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most of the people that buy ML's arent really tuner types of people... they are people with money that just want the most expensive midsize suv they can get
e63 guys are more tuner minded
plus like others said, ML's are quite a bit heavier so the buyer of that isnt really buying it for street racing lol
most of the people that buy ML's are really tuner types of people... they are people with money that just want the most expensive midsize suv they can get
e63 guys are more tuner minded
plus like others said, ML's are quite a bit heavier so the buyer of that isnt really buying it for street racing lol
i don't think E63 buyers are necessarily buying for street racing either
i don't think E63 buyers are necessarily buying for street racing either
correct me if I'm wrong
there are more e63 drivers that take their car to the strip than ML drivers... check dragtimes... that would give you a rough mathematical ratio of e63 drivers that are willing to engage in tuning/ street racing vs ML drivers that are willing..
i counted 50 e63s on drag times vs 3 ml63s so that would give you a ratio of 16.67 to 1....
soooooooo, e63 guys are 16.67 times more likely to get their car for racing/ going fast
so let say guesstimate 25% of e63 guys buy their car for hard/fast driving, then 1/16.67 x 25% = 1.5% of ML63 guys buy theirs for the same reason.... reason why there isnt as much of a ML presence as you originally asked
there are more e63 drivers that take their car to the strip than ML drivers... check dragtimes... that would give you a rough mathematical ratio of e63 drivers that are willing to engage in tuning/ street racing vs ML drivers that are willing..
i counted 50 e63s on drag times vs 3 ml63s so that would give you a ratio of 16.67 to 1....
soooooooo, e63 guys are 16.67 times more likely to get their car for racing/ going fast
so let say guesstimate 25% of e63 guys buy their car for hard/fast driving, then 1/16.67 x 25% = 1.5% of ML63 guys buy theirs for the same reason.... reason why there isnt as much of a ML presence as you originally asked
kinda makes sense... lol
i'm kindof thinking I could get E63 AWD capabilities at 2012 pricing with the same motor - just in the ML63
i'm kindof thinking I could get E63 AWD capabilities at 2012 pricing with the same motor - just in the ML63
just get a 2014 e63... that's what i did and buy far best car i have ever had.... and the only car i have ever had that felt really fast stock (and i had c63 and e55 and neither felt really fast stock)... of course with tune now it really flies..... turbo upgrades coming after xmas
The few people in my hood that have ml63 or gl63 are women drivers and not saying they can't be as enthusiastic about amg and speed but they just aren't coming on here as much as the guys are to talk shop
S65 is for business, GL63 is for road trips and E63 is a racing ( the bring out the kid in me ). The purpose of my GL63 is that it has more power and luxury than the standard SUV and by no means would I try to race someone in either a sport sedan or SUV. It just wasn't built that way IMO.
I luv my Renntech tuned ML63...with 650 hp I get great performance in a quiet luxurious and sporty daily driver that also performs well in winter ...and when I need to really get it on I take the ZR1...would never trade the ML for a car tho
2018 E63 S (white wagon), 2016 Viper ACR Extreme, 2005 Porsche GT3 Cup race car,2020 GLE
I had 2 ML63's for daily and then went to my 63 Wagon
I loved the ML63's but really love my wagon . Holds as much kids sports gear and race tires as the Ml but kicks butt on the street. Handles and brakes better then any wagon should. Sounds amazing and I get more people loving the car then I can ever imagine.
I luv my Renntech tuned ML63...with 650 hp I get great performance in a quiet luxurious and sporty daily driver that also performs well in winter ...and when I need to really get it on I take the ZR1...would never trade the ML for a car tho
I wonder weight for weight which would win? i.e. put 552 extra pounds in the E63 and comparably weighted drivers...
obviously the E would win in a slalom due to center of gravity - but that straight line...
I think the ml63 has a little less power and produces more drag thanks to its SUV shape, also isn't it a 40/60 power split? All these I would think would fare poorly for the ml
Last edited by PeterUbers; Nov 13, 2015 at 11:37 PM.
I wonder weight for weight which would win? i.e. put 552 extra pounds in the E63 and comparably weighted drivers...
obviously the E would win in a slalom due to center of gravity - but that straight line...
By all means, I am not a science guy, but if the same exact car/SUV with the same driver, doesn't the car/SUV with lower deficiency win no matter on cornering and stright away?
I think the ml63 has a little less power and produces more drag thanks to its SUV shape, also isn't it a 40/60 power split? All these I would think would fare poorly for the ml
pretty sure they're the same motor and same power
drag would definitely play in the race..
Originally Posted by Davidkuo0330
By all means, I am not a science guy, but if the same exact car/SUV with the same driver, doesn't the car/SUV with lower deficiency win no matter on cornering and stright away?
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ML63 vs AWD E63
