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'12 Headlight haze? Anyone else?

Old 02-21-2015, 12:24 AM
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Try turning it off. It shouldn't be there.
Old 02-21-2015, 12:57 AM
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The "problem" that Mercedez fixes is thats there's a V when the lights are off.

Look at the original (#1 in the thread) post with my pictures. The second photo. Thats not OK. The pictures of how the lights are so bright that they show a V in the dark on the lenses? Not all that surprising, in my opinion.
Old 02-21-2015, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Yosheego
Try turning it off. It shouldn't be there.
??? what u mean

yeah with the lights off, i cant see it...but eventually its probably gonna end up like my first, OE set, it will build up haze
Old 02-21-2015, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cnolke
The "problem" that Mercedez fixes is thats there's a V when the lights are off.

Look at the original (#1 in the thread) post with my pictures. The second photo. Thats not OK. The pictures of how the lights are so bright that they show a V in the dark on the lenses? Not all that surprising, in my opinion.
there shouldnt be a v regardless, correct

your pics show when they are so hazed up, as were mine

u got new lights right, look at them with the car lights on at night...any V?
Old 02-21-2015, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
??? what u mean

yeah with the lights off, i cant see it...but eventually its probably gonna end up like my first, OE set, it will build up haze
Right I totally missed it.
Had this problem since 2012 and finally got mine replaced and the V is still there only when the lights are on. Will it come back? probably. I also noticed that my light output is more yellow now, then before. Originally i remember it being more white/blue (on the road and looking directly at the lense). Could be probably a new fix?
Old 02-22-2015, 10:27 PM
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the xenon shouldnt be yellow at alll...wonder whats causing it
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Originally Posted by Yosheego
I also noticed that my light output is more yellow now, then before. Originally i remember it being more white/blue (on the road and looking directly at the lense).
Originally Posted by vdubpower
the xenon shouldnt be yellow at alll...wonder whats causing it
FWIW, new 4300k bulbs are supposed to be yellowish white until they color shift around 100hrs or so and then they will start to turn whiteish blue.

So, totally normal for new bulbs. I had a copy of a MB bulletin re this, when my headlight was replaced five years ago. I'll try and track it down.

Edit : Here is the DTB, from 2009
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Old 02-24-2015, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by starbrite
FWIW, new 4300k bulbs are supposed to be yellowish white until they color shift around 100hrs or so and then they will start to turn whiteish blue.

So, totally normal for new bulbs. I had a copy of a MB bulletin re this, when my headlight was replaced five years ago. I'll try and track it down.

Edit : Here is the DTB, from 2009
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After two months of having my lights replaced. The V only shows up when the lights are on. My old set the V was visible all the time. Could it be the projector lens?
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just a fyi

i was in london for a week and i checked all the e classes i walked by, some have haze some dont...go figure
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
dealer called , parts are in, gonna go in monday...im honestly more nervous about them re aligning the lights and putting the bumper back
I've gotten my lights realigned twice now and they are still pointed way too low compared to how they were originally. They said they had been set up in tourist mode...whatever that means...
I need to find the manual way to aim them higher.
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tourist mode....lol...please tell me that is a joke

mine seem to be fine..i guess
Old 08-21-2015, 01:10 PM
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I have the V haze and took in my car for service today for brakes. I mentioned the V haze to the SA and he claimed he had never seen it before but would look into a fix. He just called me and said that there is a new manufacture service alert on the V haze with a set of cleaning protocol performed by the service engineer. The service engineer said that he's never done it before and doesn't think it will work as it looks like a burn in the glass not a haze that can be cleaned. The SA stated that if it can't be cleaned they will just order me a new light assembly and charge the warranty. So I will wait and see on Monday what the outcome is as that's when they will give me the finally decision......
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Seems you have a decent service manager

Enjoy your new headlights

My brand new ones don't have haze yet but in sure they will as that is the pattern of the beam

So be it
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Originally Posted by ProfessorX
I have the V haze and took in my car for service today for brakes. I mentioned the V haze to the SA and he claimed he had never seen it before but would look into a fix. He just called me and said that there is a new manufacture service alert on the V haze with a set of cleaning protocol performed by the service engineer. The service engineer said that he's never done it before and doesn't think it will work as it looks like a burn in the glass not a haze that can be cleaned. The SA stated that if it can't be cleaned they will just order me a new light assembly and charge the warranty. So I will wait and see on Monday what the outcome is as that's when they will give me the finally decision......
I was thinking about getting this fixed. I was deciding if I should take the car to Mercedes of Chicago or Westmont. If you don't mind me asking, which dealership is working on your car?
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I was thinking about getting this fixed. I was deciding if I should take the car to Mercedes of Chicago or Westmont. If you don't mind me asking, which dealership is working on your car?
I took it to MB Orland Park.... I'm still waiting until Monday to see what their final decision will be before I recommend them. They once replaced my whole exhaust system on my S Class because my check engine light sensor kept going off and they couldn't figure out why; so I'm hopeful they will do the right thing again. I'm getting brakes replaced front and back so I'm spending a lot of money (especially considering I only have $24K miles) so if they don't fix my lights I will be a tad pissed. It's a big dealership and they have about 6 Service advisors so if they take care of me I'll tell you which one to use if you take your care there. They have a bunch of loaners also so you can just drop it off if you live up north.

If they replace light assembly and the haze comes back it really won't bother me after my warranty is done but until then I hope they fix what needs to be repaired.
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^Thanks for the info. I'm pretty certain they will find a way to replace the headlights considering you are spending $$$ on f/r brakes. 24k miles on the car is low. I just hit 30k.
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Guys. Sorry i didn't read through the entire thread and don't know if someone already relate this information so here it is again if someone already did.

The V mark on the headlight lends ( on the inside ) is a quiet recall by Mercedes. What happens is the light bulb burns too hot thus burning the V mark on the lens itself. If those of you wonder why haze is so consistent on both lens, this is why. I have had my old E350 replaced same with the wood trims and also had the E63 replaced FOB. If your local Mercedes dealer tells you they can't replace it FOC ( unless your out of factory warrantee ), then get into touch with MBusa to escalate the sistuation. Good luck.
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update

I've written to MBUSA to get a case started. Going into dealership to see if I can get these changed out of warranty. I looked at the pics I posted here earlier in the thread an my haze has gotten worse.... it's unbearable. Clearly visible during the day. I will push the case of saftey, and mention all the threads and pictures on this topic. Hopefully they will do the right thing and admit to a flaw in the earlier headlight (they have 2 newer revisions) and swap them out.
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I hope they do the right thing and just replace your headlights. I suggest anyone that see's haze to take it to the dealer ASAP before your warranty expires. My dealer replaced mine and told me that if it comes back that they will replace them again but I know some dealers aren't so easy to deal with.
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i drive them all, fast and hard
mine were replaced, i showed my tech these threads

even with new lights you get the V , but no haze yet...im sure it will show up again one day as it did originally

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