otakki

It's an excellent idea. MB should have the car straight from the factory with coilovers.

67300se5spd

First MB has to admit that a problem exists.....

GDT1

Just to update on my previous post, my car has been returned from the dealership with two new air bellows and there is now no rear sag - the mechanic confirmed that there had indeed been a fault.
If your E class estate W212 sags down over the rear wheels overnight, it is NOT normal. Get it fixed so the compressor does not fail, because if it does you will be unable to drive it to the dealer!

67300se5spd

Congratulations... Your dealer went directly to the bellows and corrected the sagging issue... The OP 's 1st dealer wouldn't do anything and denied that a replacement of parts was necessary. Shameful ! Why is there a double standard ?

His 2nd dealer appears to be changing parts but has started with the air compressor and valve . That didn't stop the sagging so it was later reported that they're ''' FINALLY''' focusing on replacing the bellows....Stay tuned....

Bare in mind how long the OP has been without his car. I couldn't survive without my car for this length of time.....

otakki

MB should compensate the OP appropriately for the time lost with the car in the shop.

Peter210

Hello again,

I just picked up my car. It is all done and FIXED!!!

Helms Bros Mercedes Benz kicked a$$ and got it all done. No BS, no resistance just nice service with daily updates.

Oh yes, the rear air bellows were replaced and that was the culprit.

vdubpower

wow finally.....hopefully people in the future wont have to go thru the BS u and others have, and it will be a quicker fix....heck they should just post a recall and have everyone come in....

post some pics of your classics...

67300se5spd

Glad you got your car back.

tom@kartboy

Looks like my car is sagging overnight. Roughly 1" on the RHS and 3/4-78" on the LHS.
My main concern is whats to keep this from happening again? I might wait till the oil change depending on if it gets worse over time.

12' Wagon with 6500 on the ODO.

Tom

vdubpower

go in and get it checked out....if youve read this thread, and mine, youll see what **** they give u....

67300se5spd

Keep an eye on it and document its frequency... If these bellows are failing then Mercedes will have to look into it and rectify the problem. I just hope that you won't have to wrestle with your service dept like the OP did...

germyko

im in socal and i hear the car release air every time it is parked. i thought this was normal also... i guess i will have it checked out.

sikm3

The occasional "farting" is normal....the issue the others are having is that the car drops in the rear. Almost as if the rear end of the car is sitting on the tires.

Can't wait for mine to fail. Since I'm lowered in the rear, I wonder if the dealer will try and deny warranty repair. At least I have a friendly relationship with my service rep.

otakki

Aside from the error messages that showed up a couple of time, my car's rear end has not dropped...keeping my fingers crossed here.

bonboon

For what it's worth, I had a very pleasant interaction with MB service in Manhattan NY.

Apparently this issue has been escalated in some way on a national level.

From my service advisor:

"We just got approval from technical assistance (our engineering dept at HQ) to replace all of the components in your air suspension due to moisture that was found in the lines. There is a case document from Germany that tells us to replace everything if we find any moisture as it will contaminate the system."

sloanbj

The ABC suspensions are such a total disaster. When will MB wise up and quit using them?

dflamer

This is such a bummer. I have been looking for a nice '11 or '12 E63 because I had not seen any significant systemic issues with them. Well, it looks like this is an issue that is going to impact a lot of cars.

I am hoping that the extended warranties are covering these problems. Otherwise these known defects are just going to be expensive going forward.

I am sorry that there have been problems with the dealers. We really have not had many issues with our C63, but Silver Star AG in Thousand Oaks has been great.

NL007

Does anyone have a copy of the MB bulletin? Also, how much of a drop when parked IS actually normal? I usually hear the air being let out once its parked and i've gotten out of the garage. Is that normal too?
I've attached a picture of my wheel altho it might be hard to see...

Peter210

I think you should first determine if your axle is dropping and if you have an issue with the air suspension to begin with. Park your E63 for a couple of days and measure the height from the wheel opening to the ground. If it's losing air it will be dropping down. Sporadic air release wile you open the doors or after parking is normal.

I have the bulletin available.

NL007

Sent you a pm...

otakki

I'm also sending you a pm for the bulletin. Thanks, Peter 210.

otakki

I took that pdf bulletin with me last week and MB of St. Charles agreed to use it to check it out. Voila, the problem was found one day later and parts replaced the day after that. Now that's fast. Yes, also no BS and no resistance, also with nice daily updates. They told me some kind of "bag" so I think it's probably the air bellows. I'm dropping off the loaner E350 today to pick up my car. I couldn't have done it without your pdf especially with my car being asymptomatic except the twice malfunction warnings this past winter. Thanks again, Peter210.

Peter210

Wonderful! Another E63 is back on the road. ;-)

I am glad I could help.


Peter

otakki

Unfortunately, I hit 2-3 deers on the last leg of errands after picking up the car earlier in the afternoon. And I started a thread in the C63 side asking about MB Certified Collision Centers, where it will be at for at least a month.

So once again my car is out of service...

Peter210

That sucks!!! Where is the damage and how extensive is it??? Finding a MB certified body shop should be relatively easy. Just contact your MB dealer and they will tell you who they are working with. This however will not guarantee proper repair. No matter which place you choose, you will need to go there first and check their work.