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Old 06-18-2015, 11:53 AM
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Ahhh...that makes sense then. You're living the dream - pre-facelift looks but with the TT motor.

FML...680hp........680.......thank you for ruining my day Congrats man
Thank you. If this helps, imange the gas bill and the insurance due to tickets ( knock on wood ). But I do want to note my car has a totally different character then in stock form. Glad the car came with limited slip.

As a child, always wish for a Lambo. Now I have a luxury 4 door sedan that can go head to head with one and win.

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Looks good, now lower it!
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I think you'd enjoy some shadow lights, I have some on my cls
they barely cost a thing; install I had done by an indy shop, so I can't say how it's done.........but they go under the door and shine on the floor

This is novel but cool! Can I get this on ebay for E63. I just looked on ebay and adds were saying cls.

And btw to OP: your car looks effing great Bro! Not a white fan normally, but your car looks great!

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I can beat David to 60ft on stock rubber from a dig with 4matic, then he's got me beat ... But I OWN the first 60ft lolol
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Looks good, now lower it!
Thanks. Got H&R spring and links sitting in the garage, but not sure if that is the best way to go for me.

Did you do the same or did you go another route ?

The way I understand it, my back wheels/tires is current sitting about a finger and a half (1 1/2 fingers ) from the back fenders and the fronts are about 3 fingers from the front fenders and the way I understand the rear airmatics lowers itself after reaching certain speed so if I lower the front with springs and it should sit flush with the fender, but the rear links will be too low especially when it reach that certain speed which then will rub.

Any thoughts or suggestion would be appreciated. Thank you.
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go for ELM if you do
Bro, what is ELM? Any suggestion on my question regarding lowering my car?
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This is novel but cool! Can I get this on ebay for E63. I just looked on ebay and adds were saying cls.

And btw to OP: your car looks effing great Bro! Not a white fan normally, but your car looks great!

Cheers!
Vrodman, here is the link for the AMG light I got for my E63 if your interested:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-Laser-LED-Door-courtesy-Shadow-Projector-Light-For-Benz-w176-A-class-A45-AMG-/301604137111?hash=item463901e897&vxp=mtr
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
I can beat David to 60ft on stock rubber from a dig with 4matic, then he's got me beat ... But I OWN the first 60ft lolol
Bro. No disrespect, but keep in mind the ECU tune elimates ( not completely, but enough to get the jump start needed ) the lag from the green light that stock E63 including my original stock E63 encounters and mine does have the limited slip to balance the power to all 4 wheels.

Have had the opportunity to race a couple of facelift E63s and I do get that jump start off the line.

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Originally Posted by Davidkuo0330
Bro. No disrespect, but keep in mind the ECU tune elimates ( not completely, but enough to get the jump start needed ) the lag from the green light that stock E63 including my original stock E63 encounters and mine does have the limited slip to balance the power to all 4 wheels.

Have had the opportunity to race a couple of facelift E63s and I do get that jump start off the line.
David relax, your car is the best ever... I won't compete.
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David relax, your car is the best ever... I won't compete.
Chill Peter. Been a long day? No one said my car was the best or the faster. Just trying to make an argument.
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Your limited slip does not "balance power to all four wheels" - let's not get people confused with misinformation...
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Originally Posted by Davidkuo0330
Thanks. Got H&R spring and links sitting in the garage, but not sure if that is the best way to go for me.

Did you do the same or did you go another route ?

The way I understand it, my back wheels/tires is current sitting about a finger and a half (1 1/2 fingers ) from the back fenders and the fronts are about 3 fingers from the front fenders and the way I understand the rear airmatics lowers itself after reaching certain speed so if I lower the front with springs and it should sit flush with the fender, but the rear links will be too low especially when it reach that certain speed which then will rub.

Any thoughts or suggestion would be appreciated. Thank you.
I'm fairly sure that this one doesn't do that because it doesn't have air springs on all four corners, ie the rear would be sagged down and probably create more drag on the highway.

