W212 AMG Discuss the W212 AMG's such as the E63
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

What is the deal with CLS63 AMG being Faster in the 1/4 than the E63?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 09-19-2016, 08:31 PM
  #1  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
kamilclk430's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,630
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 6 Posts
W215 V12TT Build by Speedriven, W221 S550 4Matic
What is the deal with CLS63 AMG being Faster in the 1/4 than the E63?

Hey Guys,

I been out of the game a long time, but Im in the market for another car. Maybe a Mercedes again. I noticed on Drag Times that the CLS63 AMG cars are more in the 10s than the E63 AMG cars. Is there any reason, what am I missing? I know the CLS63 is a rear wheel drive car, I was leaning towards the newer CLS63 with 4 matic.

I like the E63AMG but seems like people are stuck in low 11 passes in these.

Thanks

KAMIL
Old 09-19-2016, 09:14 PM
  #2  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
gaspam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: miami / delray beach
Posts: 2,841
Received 201 Likes on 154 Posts
2014 E63s amg 4matic, 2009 C63, 2006 E55 AMG , 2001.5 AUDI S4 stg 3+ w/meth
there are only 2 cls63's on dragtimes that are in the 10's that dont have upgraded turbos or that arent at yas marina track in UAE that has suspicously high times (a e63 ran 10.12 there and sl63 ran 10.01 there)

so basically there are 2 tuned stock turbo cls63s vs 1 tuned stock turbo e63 in the 10's on dragtimes
Old 09-19-2016, 10:21 PM
  #3  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
E55Dimon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: MA
Posts: 2,183
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
E63S
Interesting post, CLS63 is also over 200lbs heavier than an E63.
Old 09-20-2016, 08:17 AM
  #4  
Zod
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Zod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Kuwait
Posts: 2,597
Received 19 Likes on 16 Posts
CLS55 2006, CLS 63S 2015
Originally Posted by E55Dimon
Interesting post, CLS63 is also over 200lbs heavier than an E63.
Sexy just goes fast, whether it's literally or emotionally

ORRR think of it this way, when you're out and you see a hot rear end on a lady, do you:

A: Pass it and never see it again.
B: Slow down and enjoy the view as it sways past for owww a little bit longer

The CLS is the lady with the rear...There you have your answer, Those pesky E's just can't get enough of it

Last edited by Zod; 09-20-2016 at 08:23 AM.
The following users liked this post:
Cylinder Head (01-27-2020)
Old 09-20-2016, 10:19 AM
  #5  
Junior Member
 
quandary's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 56
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
2014 CLS63 AMG S
Consider that MB could be tuning the CLS63s to be faster since it is definitely a sportier vehicle, at least from their branding perspective. CLS63 is sold as a COUPE, E63 is sold as a sedan - buyers inherently expect more from the former, and MB delivers in that regard. There is also a major difference in the body shape and aerodynamics (aside: is CLS63 lower?) although I am not sure how much of a role that plays.

But if you browse the MB site and model information, the CLS has lower, faster times for 0-60, etc. The disparity is occurring from the factory.
The following users liked this post:
a100steaksauce (09-20-2016)
Old 09-20-2016, 11:05 AM
  #6  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
E55Dimon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: MA
Posts: 2,183
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
E63S
Originally Posted by Zod


Sexy just goes fast, whether it's literally or emotionally

ORRR think of it this way, when you're out and you see a hot rear end on a lady, do you:

A: Pass it and never see it again.
B: Slow down and enjoy the view as it sways past for owww a little bit longer

The CLS is the lady with the rear...There you have your answer, Those pesky E's just can't get enough of it

Well put

I wonder if it's the same deal as the E55 being faster than the CLS55, SL55 etc.
I had my CLS63 EC tuned even before I had it registered lol. Would love to find a tuned rwd Bi-turbo E63 to run while the asphalt still grips.
Old 09-20-2016, 09:45 PM
  #7  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
TMC M5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Maryland
Posts: 2,895
Received 52 Likes on 45 Posts
'14 E63S & '14 Audi SQ5
Originally Posted by quandary
Consider that MB could be tuning the CLS63s to be faster since it is definitely a sportier vehicle, at least from their branding perspective. CLS63 is sold as a COUPE, E63 is sold as a sedan - buyers inherently expect more from the former, and MB delivers in that regard. There is also a major difference in the body shape and aerodynamics (aside: is CLS63 lower?) although I am not sure how much of a role that plays.

But if you browse the MB site and model information, the CLS has lower, faster times for 0-60, etc. The disparity is occurring from the factory.
I am not sure about the theory of a tuning difference. Take the Motor Trend testing of the two models:

http://www.motortrend.com/news/luxur...an-comparison/

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/bmw/m...ck-comparison/

Virtually identical times. The E63 S actually has a .1s quicker ET in the 1/4 mile but the CLS63 S has an almost 1 mph higher trap speed. That is a statistical dead heat. You would need to do much more sampling to definitively say one is quicker or faster than the other.
Old 09-22-2016, 12:21 AM
  #8  
Member
 
cadeca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: SoCal
Posts: 201
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
2006 SLK55, 2014 E63 Wagon
I always thought they were comparable. Thanks for the links!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: What is the deal with CLS63 AMG being Faster in the 1/4 than the E63?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:54 AM.