Just Ordered AL Priority Laser Jammer - Input Requested
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Just Ordered AL Priority Laser Jammer - Input Requested
Hey Guys,
So I just placed the order for the jamming system, 3 heads in front. I have most of the install mapped out including the firewall challenge. See the other thread. The one thing I am undecided on is where to install the peripheral warning LED. The LED is something like 3/16ths or 1/4 inch diameter. I have 3 options I have come up with and after some research I think all 3 are doable. Just finished up a lot of homework on how to disassemble everything in the dash and console. I even ordered the special hook tools for pulling thinks apart. So because I value what you guys think (well some of you, ), I have identified 3 options for placing it. Of course it will require 1 small drill hole. Option 3 might be the best, but I really hate the thought of drilling a hole in that lacquer black Designo trim. I also considered placing it inside of one of the vents. But I need to see when I get in there how practical that is.
So please look at my 3 options, tell me your thoughts, or offer any other ideas. I am all ears!
So I just placed the order for the jamming system, 3 heads in front. I have most of the install mapped out including the firewall challenge. See the other thread. The one thing I am undecided on is where to install the peripheral warning LED. The LED is something like 3/16ths or 1/4 inch diameter. I have 3 options I have come up with and after some research I think all 3 are doable. Just finished up a lot of homework on how to disassemble everything in the dash and console. I even ordered the special hook tools for pulling thinks apart. So because I value what you guys think (well some of you, ), I have identified 3 options for placing it. Of course it will require 1 small drill hole. Option 3 might be the best, but I really hate the thought of drilling a hole in that lacquer black Designo trim. I also considered placing it inside of one of the vents. But I need to see when I get in there how practical that is.
So please look at my 3 options, tell me your thoughts, or offer any other ideas. I am all ears!
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I would not do option 3...
Another good location be on top of the steering column cover. In the line of sight but easier to get to than removing the entire cluster.
Another good location be on top of the steering column cover. In the line of sight but easier to get to than removing the entire cluster.
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With regard to sensor locations this is my plan below. Remember it is OK for them to be visible. You will notice the product is strategically marketed as a parking sensor system. Nothing illegal about that.
Note that in the pic below it is not to scale. The sensors are smaller than what I drew. It's almost like the body designers of this model created a nice flat level upper lip there to place the sensors!
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I think those locations are quite OK!,
I was planning on putting the normal sensors below the headlights, in the aux cooler openings. Just to get some more horizontal coverage. Either probably work well.
Or in your location and then make them flush with the honeycomb grill plastic.
As you have realized, the TX sensor has to be 20 (?) of the ground.
Are you leaving the GPS puck under the cowling (where the fuse box is? That was my plan, under the plastic, not the hood of course!
Lastly - I was planning to remove the bumper to A) get better access to the work area from behind, and B) ensure you can attache the wires effectively from the back to existing wires etc.
But looking at your approach, if the sensors are small enough, I bet they can be placed in front of the grill and hence eliminate the need to remove the bumper, just use small fingers!
I was planning on putting the normal sensors below the headlights, in the aux cooler openings. Just to get some more horizontal coverage. Either probably work well.
Or in your location and then make them flush with the honeycomb grill plastic.
As you have realized, the TX sensor has to be 20 (?) of the ground.
Are you leaving the GPS puck under the cowling (where the fuse box is? That was my plan, under the plastic, not the hood of course!
Lastly - I was planning to remove the bumper to A) get better access to the work area from behind, and B) ensure you can attache the wires effectively from the back to existing wires etc.
But looking at your approach, if the sensors are small enough, I bet they can be placed in front of the grill and hence eliminate the need to remove the bumper, just use small fingers!
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One more thing - depending on if you run a front plate or not the sensor placement shifts a little bit.
For states with plates - they will always aim for it (easiest and most reflective). The sensors in the middle are good.
For states without plates - they will aim for headlights. Even though modern headlights (LED) are much less effective as reflective surfaces than the old Xenon or normal bulbs (much smaller reflector). Looks like you are in a state without plates, so try to get the normal sensors are close to the headlights as possible.
For states with plates - they will always aim for it (easiest and most reflective). The sensors in the middle are good.
For states without plates - they will aim for headlights. Even though modern headlights (LED) are much less effective as reflective surfaces than the old Xenon or normal bulbs (much smaller reflector). Looks like you are in a state without plates, so try to get the normal sensors are close to the headlights as possible.
