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PeterUbers 07-08-2018 02:59 PM

Guys, thoughts on this? (Scratch ding dent)
 

PeterUbers 07-08-2018 03:00 PM

A lovely thing to stumble across ...happened while car was parked ... people are classy

bumper seems like it can be sprayed and blended and cleared but the rear quarter has subtle subtle linear ding

Jimminez 07-08-2018 06:15 PM

Hard to tell, but seems to need a bit of respray.
Sucks. Happened to me the other day.
Parked at grocery store and someone hit when trying to park next to me. Daughter was in the car and told me immediately only to come out to see guy left. Surprisingly guy returned about 25 min later. Old guy. Says he went to get his wallet.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...5716e75fb.jpeg

PeterUbers 07-08-2018 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by Jimminez (Post 7497223)
Hard to tell, but seems to need a bit of respray.
Sucks. Happened to me the other day.
Parked at grocery store and someone hit when trying to park next to me. Daughter was in the car and told me immediately only to come out to see guy left. Surprisingly guy returned about 25 min later. Old guy. Says he went to get his wallet.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...5716e75fb.jpeg

thanks for the reply! Sorry about your ride as well ...

EddieK 07-08-2018 09:13 PM

Both of your instances suck. I've had it happen to me twice on previous cars. I park way away from civilation when I drive the E63, but there's always that one idiot who still wants to park next to you.

nikon 07-08-2018 09:13 PM

Look for a good body shop. I had a 1” resprayed on my 211. I couldn’t tell the difference.

nikon 07-08-2018 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by EddieK (Post 7497330)
Both of your instances suck. I've had it happen to me twice on previous cars. I park way away from civilation when I drive the E63, but there's always that one idiot who still wants to park next to you.

That is so true!! Lol

PeterUbers 07-08-2018 11:33 PM

I had my palladium e550 done by a Benz certified shop that essentially did a flawless job and the repair was invisible ... I'll try them

thanks guys

S63AMG888 07-09-2018 12:54 AM

Hate it when that happens. Sorry that it happened to you, but i can’t really see clearly from your photos of the damages. Keep in mind that once you report it to your insurance for claim/repairs, it’ll show up on carfax and well the car will depreciate more than our cars already have. Maybe have a reputable paintless dent removal and buff out the scratches will save you more down the rosd vs claim/depreciation/carfax?

FastWgn 07-09-2018 01:18 AM


Originally Posted by EddieK (Post 7497330)
Both of your instances suck. I've had it happen to me twice on previous cars. I park way away from civilation when I drive the E63, but there's always that one idiot who still wants to park next to you.

There is study in human behavior here. I agree 100%. YO park far away and there is always a knuckle head that parks right next to you. And usually in a crappy car, many times a "mom car" (used to be minivan, now HUGE SUV). Clearly not for protecting their own car, but for some reason it viewed as cool. '
It's simply weird.
Of course it's also selective memory. The times we park like that and there is NO car parked next to you, you instantaneously forget....


PeterUbers 07-09-2018 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by S63AMG888 (Post 7497446)
Hate it when that happens. Sorry that it happened to you, but i can’t really see clearly from your photos of the damages. Keep in mind that once you report it to your insurance for claim/repairs, it’ll show up on carfax and well the car will depreciate more than our cars already have. Maybe have a reputable paintless dent removal and buff out the scratches will save you more down the rosd vs claim/depreciation/carfax?

Thanks man for the reply
i plan on keeping this lady for about 7 years ... I wonder how much I'll really lose in depreciation .. I already have a windshield claim on it ... I hate hate paying cash for this stuff especially over $1000


PeterUbers 07-09-2018 12:44 PM

They are estimating $2600

ill pay $500 in deductible

in three years when I get rid of this I'm not sure how much more I'll lose on this claim if on carfax particularly if I'm trading it in for a new one

thoughts?

