E63s ride quality
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E63s ride quality
Just wanted to get some feedback from people regarding ride quality on the e63s in "comfort" mode?
does it feel like the same ride quality as a regular E when in comfort mode?
i found it rides a bit harsh for some reason, expected more
of a smooth ride on rough roads in comfort mode.
is the e63 w212 chasis based off the c class chassis like the e coupe or is it any different? Maybe this has something to do with it feeling a bit unsettled?
does it feel like the same ride quality as a regular E when in comfort mode?
i found it rides a bit harsh for some reason, expected more
of a smooth ride on rough roads in comfort mode.
is the e63 w212 chasis based off the c class chassis like the e coupe or is it any different? Maybe this has something to do with it feeling a bit unsettled?
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I was actually impressed with the comfort coming from my C and I was also impressed by the difference in comfort between comfort mode and sport +.
I have also been in a normal E-class which did feel slightly more comfortable, or softer, on the road but that's probably because it had smaller wheels with tires that had a larger more forgiving sidewall.
I have also been in a normal E-class which did feel slightly more comfortable, or softer, on the road but that's probably because it had smaller wheels with tires that had a larger more forgiving sidewall.
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I just purchased a pre-owned 2014 e63s and coming from a w204 C63 and an F10 M5, I would say the ride quality is much harsher. So much so that I'm wondering if there is a problem with my tires. It's a 3 year old car with the original P-Zero tires. It only had 5k miles on it when I bought it used so it wasn't driven much. Not sure how much difference that could make. Tire pressures are correct.
It doesn't really bother me that much, but a little surprising. And thankfully my roads are pretty good.
It doesn't really bother me that much, but a little surprising. And thankfully my roads are pretty good.
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It's harsher than the regular E for sure. Coming from an E55, the newer comfort setting is more harsh than the old Sport+. Not what I was expecting from MB.
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And thankfully my roads are pretty good.
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Well for one, the car no longer has airmatic in the front. Also, the wheels have thinner sidewalls... 35 in the front and 30 in the rear compared to 40 in the front and 35 in the rear with the E55.
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I just purchased a pre-owned 2014 e63s and coming from a w204 C63 and an F10 M5, I would say the ride quality is much harsher. So much so that I'm wondering if there is a problem with my tires. It's a 3 year old car with the original P-Zero tires. It only had 5k miles on it when I bought it used so it wasn't driven much. Not sure how much difference that could make. Tire pressures are correct.
It doesn't really bother me that much, but a little surprising. And thankfully my roads are pretty good.
It doesn't really bother me that much, but a little surprising. And thankfully my roads are pretty good.
comfortable ride. The main reason for this is because it's Chassis is a modified 7series/ RR ghost. It's also why the f10 looks so much bigger next to the w212. The funny thing is that it's only larger looking on the exterior, but on the inside the w212 has alot more room. A much better design IMO for the w212 chassis in this category.
I came from a w204 c63 2013 p31 and in comfort mode it's definitely more comfy than the c63. That is something where you should be able to tell the difference, but makes sense the m5 is more comfortable.
This really makes me wish MB did not use a modified C class chassis for the w212. Just sacrifice the luxury aspect of this car far too much especially for a Benz mid class segment car.
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so I've been researching the m5 and it seems compared to the e63s it is said to have a much more
comfortable ride. The main reason for this is because it's Chassis is a modified 7series/ RR ghost. It's also why the f10 looks so much bigger next to the w212. The funny thing is that it's only larger looking on the exterior, but on the inside the w212 has alot more room. A much better design IMO for the w212 chassis in this category.
I came from a w204 c63 2013 p31 and in comfort mode it's definitely more comfy than the c63. That is something where you should be able to tell the difference, but makes sense the m5 is more comfortable.
This really makes me wish MB did not use a modified C class chassis for the w212. Just sacrifice the luxury aspect of this car far too much especially for a Benz mid class segment car.
comfortable ride. The main reason for this is because it's Chassis is a modified 7series/ RR ghost. It's also why the f10 looks so much bigger next to the w212. The funny thing is that it's only larger looking on the exterior, but on the inside the w212 has alot more room. A much better design IMO for the w212 chassis in this category.
I came from a w204 c63 2013 p31 and in comfort mode it's definitely more comfy than the c63. That is something where you should be able to tell the difference, but makes sense the m5 is more comfortable.