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One more thing - depending on if you run a front plate or not the sensor placement shifts a little bit.
For states with plates - they will always aim for it (easiest and most reflective). The sensors in the middle are good.
For states without plates - they will aim for headlights. Even though modern headlights (LED) are much less effective as reflective surfaces than the old Xenon or normal bulbs (much smaller reflector). Looks like you are in a state without plates, so try to get the normal sensors are close to the headlights as possible.
For states with plates - they will always aim for it (easiest and most reflective). The sensors in the middle are good.
For states without plates - they will aim for headlights. Even though modern headlights (LED) are much less effective as reflective surfaces than the old Xenon or normal bulbs (much smaller reflector). Looks like you are in a state without plates, so try to get the normal sensors are close to the headlights as possible.
based on the effective radius of the transmitters, I believe my locations should protect against the headlights.
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OMG!! This is way too crazy. I literally just came in from pulling out that vent and looking around and just decided to put my controler almost exactly where yours is! I see plenty of realestate too place the hi-fi speaker in there on top of the kick panel above the pedals. Thinking of placing the led just to the right of the headlight control. Where is yours? Do you have a gps puck? Thinking of puting mine up on dash in the corner under windshield.
Basically, what I determined is that I can do the entitre inside install without removing anything beyond the left vent assembly and kick panel underneath.
Basically, what I determined is that I can do the entitre inside install without removing anything beyond the left vent assembly and kick panel underneath.
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I did the escort max ci360 and performed the following:
Display - Driver side headliner near rear view mirror
Control - fabricated into ash tray cubby
rear jammers - above license plate both sides
front jammers - below front grill both sides
pics:
Display - Driver side headliner near rear view mirror
Control - fabricated into ash tray cubby
rear jammers - above license plate both sides
front jammers - below front grill both sides
pics:
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Also, I cant make out the picture of the front jammers. It is a 2015 e63 right? Also, have you had your system tested? If I am seeing your pic correctly, they seem a bit low on the front end from what I have read.
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I didn't do the install myself. Mine has the GPS but I'm not sure where it's located. I had another vehicle done a couple of years ago or so before that GPS thing came out and I noticed there is a controller or a computer sort of thing in the driver foot area.
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Thanks for sharing this. When I posted this thread it was more intended to get info on specifically the ALP system. Your post would be certainly apprporiate on a general laser jammer thread.
Also, I cant make out the picture of the front jammers. It is a 2015 e63 right? Also, have you had your system tested? If I am seeing your pic correctly, they seem a bit low on the front end from what I have read.
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they are low in front, yes. I’ve put down a good amount of mileage since installation and am always alerted 1/4 to 1/2 a mile of an active threat with directional (front or behind). Haven’t been able to test the jammer yet but I’d like to. What made you choose the ALP over any of the others out there?
A couple of years back, I almost went with that integrated ci setup you have. Then I held off for a while for the next ride. When I got the new ride a month ago, I started researching again and the ALP just seemed like the right answer. Your inside install is nice, I admit. I decided to go with the higher rated protection though.
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I'm looking at your front sensor locations, and they seem to be configured differently than the ALP recommendations. They suggest the small TX sensor in the middle at least 20 inches above ground, and then the 2 standard sensors closer to headlights, like you have your drivers side sensor. Am I seeing your pic correct? Looks like you have the TX sensor close to the passenger side headlight?
Did you find out something different than what they suggest?
Thanks
Did you find out something different than what they suggest?
Thanks
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i had it installed before the TX sensor was available. The system failed after a few months due to a defective sensor. If the system was it would repeat
"automatic sensor checked failed F2"
over and over nonstop without pause until I turned it off. So the installer replaced the defector sensor with TX sensor. He could have used a regular sensor but he said TX was more powerful.
"automatic sensor checked failed F2"
over and over nonstop without pause until I turned it off. So the installer replaced the defector sensor with TX sensor. He could have used a regular sensor but he said TX was more powerful.
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i had it installed before the TX sensor was available. The system failed after a few months due to a defective sensor. If the system was it would repeat
"automatic sensor checked failed F2"
over and over nonstop without pause until I turned it off. So the installer replaced the defector sensor with TX sensor. He could have used a regular sensor but he said TX was more powerful.
