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Old 04-03-2017, 05:48 PM
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the lol is you say 6.6s was 1 second faster with valve mod so you think tune only e63 does 100-200 in 7.6s without valve mod=false again do the math.
in 100–200 I'm shifting only 1 time , does it make sense ?
1 second off of all the shifting you have in the transmission first gear thru 7th .
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in 100–200 I'm shifting only 1 time , does it make sense ?
1 second off of all the shifting you have in the transmission first gear thru 7th .
So you think you gained .67 seconds in the 1/4mile from a valve body mod? I don't pretend to know what you know but I'm pretty sure that's bullsh*t...
Old 04-03-2017, 05:55 PM
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So you think you gained .67 seconds in the 1/4mile from a valve body mod? I don't pretend to know what you know but I'm pretty sure that's bullsh*t...
I have no idea what I gained and I don't care , valve body mode done for transmission safety . on the video there is a result and list of modes , what so difficult ?
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I have no idea what I gained and I don't care , valve body mode done for transmission safety . on the video there is a result and list of modes , what so difficult ?
This is what's difficult for me:

1. I don't believe many claims from Weistec.
2. I've done FULL tranny mods (including valvebodys) in other AMGs that have far more room for improvement without those kinds of results.
3. Vbox is like a dyno, too many variables that can be manipulated by the operator (on purpose or by accident) for me to believe one off random claims.
4. Not verified on a track
Old 04-03-2017, 06:09 PM
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here we go


I didn't claimed I did gained something , it was a question I replied with no statements
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
This is what's difficult for me:

1. I don't believe many claims from Weistec.
2. I've done FULL tranny mods (including valvebodys) in other AMGs that have far more room for improvement without those kinds of results.
3. Vbox is like a dyno, too many variables that can be manipulated by the operator (on purpose or by accident) for me to believe one off random claims.
4. Not verified on a track
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in 100–200 I'm shifting only 1 time , does it make sense ?
1 second off of all the shifting you have in the transmission first gear thru 7th .
very nice, now I'll ask you for the third time

you are agreeing then that without this valve mod you did, that your 100-200 time would of been 7.6 instead of 6.6s?

its a yes or no answer.

And FYI it's been widely documented that a tune only e63 with no valve mod upgrade has done it in the same 6.6s you got WITH the valve mod so you make no sense that your a full second faster with the shift times. If that were true you should be doing 100-200 in 5.6-5.8s, not 6.6s.
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Originally Posted by Fairbird
here we go


I didn't claimed I did gained something , it was a question I replied with no statements
One lonely timeslip is worthless and missing half the data being only 1/8mile.
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
One lonely timeslip is worthless and missing half the data being only 1/8mile.
you have that same 1/8 mile in the vbox with 7.2 matching time .
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Originally Posted by Amg63-
very nice, now I'll ask you for the third time

you are agreeing then that without this valve mod you did, that your 100-200 time would of been 7.6 instead of 6.6s?

its a yes or no answer.

And FYI it's been widely documented that a tune only e63 with no valve mod upgrade has done it in the same 6.6s you got WITH the valve mod so you make no sense that your a full second faster with the shift times. If that were true you should be doing 100-200 in 5.6-5.8s, not 6.6s.
it's either my English or you are not reading what I said . It's so simple . Come on you can do better . Just read .
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it's either my English or you are not reading what I said . It's so simple . Come on you can do better . Just read .
Didn't you say it was worth a full second difference in 100-200?
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Originally Posted by Amg63-
very nice, now I'll ask you for the third time

you are agreeing then that without this valve mod you did, that your 100-200 time would of been 7.6 instead of 6.6s?

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where are you getting 7.6 from?

he never said 7.6 that i can see... he said his car did 6.6 w/ valve body mod and that it is worth 1 second over span of 7 gears, so in 100-200 kph, with 1 shift, it would be worth 1/7= .14 sec in theory which would mean w/o VB upgrade 100-200 would of been 6.74
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where are you getting 7.6 from?

he never said 7.6 that i can see... he said his car did 6.6 w/ valve body mod and that it is worth 1 second over span of 7 gears, so in 100-200 kph, with 1 shift, it would be worth 1/7= .14 sec in theory which would mean w/o VB upgrade 100-200 would of been 6.74
oh this makes sense. So 6.7 vs 6.6

i thought he was saying it's a full second off the time from 100-200. Thanks for the clarification.
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Originally Posted by gaspam
where are you getting 7.6 from?

he never said 7.6 that i can see... he said his car did 6.6 w/ valve body mod and that it is worth 1 second over span of 7 gears, so in 100-200 kph, with 1 shift, it would be worth 1/7= .14 sec in theory which would mean w/o VB upgrade 100-200 would of been 6.74
thank you so much
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