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Old Oct 20, 2012 | 11:01 AM
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2014 E63 to get 550hp and 4matic

http://www.worldcarfans.com/112101949599/2014-mercedes-e63-amg-to-get-550-hp-and-4matic

Sources have informed WCF that the upcoming 2014 Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG is going to come as standard with 4MATIC all-wheel drive and will develop 550 HP (405 kW) without the optional Performance Package. It will be able to perform the 0-60 mph (0-97 km/h) sprint in 3.4 seconds. The current E63 AMG with its rear-wheel drive configuration produces 525 HP (386 kW) and accelerates from zero to 62 mph (100 km/h) in 4.3 seconds.
As far as styling is concerned, AMG is going for a very aggressive appearance in an effort to shake the stigma of a glorified E-Class. The front and rear bumpers, headlights and the side skirts will receive some alterations, with the front bumper resembling the Ferrari F430's bumper with big rounded air intakes. The headlights will be a one-piece unit with LEDs and bi-xenon, while the side skirts are completely different and more pronounced, featuring a trim piece that runs along the car’s length.
The 2014 E63 AMG is scheduled to go into production in Q3 2013.
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Old Oct 20, 2012 | 11:03 AM
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Old Oct 20, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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So lets beat a dead horse with a stick, damn search before you start thread its been talked about numerous times...
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Old Oct 20, 2012 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mjthind
So lets beat a dead horse with a stick, damn search before you start thread its been talked about numerous times...
???

i never saw the link before, so i will say thank you to the OP.
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Old Oct 20, 2012 | 04:39 PM
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My point proved...
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...spy-shots.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...mg-4matic.html
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Old Oct 20, 2012 | 04:49 PM
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Old Oct 20, 2012 | 11:15 PM
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so going from rwd to 4 wd takes a second of o-60, ????

DCT also?
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 12:06 AM
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Car and Driver has the E63 Biturbo (standard version) doing 0-60 in 3.8 (compared to M5 and S6), so with AWD, and some extra hp/torque, 0-60 in 3.4 sounds like a reasonable improvement.

Also, the 4.3 is 0-62mph, so based on these exact numbers, the comparable 0-60 would be 4.1


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so going from rwd to 4 wd takes a second of o-60, ????

DCT also?
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 01:02 AM
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I never understood why so many damn people focus and base their entire car buying experience on a 0-60 time. It's out of this world.

Because it matters so much that you're doing 60mph sprints in under 4 seconds on a daily basis vs. the gobs of M5s on the road... Blows my mind.


C&D's 3.8 second 0-60mph was under perfect conditions, perfect tires, perfect launch, and the best of the probably 10+ tries they did to get that.
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 12:47 PM
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So lets beat a dead horse with a stick, damn search before you start thread its been talked about numerous times...
Take it easy, dude. I've read the other threads/posts, but this one is unique in the 4matic angle. Other than its questionable source, i thought this added to the discussion.
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 12:49 PM
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I never understood why so many damn people focus and base their entire car buying experience on a 0-60 time. It's out of this world.

Because it matters so much that you're doing 60mph sprints in under 4 seconds on a daily basis vs. the gobs of M5s on the road... Blows my mind.


C&D's 3.8 second 0-60mph was under perfect conditions, perfect tires, perfect launch, and the best of the probably 10+ tries they did to get that.
Agree .... its silly when you start getting into splitting hairs at the 4 second mark. I mean, if you're not dragging or tracking, its kinda pointless. Besides, if you really want to measure how quick a car is, 1/4 mile time/speed is the way to go.
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by E-Ridium 63
Agree .... its silly when you start getting into splitting hairs at the 4 second mark. I mean, if you're not dragging or tracking, its kinda pointless. Besides, if you really want to measure how quick a car is, 1/4 mile time/speed is the way to go.
it will improve teh 1/4 mile time too i would think.

then when guys slap the tune on, 700 hp AWD E63!, holy crap, that thing will be low 11's maybe even high 10's
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 02:11 PM
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I don't know about the 4Matic system very well. IMHO I believe Audi's Quattro, Subaru's AWD, and Nissan's ATTESA-ETS Pro to be the best AWD systems on the market at this time. But of course having 4Matic is better than nothing.
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 02:35 PM
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it will improve teh 1/4 mile time too i would think.
Maybe, maybe not. You can tune a car to have more twist at the bottom but it may come at a cost of having no ***** in the mid or top. Gearing plays a bigger role in 1/4 times/speed and in 0-60 race you're only through ~ 1.5 gears.
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Be interesting to see. AWD has been a long time coming on the high HP AMGs. It would reduce mileage some, so not sure how they will skirt those tough emission standards Greenbama has coming soon.
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dakrisht
I never understood why so many damn people focus and base their entire car buying experience on a 0-60 time. It's out of this world.