"automatic sensor checked failed F2"
over and over nonstop without pause until I turned it off. So the installer replaced the defector sensor with TX sensor. He could have used a regular sensor but he said TX was more powerful.
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By The Way
I happen to work for the world leader in LiDAR imaging sensors for autonomous cars ( I will let you guys guess who, and I will not confirm who :-) ). So tomorrow I will be bringing in my new ALP system (that arrived at my house today) to work tomorrow and do some bench testing to see if it impacts our sensors. I suspect it might since LiDAR police guns operate within our wavelength bandwidth. But on the bright side, I get to setup my system on the bench on company time! lol
Not sure I can share the bench testing results though. I mean I could tell you, but then I would (ah you know the rest) lol
Not sure I can share the bench testing results though. I mean I could tell you, but then I would (ah you know the rest) lol
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So I don't know if you had your system fully tested for "punch-throughs" at one of the periodic events. I am pretty sure you should have the sensors positioned as I have them illustrated above in this thread marked with red rectangles. The TX should certainly be in the middle for optimum performance and up higher than your middle standard sensor. Just trying to offer constructive advice. Certainly not knit picking your setup. Maybe it's not as touchy as the youtube clips make it out to be?
This was before the TX sensor. Even if it's installed in the wrong spot I imagine it must be at least as good as the sensor that was on there before. Whoever did the install probably did not want to dismantle the sensors and reinstall them in order for the TX sensor to be in the middle and higher up. He may have done it that way if it was a fresh install.
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Yeah I tested my system by deliberately speeding through the laser photoradar traps and checking my mail for tickets. Passed the tests with flying colors, God be praised. One time I counted 16 laser notifications so I know these guys were trying real hard to get my speed.
This was before the TX sensor. Even if it's installed in the wrong spot I imagine it must be at least as good as the sensor that was on there before. Whoever did the install probably did not want to dismantle the sensors and reinstall them in order for the TX sensor to be in the middle and higher up. He may have done it that way if it was a fresh install.
This was before the TX sensor. Even if it's installed in the wrong spot I imagine it must be at least as good as the sensor that was on there before. Whoever did the install probably did not want to dismantle the sensors and reinstall them in order for the TX sensor to be in the middle and higher up. He may have done it that way if it was a fresh install.
One more question though:
when you say you beat photoradar, does this imply that photoRADAR is ACTUALLY photo LiDAR? This is an interesting development that I had not considered if true. And a nice one too!!
Cheers
#23
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If I was doing a brand new install I would definitely put the TX sensor in the middle it's supposed to be the most powerful sensor/jammer. They should make 5 all of them TX lol.
whatever testing I did was before I got the TX sensor. I think some people call it lidar it's a person sitting in a van or truck with a laser and camera. Not a policeman but somebody who works for the city. One time I saw a lady in the ditch and I thought she needed help as I was driving past I saw her aiming her laser gun at me and I started getting notification "dragon eye behind!"
I think my setup will work okay but ideally that TX would be in the middle and higher up as you suggested.
whatever testing I did was before I got the TX sensor. I think some people call it lidar it's a person sitting in a van or truck with a laser and camera. Not a policeman but somebody who works for the city. One time I saw a lady in the ditch and I thought she needed help as I was driving past I saw her aiming her laser gun at me and I started getting notification "dragon eye behind!"
I think my setup will work okay but ideally that TX would be in the middle and higher up as you suggested.
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Here are some pictures of my install. The center is not a TX since it was not available at the time of the install. This setup performed 100% when I tested it with the laserandradar forum members using multiple type guns.
The laser LED is blue and the radar LED is green. I use the mobile app to control the lasers and update the firmware. I did the install myself. The most difficult part was the rear sensors since I have a wagon.
The laser LED is blue and the radar LED is green. I use the mobile app to control the lasers and update the firmware. I did the install myself. The most difficult part was the rear sensors since I have a wagon.
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Here are some pictures of my install. The center is not a TX since it was not available at the time of the install. This setup performed 100% when I tested it with the laserandradar forum members using multiple type guns.
The laser LED is blue and the radar LED is green. I use the mobile app to control the lasers and update the firmware. I did the install myself. The most difficult part was the rear sensors since I have a wagon.
The laser LED is blue and the radar LED is green. I use the mobile app to control the lasers and update the firmware. I did the install myself. The most difficult part was the rear sensors since I have a wagon.