W211 E63 Differential
I though W211 E63 cars have only 1 differential in the rear but when I booked an appointment for service, the indy shop asked me which one that I need serviced, front or rear. So do our cars have 1 or 2 differential?
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One, like all two wheel drive cars. Either the indy is thinking you have a newer awd E63 or they're about to be out of business...
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How often do you change the differential fluid? My car has a lot of road noise, my tires are in pretty good shape and I have them balanced but the noise are still there. I can feel it from the steering wheel. Will changing differential fluid help?
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Your rear diff fluid should be changed every 4 years, same as the tranny fluid, and engine coolant. If you feel vibration in the steering wheel, it could be a number of things including out of round tires, or the tires are cupped, bad rotors, engine or tranny mounts, bad flex coupler. A huge number of things. Detecting which one, will take some diagnosing.
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I hear the noise and feel the vibration when the car rolling at low speed without applying the brake. The tire shop said my tire wear was normal. Tranny fluid and engine coolant were changed at regular interval service. I missed the differential service though.
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Originally Posted by dustinN
(Post 7738672)
I hear the noise and feel the vibration when the car rolling at low speed without applying the brake. The tire shop said my tire wear was normal. Tranny fluid and engine coolant were changed at regular interval service. I missed the differential service though.
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It could be low on fluid. I will start with this, it need new fluid anyways. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Yuille36
(Post 7738654)
Your rear diff fluid should be changed every 4 years, same as the tranny fluid, and engine coolant.
Originally Posted by Yuille36
(Post 7738654)
If you feel vibration in the steering wheel, it could be a number of things including out of round tires, or the tires are cupped, bad rotors, engine or tranny mounts, bad flex coupler. A huge number of things. Detecting which one, will take some diagnosing.
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Originally Posted by maxusa
(Post 7741146)
This is a good general advice, but I would encourage one to seek answers in the original maintenance booklet. For example, the W211 E63 booklet on p.78 states to replace coolant at 150,000 miles or 15 years.
This is a very good summary. Once my E63 developed changing pitch of highway noise with changing speed. It turned out to be cupped front tires (uneven wear). To correct the problem, I got new tires, and then trued wheels and performed alignment to address the root cause. Hope this helps. |
Originally Posted by maxusa
(Post 7741146)
For example, the W211 E63 booklet on p.78 states to replace coolant at 150,000 miles or 15 years.
For some brands, 15 years is the life of the car. I looked at my owners manual, and there isn't anything discussing 15 years or 150,000 between changing engine coolant. After giving it further thought, this information would be in a service manual not owners manual anyway. I really don't know what manual you were looking at, but it's isn't in any Mercedes Benz manual. :smash: |
Mercedes Maintenance Booklet
Originally Posted by Yuille36
(Post 7741616)
...I really don't know what manual you were looking at, but it's isn't in any Mercedes Benz manual.
https://www.mbusa.com/vcm/MB/Digital...ce-Booklet.pdf One can search the PDF document for 'coolant' to see all references to it. Pay attention to the maintenance intervals, activities, and class of vehicle. There is a lot of checking of coolant level. Engine M275 (6.0L V12) requires frequent changes, but our engine does not until 150,000 miles or 15 years as listed on p.78. Hope this helps. |
Originally Posted by maxusa
(Post 7742221)
Mercedes-Benz USA provides manuals with vehicles and on their website. For MY09, the maintenance booklet in PDF format can be downloaded here:
https://www.mbusa.com/vcm/MB/Digital...ce-Booklet.pdf One can search the PDF document for 'coolant' to see all references to it. Pay attention to the maintenance intervals, activities, and class of vehicle. There is a lot of checking of coolant level. Engine M275 (6.0L V12) requires frequent changes, but our engine does not until 150,000 miles or 15 years as listed on p.78. Hope this helps. |
It is your vehicle and your preference/choice/expense. One may justify changing fluids daily. I have no problem with it. It is a good general practice to include a short disclaimer about your opinion/preference to not be confused with the authoritative guidance. By the way, the same maintenance booklet states transmission oil and filter change at 40,000 miles or 4 years; 80,000 miles or 8 years; 120,000 miles or 12 years, etc.
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I will just say this, if one was to follow this guidance to the letter, I could see the dealership making a killing off of them. My good friend of 15 years is a Certified AMG Technician and Shop Foreman at my local Mercedes Benz Dealership.
And I ran that by him, he said that you would be a fool to follow that recommendation. His recommendation is to change your Engine Oil every year, Brake Fluid every 2 yrs, Engine Coolant, Transmission Fluid and Rear Differential every 4 yrs. And that is the guidance that I have followed, since my very first Mercedes Benz purchase. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions on this matter, and are free to do whatever they desire. Although his opinion may differ from Mercedes recommendations, he hasn't been wrong thus far, on the numerous questions and issues I've ran passed him. |
Originally Posted by Yuille36
(Post 7742383)
If one was to follow this guidance to the letter, I could see the dealership making a killing off of them.
Originally Posted by Yuille36
(Post 7742383)
My good friend of 15 years is a Certified AMG Technician and Shop Foreman at my local Mercedes Benz Dealership. And I ran that by him, he said that you would be a fool to follow that recommendation. His recommendation is to change your Engine Oil every year, Brake Fluid every 2 yrs, Engine Coolant, Transmission Fluid and Rear Differential every 4 yrs.
Originally Posted by Yuille36
(Post 7742383)
And that is the guidance that I have followed, since my very first Mercedes Benz purchase.
Originally Posted by Yuille36
(Post 7742383)
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions on this matter, and are free to do whatever they desire.
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I am pretty sure differential fluid was originally included in the sealed for life thing along with the transmission. I asked my dealer to change it for me. They said they had never done it before on an E55. I will do it myself sometime, probably every 40,000 miles. Luckily a lot of us E55 guys have new coolant from upgrading the heat exchanger and replacing intercooler pumps. I guess anyone with original head bolts should be changing coolant every couple of years with the E63.
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Originally Posted by tw2
(Post 7742850)
I am pretty sure differential fluid was originally included in the sealed for life thing along with the transmission. I asked my dealer to change it for me. They said they had never done it before on an E55. I will do it myself sometime, probably every 40,000 miles. Luckily a lot of us E55 guys have new coolant from upgrading the heat exchanger and replacing intercooler pumps. I guess anyone with original head bolts should be changing coolant every couple of years with the E63.
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