Because it matters so much that you're doing 60mph sprints in under 4 seconds on a daily basis vs. the gobs of M5s on the road... Blows my mind.


C&D's 3.8 second 0-60mph was under perfect conditions, perfect tires, perfect launch, and the best of the probably 10+ tries they did to get that.

agree... rarely if ever do I get to line up in "safe" environment for a spirited 0-60 dig. I like the 60-130 measurement much better even if we dont get all the way up to 130 at times.

AWD does make launching the car foolproof for one's own satisfaction. I still think AMG is missing the boat by not having DCT. I had my first DCT's with the GTR and E92 M3 in 2009--- we are talking about 5 years and counting with the SLS having the only DCT (any others in the AMG fam?)
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dakrisht
I never understood why so many damn people focus and base their entire car buying experience on a 0-60 time.
i think you're missing the more basic point to that number. you're right. nobody actually cares about the amount of time it takes to reach 60mph, but it works as assigning a numerical value to what it might feel like (seat of pants) to drive a particular vehicle. it's simply an apples-2-apples comparo of different cars. i have a very real sense of what it feels like to drive a car that can do 0-60 in 4 seconds, or 5, or 6.

doesn't matter what the circumstances are surrounding the test. it's close enough to communicate the information. they could even ditch the 0-60 time and simply assign a number. top-fuel drag car is a 1, and F1 car is a 3, a minivan is a 7??? it's just info.

as for 4Matic. it's probably a good thing, and likely would account for the quicker acceleration times- even if you were to apply it to the current E63 line-up. getting 550hp to stick is the current weakness in the E63. full-throttle always activates traction control now. that's why we need either a really good (100% locking) diff, or 4Matic.
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 05:05 PM
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I still think AMG is missing the boat by not having DCT.
+1. And also LSD as oem. Hopefully AMG will rectify that with future models.
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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+1. And also LSD as oem. Hopefully AMG will rectify that with future models.
Yep and expect 0-60 times to be incredible but quartermile and higher speed runs to come back down to earth and maybe slower than the 550hp rwd variant of today...
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 09:28 PM
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am I the only one that dreads the thought of the E63 being a 4matic? I mean there is something about a big V8 high horsepower RWD car that I just enjoy, I know the AWD will solve the traction problems but power sliding a RWD car that has just the right amount of over steer through the turns with a little counter steering is just to much fun for me to give up, I didn't buy the car because I wanted the fastest 0-60, I bought the car cause it makes my drive to work and back home again that much more fun, I still enjoy the occasional empty parking lot doughnuts and I feel like 4matic will take away most of this fun, it makes me a better driver and I respect the car more, I've driven a number of modded twin turbo P cars and they were brutally fast in straight line acceleration but when I got the chance to drive a GT2 I instantly knew which one I would rather have
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 11:51 PM
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I think some of the purists will be upset with AWD, but I think the awd will make the car even more fun to drive in all weather conditions. I like to get on the gas and power is not as usable even on dry roads. I feel stability control kicks in too much.

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am I the only one that dreads the thought of the E63 being a 4matic? I mean there is something about a big V8 high horsepower RWD car that I just enjoy, I know the AWD will solve the traction problems but power sliding a RWD car that has just the right amount of over steer through the turns with a little counter steering is just to much fun for me to give up, I didn't buy the car because I wanted the fastest 0-60, I bought the car cause it makes my drive to work and back home again that much more fun, I still enjoy the occasional empty parking lot doughnuts and I feel like 4matic will take away most of this fun, it makes me a better driver and I respect the car more, I've driven a number of modded twin turbo P cars and they were brutally fast in straight line acceleration but when I got the chance to drive a GT2 I instantly knew which one I would rather have
You're not the only the one. I hate this. I am NOT a fan of AWD. MB has been obsessed lately with AWD.
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I think they would have a better turnout if they made their awd variant of I4 turbo sedan to vs the sti-evo instead of the E class..
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This car will sell like hot cakes in any climate that sees snow.
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Old Nov 23, 2012 | 02:58 PM
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This car will sell like hot cakes in any climate that sees snow.
AI only sold my E55 AMG, because I couldnt get into the garage due to getting stuck in snow, this is what I have been waiting for!!!

A person like me looking for a car with around 500bhp, some kind of boot and min 4 seats with AWD, the only choice was the Panamera Turbo
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