This really makes me wish MB did not use a modified C class chassis for the w212. Just sacrifice the luxury aspect of this car far too much especially for a Benz mid class segment car.
I ride around in S+ suspension mode all the time so I don't mind
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I still feel however even with 19s the ride quality in comfort mode is much better than S+. S+ basically feels like a w204 c63 which is very harsh and permanently set that way.
So I guess this is just the way this suspension is? I thought airmatic was so supposed to be special...
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I have the 19s but I also have the P30 package - from what I've heard the P30's suspension tuning could be thought of as adding an "even firmer" setting for the Sport+ mode, and losing the true "comfort" setting that the non-P30s have. Its not bad, and its lovely on a smooth track, but I do sometimes wish I'd gone without it for that reason when I've got company in the car.
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I have the 19s but I also have the P30 package - from what I've heard the P30's suspension tuning could be thought of as adding an "even firmer" setting for the Sport+ mode, and losing the true "comfort" setting that the non-P30s have. Its not bad, and its lovely on a smooth track, but I do sometimes wish I'd gone without it for that reason when I've got company in the car.
if so, wish I got a non S and just tuned it. Would probably be more comfy in comfort mode.
I do do wonder though if there's really any difference in the same "comfort" mode setting between S and non S as they both use airmatic suspension in the back, with conventional suspension in the front so why would it be different??
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I was never expecting a smooth ride from an E63, so i am happy with mine.
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Definitely a harsher ride than a stock E, even in comfort mode. My daily commute is in downtown San Francisco, so it's definitely noticeable. Whenever I get a loaner E class from the dealership, I'm amazed at how comfortable the ride could be. But, that same car on the freeway feels floaty and downright dangerous to me when driving on the freeway, so I'll take the firmer suspension any day.
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does this also apply to the e63s vs non S models with the AWD?
if so, wish I got a non S and just tuned it. Would probably be more comfy in comfort mode.
I do do wonder though if there's really any difference in the same "comfort" mode setting between S and non S as they both use airmatic suspension in the back, with conventional suspension in the front so why would it be different??
if so, wish I got a non S and just tuned it. Would probably be more comfy in comfort mode.
I do do wonder though if there's really any difference in the same "comfort" mode setting between S and non S as they both use airmatic suspension in the back, with conventional suspension in the front so why would it be different??
the suspension is same for e63S and e63-non S 2014+
And you wouldnt have had an LSD with non S
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well then in that case definitely better to get the S.
Peter was your e550 that rode much better a luxury or sport model?
i heard that for all the E class cars Mercedes VASTLY improved the ride quality along with the facelift with suspension tweaks.
I dont know if the same applies to the E63 as well but am wondering if a ore facelift rides more harsh. Anybody compare them a 12-13 vs a 14+? In comfort mode it does well on most rides actually, just really bad ones make it seem like not enough travel. Surprising as the rear end looks seriously jacked up high in comfort mode. Does comfort mode also change the settings for the front electronic dampers or is that set permanently one way?
Whats your tire pressures at? Maybe I just have mine set too high...
i wonder if michellin PSS would improve ride quality over stock p-zeros...
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so a non S rids the same and has no lsd?
well then in that case definitely better to get the S.
Peter was your e550 that rode much better a luxury or sport model?
i heard that for all the E class cars Mercedes VASTLY improved the ride quality along with the facelift with suspension tweaks.
I dont know if the same applies to the E63 as well but am wondering if a ore facelift rides more harsh. Anybody compare them a 12-13 vs a 14+? In comfort mode it does well on most rides actually, just really bad ones make it seem like not enough travel. Surprising as the rear end looks seriously jacked up high in comfort mode. Does comfort mode also change the settings for the front electronic dampers or is that set permanently one way?
Whats your tire pressures at? Maybe I just have mine set too high...
i wonder if michellin PSS would improve ride quality over stock p-zeros...
well then in that case definitely better to get the S.
Peter was your e550 that rode much better a luxury or sport model?
i heard that for all the E class cars Mercedes VASTLY improved the ride quality along with the facelift with suspension tweaks.