The very cool thing it does do is maintain a steady ride height on the rear. Yours will end up having a ride height like mine - you'll fit the springs (and I recommend you do the springs first, then wait and do the rears after a couple of weeks if you can handle the strange look of having the front raked) and notice that the drop is more than 20mm, but it's still very cool. You'll then want to match the rear, which you can do with the links (shorter links == lower car btw - this will come in handy when you do the install). Once you've matched the rear, you'll be like...damn that looks good but what will I do once the wife n kids get into the car - it'll rub!! But no - when the car detects weight/load in the rear, it will raise itself to the new 'default' position of the car. When the rear lightens up, it'll go back down but only as far as you've set it to. I love this feature. you maintain a perfectly level ride height at all times
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Chill Peter. Been a long day? No one said my car was the best or the faster. Just trying to make an argument.
David

Nope, had a great day actually. I was cracking a joke about beating you off the line and tried to imply that with the "lolol" and emoticon and you then went into the "actually, bro, ... I've raced x, y, z... And a diatribe on why I was 'wrong' " I've always appreciated your posts and insight into these beastly machines and I don't see why that has to change.

So I'll end with this, congrats on your car and what you've accomplished with it, be safe and have fun!

Regards

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David

Nope, had a great day actually. I was cracking a joke about beating you off the line and tried to imply that with the "lolol" and emoticon and you then went into the "actually, bro, ... I've raced x, y, z... And a diatribe on why I was 'wrong' " I've always appreciated your posts and insight into these beastly machines and I don't see why that has to change.

So I'll end with this, congrats on your car and what you've accomplished with it, be safe and have fun!

Regards
Hey Peter. It was me that had a bad day yesterday and I apologize for jumping the gun. I too enjoy your posts as they are informative and sometimes critical to me while learning about my AMG. My bad and I too hope we can just leave it at that. Thanks bro.
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Originally Posted by rory breaker
Your limited slip does not "balance power to all four wheels" - let's not get people confused with misinformation...
Would you please care to elaborate why limited slip does not mean the balance of power to all 4 wheels because everyone knows I'm new to AMG and that was what I was told when I asked my sales person who I bought the car from what limited slip means to my car.

Many thanks and am sorry if I misinfomed people.
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Originally Posted by hyperion667
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Hyperion. Do you mean the Renntech or KW ELM? If so what would you recommend ? I wanted to be able to lower or rise my car electronically while in my car and not take it to a shop where a pro has to do it for me, but was told the Renntech or KW doesn't work for my 2012 model. Please kindly cleaify if possible with recommendations. Many thanks.

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I cannot speak directly to the quality or ride comfort; but if I was going to drop my car, I'd go with an electronic device versus cutting springs and what not, then again, I know nothing about lowering cars.....plenty of cats here that do though
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I'm fairly sure that this one doesn't do that because it doesn't have air springs on all four corners, ie the rear would be sagged down and probably create more drag on the highway.

The very cool thing it does do is maintain a steady ride height on the rear. Yours will end up having a ride height like mine - you'll fit the springs (and I recommend you do the springs first, then wait and do the rears after a couple of weeks if you can handle the strange look of having the front raked) and notice that the drop is more than 20mm, but it's still very cool. You'll then want to match the rear, which you can do with the links (shorter links == lower car btw - this will come in handy when you do the install). Once you've matched the rear, you'll be like...damn that looks good but what will I do once the wife n kids get into the car - it'll rub!! But no - when the car detects weight/load in the rear, it will raise itself to the new 'default' position of the car. When the rear lightens up, it'll go back down but only as far as you've set it to. I love this feature. you maintain a perfectly level ride height at all times
Thanks man. So in short, you saying I should install the H&R springs first and see how that looks and ride before installing the links? Would you be so kind to post some photos of your car and close up of your ride height so I can have a better idea what to expect?

Last question. Is it possible to install the springs and links at the same time just ask the shop to adjust the link to its highest possible position and see how that goes and adjust the links as I see fit?

Many thanks.
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I cannot speak directly to the quality or ride comfort; but if I was going to drop my car, I'd go with an electronic device versus cutting springs and what not, then again, I know nothing about lowering cars.....plenty of cats here that do though
Note with many thanks.

Question, is that the Renntech front lip you have on? How easy was the install? I currently have the OEM front lip spliters and ???... Thanks.
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it is, a three piece lip.......install was done at the indy but it was simple, cost me 3800 pls install
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it is, a three piece lip.......install was done at the indy but it was simple, cost me 3800 pls install
3 pieces. So it's not the Renntech front lip. Do you have some photos of it? Thanks man.
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sorry if I was not clear: it is a Renntech 3 piece front lip, I have pix in my album I think, probably none from install though
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sorry if I was not clear: it is a Renntech 3 piece front lip, I have pix in my album I think, probably none from install though
Awesome. Just arrived at Disneyland for a day of fun. I'll be sure to check your album out when I get home. Thanks again.


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