6.3 vs 5.5 Biturbo
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6.3 vs 5.5 Biturbo
Has anyone raced these two cars stock? I was curious which one would be faster from 30-90 and 60-130.
Obviously a tuned Biturbo is faster, but I am just looking for stock comparison.
I have a Eurocharged Tune, ROW Intake, and Resonator delete. I'm convinced that I can take a stock biturbo.
Would like to hear some insight.
Obviously a tuned Biturbo is faster, but I am just looking for stock comparison.
I have a Eurocharged Tune, ROW Intake, and Resonator delete. I'm convinced that I can take a stock biturbo.
Would like to hear some insight.
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With a tune I checked renntech and intake you should be putting 550 or so at the crank...where as a stock biturbo m157 is showing dynos between 510 to 540 all wheel...more like 630-670 crank hp.
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Originally Posted by marcolarco52
With a tune I checked renntech and intake you should be putting 550 or so at the crank...where as a stock biturbo m157 is showing dynos between 510 to 540 all wheel...more like 630-670 crank hp.
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I think stock for stock, assuming they don't start the pull at a point in the rpm band where the 6.2 will be below 4000rpm, it will be fairly close whichever way you look at it. From a dig, both with good tyres and conditions....could well be the same outcome.
As a guess, I'll give the edge to a 5.5TT and that's because it makes the same power as a lightly tuned 6.2, but with more torque. Your tuned car....who knows. Does the TT model have slightly longer gearing, being boosted? If so, your tuned car might have the edge.
As a guess, I'll give the edge to a 5.5TT and that's because it makes the same power as a lightly tuned 6.2, but with more torque. Your tuned car....who knows. Does the TT model have slightly longer gearing, being boosted? If so, your tuned car might have the edge.
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Originally Posted by Celicasaur
I think stock for stock, assuming they don't start the pull at a point in the rpm band where the 6.2 will be below 4000rpm, it will be fairly close whichever way you look at it. From a dig, both with good tyres and conditions....could well be the same outcome.
As a guess, I'll give the edge to a 5.5TT and that's because it makes the same power as a lightly tuned 6.2, but with more torque. Your tuned car....who knows. Does the TT model have slightly longer gearing, being boosted? If so, your tuned car might have the edge.
As a guess, I'll give the edge to a 5.5TT and that's because it makes the same power as a lightly tuned 6.2, but with more torque. Your tuned car....who knows. Does the TT model have slightly longer gearing, being boosted? If so, your tuned car might have the edge.
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it wont be close.... I've had both and both started stock and both ended up tuned...
when they were both stock, the 6.2 felt slow (i came from modded E55 to the 6.2), whereas the 5.5TT (in S-trim) felt fast.... actually fastest stock car i ever had
modded... they 6.2 doesnt stand a chance until you slap a stage 2 weistec s/c on it
when they were both stock, the 6.2 felt slow (i came from modded E55 to the 6.2), whereas the 5.5TT (in S-trim) felt fast.... actually fastest stock car i ever had
modded... they 6.2 doesnt stand a chance until you slap a stage 2 weistec s/c on it
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Originally Posted by gaspam
it wont be close.... I've had both and both started stock and both ended up tuned...
when they were both stock, the 6.2 felt slow (i came from modded E55 to the 6.2), whereas the 5.5TT (in S-trim) felt fast.... actually fastest stock car i ever had
modded... they 6.2 doesnt stand a chance until you slap a stage 2 weistec s/c on it
when they were both stock, the 6.2 felt slow (i came from modded E55 to the 6.2), whereas the 5.5TT (in S-trim) felt fast.... actually fastest stock car i ever had
modded... they 6.2 doesnt stand a chance until you slap a stage 2 weistec s/c on it
The M157 will eat the NA 6.2 alive.
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Has anyone raced these two cars stock? I was curious which one would be faster from 30-90 and 60-130.
Obviously a tuned Biturbo is faster, but I am just looking for stock comparison.
I have a Eurocharged Tune, ROW Intake, and Resonator delete. I'm convinced that I can take a stock biturbo.