S63AMG888 07-09-2018 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by PeterUbers (Post 7497757)
They are estimating $2600

ill pay $500 in deductible

in three years when I get rid of this I'm not sure how much more I'll lose on this claim if on carfax particularly if I'm trading it in for a new one

thoughts?

i would first have a reputable paint less dent removal guy look at it and see if he can remove the dent part and a detailer see if he can buff out the scratches. If they say yes, it’ll cost less than your $500 deducible and you’ll get a full detail while your at it and still be around your deductible amount.

if you are keeping the car for 3 years, for sure it’ll show on carfax because even if your insurance don’t report it to carfax, the body shop will or will sell the information of the claim and and someone’s will report it to carfax, either way, it’ll show up on the report.

No matter how long down the road when you either sell it privately or as a trade in, someone will knock off way more than your deductible as in maybe 2-3k.

Best of luck, hate it when it happens and your not even at fault.

S63AMG888 07-09-2018 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by PeterUbers (Post 7497749)


Thanks man for the reply
i plan on keeping this lady for about 7 years ... I wonder how much I'll really lose in depreciation .. I already have a windshield claim on it ... I hate hate paying cash for this stuff especially over $1000


My pleasure and don’t worry about windshield claim, it will not show up on carfax. Replace a few windshields in my days and never seen it show up on the report so no depreciation there.

PeterUbers 07-09-2018 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by S63AMG888 (Post 7497779)


i would first have a reputable paint less dent removal guy look at it and see if he can remove the dent part and a detailer see if he can buff out the scratches. If they say yes, it’ll cost less than your $500 deducible and you’ll get a full detail while your at it and still be around your deductible amount.

if you are keeping the car for 3 years, for sure it’ll show on carfax because even if your insurance don’t report it to carfax, the body shop will or will sell the information of the claim and and someone’s will report it to carfax, either way, it’ll show up on the report.

No matter how long down the road when you either sell it privately or as a trade in, someone will knock off way more than your deductible as in maybe 2-3k.

Best of luck, hate it when it happens and your not even at fault.

great advice thank you

So at this facility they do have a paint less dent removal guy and he said though he can make the dent better there is still a deep scratch not quite down to metal that will need to be filled or sprayed additionally the bumper has some depth to the scratch though it can be overhauled, for it to look perfect or "invisible" then I'll need to pay close to $2500. My thought is that either I pay this $2600 now or later on trade-in and What I CAN control in the future on a new car purchase is negotiation of the new car and to some degree negotiation of the used car value, so I'm thinking I just go through insurance take the Carfax hit and get this done perfectly

thoughts?

PeterUbers 07-09-2018 01:16 PM


PeterUbers 07-09-2018 01:17 PM

I have Allstate as well accident forgiveness so my rate won't go up on this.

Vrodman 07-09-2018 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by S63AMG888 (Post 7497779)


i would first have a reputable paint less dent removal guy look at it and see if he can remove the dent part and a detailer see if he can buff out the scratches. If they say yes, it’ll cost less than your $500 deducible and you’ll get a full detail while your at it and still be around your deductible amount.

if you are keeping the car for 3 years, for sure it’ll show on carfax because even if your insurance don’t report it to carfax, the body shop will or will sell the information of the claim and and someone’s will report it to carfax, either way, it’ll show up on the report.

No matter how long down the road when you either sell it privately or as a trade in, someone will knock off way more than your deductible as in maybe 2-3k.

Best of luck, hate it when it happens and your not even at fault.

Peter,

I wouldn't worry so much about the carfax. What you need to do is fully document the damage as you've done here. If I were buying the car and you explained the carfax with these pics I wouldn't have the slightest worry. It's when you don't know what happened that scares people the most. Also, having done all of my detailing over the years to my cars I am quite good at it and I can tell you that much of what you see will likely rub out. I am guess the black you see is paint transfer from the idiot that hit you and it will come off for sure.

