vikingdiesel

Looking to buy a 2012 or 2013 E63, what are the changes? Couldn't find info on it

PeterUbers

A big one is the better cooling system in the 2013+

vikingdiesel

Bigger intercooler?

Davidkuo0330

Preface lift vs. facelift. It'll depend what you want your AMG do. DD with some punch and have factory warranty, I would go for a 2013 E63. I have a 2012 and have not had a problem with it even with a upgrade.

Best of luck.

vikingdiesel

2012 and 2013 are both pre facelift

PeterUbers

Turbo cooling divorced from engine cooling

Probably would matter more on the track

vikingdiesel

oh, so split cooling? So even though 2013 is pre facelift, it still has this split cooling?

PeterUbers

Yup

vikingdiesel

thats it? Just the split cooling, anything else?

kponti

From what I understand, the split cooled versions also had an upgraded pump

vikingdiesel

The navigation system and interior stuff is all the same?

2012 CCB E63

Yes

vikingdiesel

If I add the spilt cooling trunk tank, will that pretty much be like a 2013 if I was to get a 2012?

V-AMG

Sounds like we are both in the market for a 2012/2013. I just started looking into these myself.

Id love to know the answer to the cooling question. I cant find the definitive answer on the difference. Heard 2013 had a larger overflow tank???

I also heard the 2012 had some jerky trans issues that is apparently just dealer reflash.

Side note, are you Serbian? I see the flag in the avatar.

2012 CCB E63

The cooling difference is a divorced system vs all in one.

in the 2012 MY the IC coolant is the same as the engine coolant.
in the 2013 MY the IC coolant is separate from the engine coolant.

I bought a 2012 CPO in January of 2016, have been smiling like a kid ever since. You won't regret the decision

Jbe63tt

Yea bought a 2012 w/ 30k and I drive it hard...never had any issues with cooling or heat soak.airmatic has issues after 40k but that will be the same on a 2013 anyway. You can save anywhere between 5-8k by buying a 2012 over a 2013 for virtually the same exact car and spend the difference on an extended warranty from mb

screw991le

One was made in 2012 and the other 2013.

Not much, but the price, look for a nice low mileage 2012 if you plan on keeping her for awhile. You'll save big on the price, taxes and such. IMHO.

V-AMG

I think im goig to start my search for a 2013 and heres my thought process:

I have a really nice 05 E55 now, low mileage, no accident, clean car. Turned over 70K the other day. I feel like modding will only drive the price down and being that it is over 10 years old, an upgrade would be nice despite that everything in this car is literally like new. Sure, im a bit ocd...especially with mechanical maintenance, but i have never had a break-down, check-engine light or similar. Anyway, if i keep it and keep driving it, the price will go down with the miles so its time to pass it along while it can still fetch a good chunk of change.

With that said, i do have my sights set on the 5.5TT. Unfortunately, i also have a budget to be mindful of. I do LOVE the facelift 2014 and newer, but being its the newest model i will pay for it dearly.

Im thinking buy the 2013 as its the not the latest model, so the prices already dropped a good amount. Im hoping to score one in the 40s. Then after a few years, let her go and hop into the facelifted 2014/15 which by then will come down in price AND also gives me something to look forward to in a year or two.

Lastly, the 2012 vs 2013 was a simple decision. I have a strict rule about not buying the 1st release of anything automotive so voila, 2013 it is.

I have a 3,000 mile road trip coming up this summer that i planned as sort of the last hoorah with the E55, so once i get back, i think that im going to post her up and start my search for the W212.

vikingdiesel

ehh....... 2012 is not really the first year, 2010 is the first year technically and the 157 isnt really all that new either, usually ill agree with the 1st year being problems but 2012 is actually a refresh from the 2010

Jbe63tt

2012 is not the first year....the m157 has been around since 2010 in the 2011 s63 and cl63.

screw991le

My 2010 is a great car, MB knows not to have most first year bugs like say a GM car. Then use it as an excuse. The wood trim is the most wide spread problem, everyone had. Head bolts is the next, but not all cars had them.

otakki

And now the Takata recall is likely to have the dashboard rip apart and lead to squeak and rattle afterward.

V-AMG

Was the M157 in the S63 the same one as in the 2012+ E63? Same output?

Also, what year did the S63 get it? And was it only the S63?

2012 merc amg

Yes same 5.5 TT motor in the S63. The S63 got that motor starting 2012 and like the E63's was just rwd until model year 2014. The S63 is a little slower because it is carrying extra weight.

Jbe63tt

Wrong...the 5.5Ltt m157 has been around since the 2011 model year in the s63 and cl63. Same exact motor