Would like to hear some insight.
Obviously a tuned Biturbo is faster, but I am just looking for stock comparison.
I have a Eurocharged Tune, ROW Intake, and Resonator delete. I'm convinced that I can take a stock biturbo.
Would like to hear some insight.
Ie. The preface has the option P30 or performance package E63 and the facelift has the S model.
Honestly, I don't think the NA can keep up with the above mentioned options.
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Has anyone raced these two cars stock? I was curious which one would be faster from 30-90 and 60-130.
Obviously a tuned Biturbo is faster, but I am just looking for stock comparison.
I have a Eurocharged Tune, ROW Intake, and Resonator delete. I'm convinced that I can take a stock biturbo.
Would like to hear some insight.
Obviously a tuned Biturbo is faster, but I am just looking for stock comparison.
I have a Eurocharged Tune, ROW Intake, and Resonator delete. I'm convinced that I can take a stock biturbo.
Would like to hear some insight.
One thing I will say, it's nice to have both engines.
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the 63 NA is limited to about 550 or so with tune + headers + row
i have a set of shorties in a box for a year now and keep contemplating should i install and tune or just wait it out and jump to bi-turbo in the next year.
but do love the linear feeling power in the 63, but miss the grunt of the 55 - so figure the new bi-turbo is a blend of the 2
i have a set of shorties in a box for a year now and keep contemplating should i install and tune or just wait it out and jump to bi-turbo in the next year.
but do love the linear feeling power in the 63, but miss the grunt of the 55 - so figure the new bi-turbo is a blend of the 2
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Originally Posted by baldmike73
the 63 NA is limited to about 550 or so with tune + headers + row
i have a set of shorties in a box for a year now and keep contemplating should i install and tune or just wait it out and jump to bi-turbo in the next year.
but do love the linear feeling power in the 63, but miss the grunt of the 55 - so figure the new bi-turbo is a blend of the 2
i have a set of shorties in a box for a year now and keep contemplating should i install and tune or just wait it out and jump to bi-turbo in the next year.
but do love the linear feeling power in the 63, but miss the grunt of the 55 - so figure the new bi-turbo is a blend of the 2
I definitely feel the 63 is a better sounding motor than the 55. More raw power. Better grunt. And growls way louder through WOT.
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What kind of shorties do you have? I may be interested in them. Was looking into headers but I need to speak to my SA and see if they would void my warranty. That's my biggest concern.
I definitely feel the 63 is a better sounding motor than the 55. More raw power. Better grunt. And growls way louder through WOT.
I definitely feel the 63 is a better sounding motor than the 55. More raw power. Better grunt. And growls way louder through WOT.
I really want the m157 but i wouldn't trade the m156 for it..
The m156 motor is iconic in my opinion.
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
Would love to keep the M156 long term, but with all the problems mentioned by those on the W204 C63 forum, can't really do that after the warranty is up. Really hope that AMG would have gone in to correct all those little problems to make the M156 an otherwise bullet-proof unit.
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Originally Posted by otakki
Would love to keep the M156 long term, but with all the problems mentioned by those on the W204 C63 forum, can't really do that after the warranty is up. Really hope that AMG would have gone in to correct all those little problems to make the M156 an otherwise bullet-proof unit.
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it's really disappointing. Headbolts
Camshaft lobe wear
Tappets
And sometimes the VVT unit on the camshafts
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
Yes, really disappointing with all those parts as mentioned aboe by Celicasaur. Those problems have been shown to continue occurring even with newer built M156's in post 2011 C63's that had the heads taken off by forum members. You will find some of those threads with pictures on the C63 forum. Maybe the only way to keep such an engine around for long term is to go for the M159 in the SLS. Here is a link to one of the many sites on the lawsuit that had already closed, but it will give you an idea of what you are dealing with:
http://www.jacobregarlaw.com/Blog/20...or-the-M1.aspx
http://www.jacobregarlaw.com/Blog/20...or-the-M1.aspx
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