I dont know if the same applies to the E63 as well but am wondering if a ore facelift rides more harsh. Anybody compare them a 12-13 vs a 14+? In comfort mode it does well on most rides actually, just really bad ones make it seem like not enough travel. Surprising as the rear end looks seriously jacked up high in comfort mode. Does comfort mode also change the settings for the front electronic dampers or is that set permanently one way?
Whats your tire pressures at? Maybe I just have mine set too high...
i wonder if michellin PSS would improve ride quality over stock p-zeros...
the suspension button toggle the front electronic dampener on the e63
Yep, s and non s were same suspension 2014+
I am at 42 all around
my conti dws all weather softened my ride slightly in a good way compared to the stock summer tires
some argue that LSD is inconsequential with awd while others say LSD is vital with 600+ hp regardless of awd
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interesting. It's been noted that in 2014 along with facelift MB tweaked the suspension of the e class to ride much more comfortably. I'm not sure if that also applies to the AMG models or if all e63s from every year have the same ride quality.
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I just purchased a pre-owned 2014 e63s and coming from a w204 C63 and an F10 M5, I would say the ride quality is much harsher. So much so that I'm wondering if there is a problem with my tires. It's a 3 year old car with the original P-Zero tires. It only had 5k miles on it when I bought it used so it wasn't driven much. Not sure how much difference that could make. Tire pressures are correct.
It doesn't really bother me that much, but a little surprising. And thankfully my roads are pretty good.
It doesn't really bother me that much, but a little surprising. And thankfully my roads are pretty good.
You probably need new tires. I have the P-zeros on mine, but they are about a year old. As they are wearing (lots of highway miles), I can tell they are getting a little firmer and i'm about due for another set. I've been happy with them and plan to get the same set.
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I also came from a C63 P31 package. My 2014 E63S is like super smooth silk butter compared to my prior C63. Not even close! C63 would feel like I was damaging the suspension it was so stiff, particularly bumpy roads. I had the Michelin Super Sports on my C63.
You probably need new tires. I have the P-zeros on mine, but they are about a year old. As they are wearing (lots of highway miles), I can tell they are getting a little firmer and i'm about due for another set. I've been happy with them and plan to get the same set.
You probably need new tires. I have the P-zeros on mine, but they are about a year old. As they are wearing (lots of highway miles), I can tell they are getting a little firmer and i'm about due for another set. I've been happy with them and plan to get the same set.
I recall reading an interesting article lately about collector cars and how some of them are still sitting on original rubber. They mentioned the Paul Walker crash and how that Carrera GT probably had 9 year original rubber on it that had zero grip.
@insame1: I mainly stick to 360/2244/71 so they are pretty smooth. Yesterday I was driving around exposition/34th/35th street and it was brutal!
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I also came from a C63 P31 package. My 2014 E63S is like super smooth silk butter compared to my prior C63. Not even close! C63 would feel like I was damaging the suspension it was so stiff, particularly bumpy roads. I had the Michelin Super Sports on my C63.
You probably need new tires. I have the P-zeros on mine, but they are about a year old. As they are wearing (lots of highway miles), I can tell they are getting a little firmer and i'm about due for another set. I've been happy with them and plan to get the same set.
You probably need new tires. I have the P-zeros on mine, but they are about a year old. As they are wearing (lots of highway miles), I can tell they are getting a little firmer and i'm about due for another set. I've been happy with them and plan to get the same set.
C63 p31 felt like the chassis was about to crack in half every time I went over a pothole. Bumpy roads on e63s are much better.
With that said I thought because of airmatic that e63s in comfort mode would feel like an S class. Boy was I wrong on that lol
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Ride quality sucks in comfort, a bit better in sport, don't use sport plus much on the street.
Main criteria is that the chassis just seems noisy and very non luxurious in comfort mode. Coupled with the fact that body lean is excessive for how bumpy (not stiff) the shocks are in comfort mode on minor road irregularities. It's better on bigger bumps though. That combo makes me feel comfort mode sucks
Main criteria is that the chassis just seems noisy and very non luxurious in comfort mode. Coupled with the fact that body lean is excessive for how bumpy (not stiff) the shocks are in comfort mode on minor road irregularities. It's better on bigger bumps though. That combo makes me feel comfort mode sucks
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I had a 2010 c63 and a 2013 M5, and in honestly can't complain about the ride quality of the E63 . Having said that, i recently switched tires to DWS 06 for the winter season, and the ride feels a little softer