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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 08:08 AM
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Moscow Supercharge Experience

I ordered some headers from Moscow Supercharge back in September and have yet to receive them.

Every time I message them they keep telling me I'll be getting them soon and give me no date.

At this point I'm extremely frustrated and I really do regret going this route. I should have just paid a few hundred dollars more and went with MBH.

Anyone else have a similar experience or dealt with them?

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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 09:59 AM
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Sad. They're the only people out there making w202 m113 headers.
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 01:25 PM
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I bought a pulley from them. It made it to us customs then sat for months. I emailed them and eBay and they did express another one. Ironically the other one showed up a week later and I sent it back. They communicated with me. It's defiantly a slow process so other should prepare for that. Good luck
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 01:40 PM
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They make really nice shorty headers, large tubes and slip flange. Was looking into a set but the distance concerns me.
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SICAMG
They make really nice shorty headers, large tubes and slip flange. Was looking into a set but the distance concerns me.
I would avoid them if i had to do it all over again. The price for handmade headers is very attractive option but I've basically been ignored and get the run around everytime I ask when I will be getting my headers. it was suppose to be a 4-8 week wait time but it's been 4 months and counting. I'm at the point where I'm probably just going to file a claim with PayPal and see what happens.
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 09:30 AM
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OK thanks good to know. Will find a custom header shop in the US.
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Old Jan 13, 2022 | 05:09 PM
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Just got a update I reached out to them this past week and finally heard back from them today. They finally shipped my headers they provided a tracking number and I checked and looks like the package was already picked up by DHL. they are estimated to be delivered by next week, I'll update when I receive them.
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Old Jan 13, 2022 | 08:30 PM
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Please let us know how the headers turn out. I still want to invest in some headers for my w202 one day because the stock headers/exhaust are so anemic and weak.
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Old Feb 5, 2022 | 04:25 AM
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so I received the headers on Wed Jan 19th one day earlier than expected they were packaged very good and secured. They are some very nice quality headers welds are all very nice. Definitely impressed for the money.

A drawback is they don't have any 02 bungs so I will have to get some welded in. They do include some flanges, gaskets and bolts. I will probably not be using them though as I will have to get the mid section and xpipe fabricated so I might as well go vband.

Only problem I've been having is finding a fabricator in socal that want to take this little project on. it seems as soon as I say mercedes nobody wants to touch it.

In the end If I had to do it all over again I would not go this route, I should have gone the mbh route. If you don't mind waiting almost 6 months and sometimes being ignored then they might be worth it to you.

If you want to see some pictures of them you can check them out on my IG: Merce55_

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Old Feb 5, 2022 | 12:04 PM
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Waiting to hear back on time frame for a set of headers as well. They are the only one that makes a "full" shorty header for the N/A E55 and than I can weld in the factory cats on my M113K.
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Old Feb 6, 2022 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SICAMG
Waiting to hear back on time frame for a set of headers as well. They are the only one that makes a "full" shorty header for the N/A E55 and than I can weld in the factory cats on my M113K.
Is there any benefit from fitting a shorty header ?
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Old Feb 6, 2022 | 06:42 PM
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For me ...yes. Long tubes are a pain to work around when needed and they really need to be run with no cats for best flow and horsepower but the stench bugs me to no end...been down that road many times.. But emission testing is the big one for me and I don't need the headache.

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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SICAMG
For me ...yes. Long tubes are a pain to work around when needed and they really need to be run with no cats for best flow and horsepower but the stench bugs me to no end...been down that road many times.. But emission testing is the big one for me and I don't need the headache.
I think the question here is "do shorty headers provide any benefits over the flow of stock headers"

I have a w202 C43 and the only headers I can find are shorty on Amazon. They look like they're barely better than OEM so I haven't bothered.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 09:14 PM
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Then I would say yes. The factory manifolds are crazy small and shorty's will open up the exhaust flow for sure. But the real bottle neck after the header is the small down pipe to the cats.
Just an FYI for what i did was Install a set of PLM shorty headers, cut the 1.9" ball flange off and installed a 2.5" 3 bolt flange. Then cut off the 2" down pipes and installed 2.5" pipes. Increased the flow big time and still stayed legal.

