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Hello all, I finally got my hand on my dream car, 2005 W211 AMG in white with black interior. So the car has Distronic and I wanted to add a secondary heat exchanger, all the company that offers it say for car without Distronic, my question is…is it because of clearance issues? Can the Distronic bracket be modified to fit? If not what other options do I have? Thanks
Ok thanks for the info, I had a feeling it had something to do with limited space based on me not seeing anyone having both Distronic and front heat exchanger. I would look into the killer chille as I not familiar with it. I’m glad I didn’t buy the secondary exchanger , because it was on sale, and I was about to pull the trigger. Oh…and your car is beautiful!! Thanks
Hello all, I finally got my hand on my dream car, 2005 W211 AMG in white with black interior. So the car has Distronic and I wanted to add a secondary heat exchanger, all the company that offers it say for car without Distronic, my question is…is it because of clearance issues? Can the Distronic bracket be modified to fit? If not what other options do I have? Thanks
The issue I think you are hearing about distronic is that some of the secondary H/E replaces the bracket that is part of the hood latching and mounting of the distronic. In addition to the Killer Chiller approach, there are ways and options for adding additional H/E capacity in the front of the car. You can replace the stock H/E with a larger capacity unit. Add an additioanl 'plate' style H/E in front of the A/C condenser without changing the distronic bracket and also add an additional H/E in front of the front wheel wells under the headlights. A thorough search of the site will give you lots of ideas as to your options. Here is my write up of increasing the H/E capacity: https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...des-cls55.html
The issue I think you are hearing about distronic is that some of the secondary H/E replaces the bracket that is part of the hood latching and mounting of the distronic. In addition to the Killer Chiller approach, there are ways and options for adding additional H/E capacity in the front of the car. You can replace the stock H/E with a larger capacity unit. Add an additioanl 'plate' style H/E in front of the A/C condenser without changing the distronic bracket and also add an additional H/E in front of the front wheel wells under the headlights. A thorough search of the site will give you lots of ideas as to your options. Here is my write up of increasing the H/E capacity: https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...des-cls55.html
I will look into this option also, I looked into the killer chiller and I’m not crazy about having to cut into the factory AC lines. Plus it’s a much more expensive option. Have to play with a couple of different options
All depends on your (power) plans with the car if you ask me.
To be honest …not looking for too much. So far I have ordered the lower heat exchanger to replace the factory unit, other than that headers, next step down size pulley and a Race IQ engine and transmission tune. I might attempt to replicate the Distronic bracket to see if I can solve the clearance issue. I enjoy problem solving, just don’t know if it’s worth the hassle. The plan’s was to do the H/E with the under the hood tank
Ah sounds similar with my plans. I just replaced the lower heat exchanger with a slightly bigger one. Also make sure you have the Bosch 010 pump or use the better Pierburg pump (you also need the electrical plug and rewire it).
My plans:
- Shorty headers (I have yearly MOT which require catalysts)
- 88mm pulley (max 84mm)
- 80mm throttle body
- Tune
For the rest keep it well maintained. I created a video when mounting the new intercooler, should be very similar with E55. Also look at my build thread, as I like to document everything haha. As you might know, the CLS55 is very similar with the E55 > https://mbworld.org/forums/c219/8443...ld-thread.html
Ah sounds similar with my plans. I just replaced the lower heat exchanger with a slightly bigger one. Also make sure you have the Bosch 010 pump or use the better Pierburg pump (you also need the electrical plug and rewire it).
My plans:
- Shorty headers (I have yearly MOT which require catalysts)
- 88mm pulley (max 84mm)
- 80mm throttle body
- Tune
For the rest keep it well maintained. I created a video when mounting the new intercooler, should be very similar with E55. Also look at my build thread, as I like to document everything haha. As you might know, the CLS55 is very similar with the E55 > https://mbworld.org/forums/c219/8443...ld-thread.html
I purchased the PLM XL H/E (it was on sale) It’s it coming with a Johnson Pump CM30 with wire harness, I’m hoping the pump is a good one. I’m doing the long tube headers and I’m going to have them weld on some high flow cats. I have MOT also and I’ve noticed recently that if the car look modified they put a mirror underneath to see if the cats are present.
To be honest …not looking for too much. So far I have ordered the lower heat exchanger to replace the factory unit, other than that headers, next step down size pulley and a Race IQ engine and transmission tune. I might attempt to replicate the Distronic bracket to see if I can solve the clearance issue. I enjoy problem solving, just don’t know if it’s worth the hassle. The plan’s was to do the H/E with the under the hood tank
May I suggest instead of the Race IQ trans tune you look into to https://mkultraelectronics.com/ The developer of the tune is a member here under @zerocat101 and you can find lots of raving comments about the tune and the support provided.
I purchased the PLM XL H/E (it was on sale) It’s it coming with a Johnson Pump CM30 with wire harness, I’m hoping the pump is a good one. I’m doing the long tube headers and I’m going to have them weld on some high flow cats. I have MOT also and I’ve noticed recently that if the car look modified they put a mirror underneath to see if the cats are present.
In the Netherlands, for 2005 and older, they analyze your exhaust gases for NOx, which needs to be under a certain threshold
May I suggest instead of the Race IQ trans tune you look into to https://mkultraelectronics.com/ The developer of the tune is a member here under @zerocat101 and you can find lots of raving comments about the tune and the support provided.
I will most definitely take a look at it. Thanks for the tip.
In the Netherlands, for 2005 and older, they analyze your exhaust gases for NOx, which needs to be under a certain threshold
I live in Georgia, and when I take my wife’s Nissan rogue, I’m out of there in about two minutes, but when I take any of my cars, it takes a whole lot longer. It’s almost like if they’re looking for some reason to fail the car, I have also tried different testing facilities with the similar results
If all your plans are is to do an upper pulley and tune, you do not need a secondary. Long tubes will help you greatly with cooling down as well - that's a cooling mod in and of itself!
Quite frankly, unless you're trying to break records or have big power goals, your typical run of the mill long tubes and upper pulley cars do not need much to run strong and consistent. A good aftermarket exchanger and IC pump is more than adequate. The heatsoak thing is a bit exaggerated about these cars, it is not that terrible. I've owned a few now with various mods and I live in a state with 100+ weather in the summer and given with blown V8s , yes, you lose some grunt but it is nothing drastic. You're not tracking your car, are you?
If all your plans are is to do an upper pulley and tune, you do not need a secondary. Long tubes will help you greatly with cooling down as well - that's a cooling mod in and of itself!
Quite frankly, unless you're trying to break records or have big power goals, your typical run of the mill long tubes and upper pulley cars do not need much to run strong and consistent. A good aftermarket exchanger and IC pump is more than adequate. The heatsoak thing is a bit exaggerated about these cars, it is not that terrible. I've owned a few now with various mods and I live in a state with 100+ weather in the summer and given with blown V8s , yes, you lose some grunt but it is nothing drastic. You're not tracking your car, are you?
You'll be fine, OP ... best of luck
LOL…..Only track time this car we’ll see is on the sidelines. Thanks for the great info.
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