car now. Then he said he was trying to fit 218 CLS wheels which had higher offset than stock E55 wheels which is why I said you may need spacers to clear the inside. Hopefully that made sense lol

AMG__POWER 02-19-2019 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by KAMG (Post 7685701)
No the 5 spokes came on the 219 CLS55. MercMiki asked if I had the 25 and 28 offsets (from the CLS55 wheels) and I said I do, and that's what's on my car now. Then he said he was trying to fit 218 CLS wheels which had higher offset than stock E55 wheels which is why I said you may need spacers to clear the inside. Hopefully that made sense lol

oh that makes sense hahah my bad mis understanding

MercMiki 02-20-2019 07:56 AM

Thanks for all your comments and pics guys, much appreciated.
I think I will get 5mm spacers for the front and 10mm for the rear.
I came to this conclusion after some calculations comparing the CLS wheels to the stock 18" wheel offsets.

W218 CLS wheels, with the following specs:
A2184011702 9.5 J x 19 ET48 + 285/30 tire
A2184011602 8.5 J x 19 ET34.5 + 255/35 tire

Inner Clearance: the inside of the wheel to the strut housing
Outer Position: position of the outside edge of the wheel

REAR
Inner Outer
-15mm -3mm
...with a 10mm spacer...
-5mm +7mm
...and my rear tire is 20mm wider than stock, so adding 10mm per side...
-15mm +17mm

FRONT
Inner Outer
-10mm +2mm
...so with 5mm spacers it will be...
Inner Outer
-5mm +7mm
...my front tire is 10mm wider than stock, so 5mm wider each side...
Inner Outer
-10mm +12mm

W219 CLS wheels, specs copied from hayseed's post
A2194011202 9.5 J X 18 H2 ET28
A2194011102 8.5 J X 18 H2 ET25

REAR
Inner Outer
+5mm +17mm
...KAMG wrote he has 275's in the rear, so adding 5mm per side...
0mm +22mm

FRONT
Inner Outer
-1mm +11mm

So 5mm/10mm spacers are pretty much optimal when trying to keep the wheel position as close to stock as possible with these W218 wheels.
Based on these very scientific calculations lol I might have a generous 5mm extra in the rear/outside compared to KAMG who wrote hi has some rub there. I'm not gonna lower my car as much as he has, so it might be ok for me like this.
It's gonna be tight on the inside, though, so fingers crossed...

MercMiki 02-20-2019 11:13 AM

Any suggestions where to get decent spacers and longer bolts, preferably as a kit from the same dealer.... :nix:

bierry 02-21-2019 08:51 AM

Front hubs are tapered
 

Originally Posted by MercMiki (Post 7686266)
Thanks for all your comments and pics guys, much appreciated.
I think I will get 5mm spacers for the front and 10mm for the rear.
I came to this conclusion after some calculations comparing the CLS wheels to the stock 18" wheel offsets.

W218 CLS wheels, with the following specs:
A2184011702 9.5 J x 19 ET48 + 285/30 tire
A2184011602 8.5 J x 19 ET34.5 + 255/35 tire

Inner Clearance: the inside of the wheel to the strut housing
Outer Position: position of the outside edge of the wheel

REAR
Inner Outer
-15mm -3mm
...with a 10mm spacer...
-5mm +7mm
...and my rear tire is 20mm wider than stock, so adding 10mm per side...
-15mm +17mm

FRONT
Inner Outer
-10mm +2mm
...so with 5mm spacers it will be...
Inner Outer
-5mm +7mm
...my front tire is 10mm wider than stock, so 5mm wider each side...
Inner Outer
-10mm +12mm

W219 CLS wheels, specs copied from hayseed's post
A2194011202 9.5 J X 18 H2 ET28
A2194011102 8.5 J X 18 H2 ET25

REAR
Inner Outer
+5mm +17mm
...KAMG wrote he has 275's in the rear, so adding 5mm per side...
0mm +22mm

FRONT
Inner Outer
-1mm +11mm

So 5mm/10mm spacers are pretty much optimal when trying to keep the wheel position as close to stock as possible with these W218 wheels.
Based on these very scientific calculations lol I might have a generous 5mm extra in the rear/outside compared to KAMG who wrote hi has some rub there. I'm not gonna lower my car as much as he has, so it might be ok for me like this.
It's gonna be tight on the inside, though, so fingers crossed...

The front hubs of the W211 (at least my ‘06 E55) are tapered and NOT 66.56 mm diameter throughout its length. It is only 66.56 mm at the first part (innermost ~3 or 4 mm) of the hub then tapers to less than 60mm diameter for the remaining length of the hub.

I tried 5mm spacers myself and it covered enough of the hub’s first portion that by the time even my stock 66.56mm bore wheel went on, it only contacted the smaller portion of the hub, and was no longer a hub centric fit and there was play. It did introduce vibrations to the steering despite theoretically the lug nuts with their ball seats should center the wheel when torqued. Vibrations eliminated as soon as I removed the spacer and wheel resumed contact with the full diameter of the hub.

MercMiki 02-21-2019 10:34 AM

Hmm, interesting point.
I would o course prefer not having to use spacers at all, but in the rear I have to, otherwise they will def rub on the inside. Maybe I give it a try without spacers in front first, to see if it works. 5mm spacers aren't that thick anyway.


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