Remix Moscow told me 25-35 days door to door. I guess I will just order and expect a long delay along with everything else these days.
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Old Feb 25, 2022 | 04:15 AM
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So I finally got the headers installed and let me tell you fitment was perfect! from all the threads I read about installing longtubes and people complaining how it sucked etc I thought it was actually pretty easy. I did the install by myself on jack stands and took me about 3hrs the mvp tool I used that made things super easy was the 10mm flex head ratcheting wrench. I'm getting the mid section and xpipe fabricated this week and then I will be able to actually drive it.
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Old Feb 25, 2022 | 07:57 AM
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Glad you got them and they fit well.
Now that the war has started I guess I will not be ordering from them LOL
I will never see them LOL
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Old Feb 25, 2022 | 03:48 PM
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I was thinking the same thing I'm lucky in that aspect got them just in time before this whole mess unfolded.
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Old Feb 25, 2022 | 05:10 PM
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And what a mess it is for sure !!
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Originally Posted by Sulaco
I think the question here is "do shorty headers provide any benefits over the flow of stock headers"

I have a w202 C43 and the only headers I can find are shorty on Amazon. They look like they're barely better than OEM so I haven't bothered.
I could be wrong but I think the Kleemann headers were the same for the W208 CLK55 and the W202 C43. Moscow Supercharge does show W208 headers that I think are a clone of Blackbenzz's custom made CLK headers. It might be worth asking them if they fit C43. The old style Kleemann tri-y (shorty? midlength?) headers picked up around 20 wheel HP on my E430.
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Old Feb 26, 2022 | 12:09 PM
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I could be wrong but I think the Kleemann headers were the same for the W208 CLK55 and the W202 C43. Moscow Supercharge does show W208 headers that I think are a clone of Blackbenzz's custom made CLK headers. It might be worth asking them if they fit C43. The old style Kleemann tri-y (shorty? midlength?) headers picked up around 20 wheel HP on my E430.
Yes, w208 are the same fit, as the w208 chassis was just a modified w202 chassis. From the firewall forward they are identical layout minus the clip.

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Top picture shows the stock headers. The bottom pic is from the mid length headers I've got on my E55. You can see the difference in diameter on the header exit. I installed them 1.5 years ago on my stock E55 with stock ECU mapping and saw a my 100-200 kph times go down to 8.3s from 9.3s stock. Currently I have no primary cats, but I'm trying to get them welded into the exhaust system. It looks very tight, but it might fit.
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Old Mar 8, 2022 | 10:52 PM
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so I got the Headers installed had to get vbands and 02 bungs welded in as I had mentioned before, I finally got around to having the mid section and xpipe fabricated, im still running the stock mufflers it is very quiet on idle and driving around they don't get loud until I get on it. Overall im happy with everything but still think I should have just gone the mbh route to save time. Plus now that we have the conflict with Russia I don't see how people who placed orders will get their parts or money back.


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Just an update Last night I made a trip to my local track here in Los Angeles it is a 1/8 mile track and temp was in the low 70s. I wanted to see how much faster the car got with the headers. My best Run of the night was a 7.68 @ 91.8mph this was just on the Moscow Supercharge Headers and 3' mid pipes & xpipe to factory mufflers.

my previous best time when I was 100% stock was 7.94 @89mph All runs have been on the same hankook v12 evo 2 tires.

Pretty happy with the results
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Originally Posted by remix405
Just an update Last night I made a trip to my local track here in Los Angeles it is a 1/8 mile track and temp was in the low 70s. I wanted to see how much faster the car got with the headers. My best Run of the night was a 7.68 @ 91.8mph this was just on the Moscow Supercharge Headers and 3' mid pipes & xpipe to factory mufflers.

my previous best time when I was 100% stock was 7.94 @89mph All runs have been on the same hankook v12 evo 2 tires.

Pretty happy with the results
what other mods do you have ?
That's a significant gain from the headers.
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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 11:39 PM
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what other mods do you have ?
That's a significant gain from the headers.
No other power mods just moscow headers 3 inch mid pipe and xpipe to factory mufflers

I do have the upgraded bosch pump and UPD XL heat exchanger but those don't add any power just keep things cool.
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