If I were you, I would try what S63 recommends and see how far you can get without paint work. Not sure a paintless dent removal guy can get that long crease out though. If you can get it minimized prior to deciding to proceed with the full paint repair you can take pictures then that will show how insignificant the carfax incident was. Additionally, In case you did not know, if you are really worried about the carfax you can always pay for the damage in full out of pocket. If you do this it will not show up on carfax. Unless somehow you have already reported this to your insurance company and they have documented it. Even in this instance, if they pay nothing they may drop it and not file the carfax.

That's my advice.

Sorry brother this happened to you. Lots of losers in our world unfortunately.

iconoclast 07-09-2018 02:09 PM

I am very particular and meticulous with my vehicles and I would first attempt some paint correction and buffing. I imagine most of that will come right out. Paint would be a last resort and even then I would have to think long and hard if painting would even be worth it.

PeterUbers 07-09-2018 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by Vrodman (Post 7497804)
Peter,

I wouldn't worry so much about the carfax. What you need to do is fully document the damage as you've done here. If I were buying the car and you explained the carfax with these pics I wouldn't have the slightest worry. It's when you don't know what happened that scares people the most. Also, having done all of my detailing over the years to my cars I am quite good at it and I can tell you that much of what you see will likely rub out. I am guess the black you see is paint transfer from the idiot that hit you and it will come off for sure.

If I were you, I would try what S63 recommends and see how far you can get without paint work. Not sure a paintless dent removal guy can get that long crease out though. If you can get it minimized prior to deciding to proceed with the full paint repair you can take pictures then that will show how insignificant the carfax incident was. Additionally, In case you did not know, if you are really worried about the carfax you can always pay for the damage in full out of pocket. If you do this it will not show up on carfax. Unless somehow you have already reported this to your insurance company and they have documented it. Even in this instance, if they pay nothing they may drop it and not file the carfax.

That's my advice.

Sorry brother this happened to you. Lots of losers in our world unfortunately.

thanks man, great advice as always

my insurance agent has been advising me off the books so as not to make anything official ... I worry the diamond white will be hard to blend


PeterUbers 07-09-2018 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by iconoclast (Post 7497840)
I am very particular and meticulous with my vehicles and I would first attempt some paint correction and buffing. I imagine most of that will come right out. Paint would be a last resort and even then I would have to think long and hard if painting would even be worth it.

What type of shop can do paint correction? Thanks for the reply

iconoclast 07-09-2018 04:53 PM

Any high end detailing outfit in your area should be able to handle it.

Vrodman 07-09-2018 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by PeterUbers (Post 7498011)


thanks man, great advice as always

my insurance agent has been advising me off the books so as not to make anything official ... I worry the diamond white will be hard to blend


Peter,

I really don't believe you will have any issue blending that Diamond White. The repair shop will simply get a pint code from your vin or dealer. I would agree if you had a red 12 year old car that matching would be tough. But I strongly doubt you will have anything to worry about. AGAIN, I also recommend you get it rubbed out and cleaned up as far as you can without any new paint. I would then take it to a different body shop and show them how minimal the fix needed is. A lot of these shops purposely don't tell you that 80% of the fix can be rubbed out so they can justify the repair cost.

Good Luck

PeterUbers 07-09-2018 05:28 PM

Ok found a dent guy I'll check in with tomorrow who also does paint correction ... well rated

more to come thanks guys

this is way worse and it came out nice:

PeterUbers 07-09-2018 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Vrodman (Post 7498019)
Peter,

I really don't believe you will have any issue blending that Diamond White. The repair shop will simply get a pint code from your vin or dealer. I would agree if you had a red 12 year old car that matching would be tough. But I strongly doubt you will have anything to worry about. AGAIN, I also recommend you get it rubbed out and cleaned up as far as you can without any new paint. I would then take it to a different body shop and show them how minimal the fix needed is. A lot of these shops purposely don't tell you that 80% of the fix can be rubbed out so they can justify the repair cost.

Good Luck

ok will do -- gunna hit two dent detailing guys tomorrow before work and then go back to my collision guys and see what they can do ...thanks!


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