Starter Motor Died on w212 E63 5.5TT
Car is just out of warranty (4 years and 3 months). And the OEM replacement is A$3k (US$2.25k). Would have thought they should last longer than that and am surprised at the price. Just letting you folks know.
Cheers Joe |
Originally Posted by joew111
(Post 6756385)
Car is just out of warranty (3 years and 3 months). And the OEM replacement is A$3k (US$2.25k). Would have thought they should last longer than that and am surprised at the price. Just letting you folks know.
Cheers Joe |
First registered Dec 2011 (MY11). Rarely drove it in Eco (hated the slight delay)
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
(Post 6756388)
Did you have Eco start/stop on often? What year is your car
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My understanding is that the starter is not used for eco mode. The start up in eco mode has to do with firing the correct cylinder to kick the engine to start. I am not sure if all eco stop/start systems are the same. Also the starter for my 2011 E63 is about $200.00 U.S. at parts stores.
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Originally Posted by homeofstone
(Post 6756714)
My understanding is that the starter is not used for eco mode. The start up in eco mode has to do with firing the correct cylinder to kick the engine to start. I am not sure if all eco stop/start systems are the same. Also the starter for my 2011 E63 is about $200.00 U.S. at parts stores.
http://media.daimler.com/dcmedia/0-9...0-0-0-0-0.html How the ECO start/stop system works in detail: as a general principle, the engine is switched off every time the vehicle comes to a standstill (auto-stop function. Restarting the engine (auto-starting function) takes place almost imperceptibly; and moving off without any noticeable time lag compared to a stationary vehicle with its engine running. This rapid action is attributable to two special features: a crankshaft Hall sensor which is able to identify the rotational direction of the crankshaft enables the engine control unit to identify the cylinder in which the piston is ideally positioned for starting. The fuel is injected into this cylinder first, thereby speeding up the starting process. An additional electric transmission oil pump supplies the clutches of the automatic transmission with oil pressure prior to starting, so as to enable a swift resumption of the journey after direct starting of the combustion engine via the ECO start/stop function. The starter motor (starter) has also undergone thorough modification: it is now designed to cope with eight times as many starting procedures, ensuring that it will last a car's lifetime in continuous urban driving involving frequent auto-starting. In addition, the on-board electrical system is supported by a second battery. |
Wow, that's a major difference for the cost of the starter! That's a really short life for the starter.
BTW, wouldn't it be the other way around? Meaning the starter should last 8X longer if you turn off the eco mode all the time. |
holy fark. not good not good. it'd make SENSE that the starter would fail earlier.. i mean, if you're in traffic, and on ECO (and I am, both) then the restarts are WAY more than just 8x the typical driving cycle...
if don't run ECO if you don't have extended warranty... :wall: |
I have a hybrid with quite a bit more complicated mechanicals with start stop and has 120k miles on it, no problems with starter. MB can't even make a starter last long on a regular internal combustion engine...... Smh
I'm hoping it's an isolated case and not what's to come on these cars |
I essentially never read about dead starters on these cars... This is an isolated case for now
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
(Post 6757580)
I essentially never read about dead starters on these cars... This is an isolated case for now
I wonder how the E350s are fairing? They usually on average have a lot more miles and a lot more use and abuse. |
I wish every car will have one of those slot for hand-cranking so at least one can gets to where one needs to go if the starter dies. Too bad can't be pushed start like manual can.
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Starting Again
Happy Ending! - MB and MB Brighton comped the replacement starter and labour when I expressed my disappointment about my bad luck and the expense to the service representative. Happy days and great service from MB Brighton.
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Originally Posted by joew111
(Post 6760877)
Happy Ending! - MB and MB Brighton comped the replacement starter and labour when I expressed my disappointment about my bad luck and the expense to the service representative. Happy days and great service from MB Brighton.
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Comped both parts and labor
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There should be an option to disable the eco-function and just use the non-eco starter for $200 as mentioned above.
Originally Posted by joew111
(Post 6762398)
Comped both parts and labor
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Well this is a happy ending
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Originally Posted by otakki
(Post 6760046)
I wish every car will have one of those slot for hand-cranking so at least one can gets to where one needs to go if the starter dies. Too bad can't be pushed start like manual can.
Glad it ended well for the OP. |
for me it was 1, but it was a crappy 1 time as i was in miami and had to drive back to nashville for work and it was late afternoon sunday which means i couldnt get a starter till monday, so that sucked
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Hopefully it wouldn't cost too much to rebuild it
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Yes - Melbourne Australia
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Wow, the cost is really surprising. Glad to see that your dealer took care of you. This is a good reminder for me to use S or S+ more often...and be extra nice to my service manager!
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