2014 E63 Dyno Results
I had my car on the dyno at Eurocharged in Toronto last week and I figured I would share the results. My car is 2014 E63 with about 59k km on it. I had their stage 2 tune done late last year when they were offering it for the price of the Stage 1 tune. Also had the supporting mods of 2 step colder plugs + filter and primary cat delete done. I didn't get a chance until now to dyno the car and the results were a bit surprising. I obviously don't have baseline numbers to compare to so no way to know my exact gains. Anyway here are my 2nd and 3rd runs on with 94 octane gas.
2nd Run 610whp / 630wtq: https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...0cfd32a434.jpg 3rd Run 620whp / 626 wtq: https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...2a8600c8d9.jpg As it was explained to me, the power kept going up with each run because I simply don't drive the car hard enough and the engine was adjusting with each run (first run was like 590whp). I'm more than happy with how the car feels and drives compared to stock and the wheel hp figure is pretty good as well. The wheel torque is a bit lower than I expected for a stage 2 though. The torque curve is nice and flat so I don't feel all that dissapointed, especially since the car pulls strong and smooth to the redline. Since this is my daily driver, I'm not sure I want to have EC update the tune even though I feel that the supporting mods I did were unnecessary at this power level. |
Very Niceeeeeeee!!!
Lets put it on track and get some real 1/4 mile timing!!! :) |
Originally Posted by cocobeex
(Post 7762960)
Very Niceeeeeeee!!!
Lets put it on track and get some real 1/4 mile timing!!! :) |
Good #'s.. What psi is their stage 2?
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Unless Iron Sheik is talking out of his wazoo, you're putting down his stage 1 horsepower and you're really down on torque. Something doesn't seem right for a stage 2 tune
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Originally Posted by WANTED!!
(Post 7763108)
Unless Iron Sheik is talking out of his wazoo, you're putting down his stage 1 horsepower and you're really down on torque. Something doesn't seem right for a stage 2 tune
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Originally Posted by Lumi
(Post 7763197)
Without seeing or knowing the boost, EC might have capped his tq, but also we dont have a baseline stock dyno for the OP to compare.
While the actual numbers will vary from dyno to dyno, it's been well documented that the tq curve should be higher relative to the hp curve with this tune. Boost would be helpful, as would afr. |
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Originally Posted by WANTED!!
(Post 7763108)
Unless Iron Sheik is talking out of his wazoo, you're putting down his stage 1 horsepower and you're really down on torque. Something doesn't seem right for a stage 2 tune
Car did go 11.2 @ 127.xx :naughty: Best thing you can do is take it to the track to see what it will run! Dyno numbers mean d***!! Iron Sheik |
The torque looks almost like he didn’t go full throttle in the early revs. It should spike much higher when full boost hits and then start to fall. That almost looks like a supercharger tq curve. Or...stock with higher numbers. Boost is obviously there as the hp numbers are strong.
Maybe slippage on the rollers when full boost hits? |
Originally Posted by WANTED!!
(Post 7763108)
Unless Iron Sheik is talking out of his wazoo, you're putting down his stage 1 horsepower and you're really down on torque. Something doesn't seem right for a stage 2 tune
Originally Posted by Lumi
(Post 7763197)
Without seeing or knowing the boost, EC might have capped his tq, but also we dont have a baseline stock dyno for the OP to compare.
Originally Posted by 5soko
(Post 7763022)
Good #'s.. What psi is their stage 2?
Thanks everyone for the input. Next time I'm at EC I will ask them why my results are worse than some of the stage 1 numbers. |
Originally Posted by 1MavRick
(Post 7763277)
The torque looks almost like he didn’t go full throttle in the early revs. It should spike much higher when full boost hits and then start to fall. That almost looks like a supercharger tq curve. Or...stock with higher numbers. Boost is obviously there as the hp numbers are strong.
Maybe slippage on the rollers when full boost hits? |
Originally Posted by dika06
(Post 7763302)
If it slipped I would expect to see some dips and spikes in the graph no?
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
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Originally Posted by ProfessorX
(Post 7763561)
Wow!!!! Your torque is crazy! My AMS tune on a 2012 got me a max torque of 703.....yours is much higher! Nice! Hope you don't get whiplash... lol
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Originally Posted by Iron Sheik
(Post 7763247)
LOL I have no reason to do that! :D
Car did go 11.2 @ 127.xx :naughty: Best thing you can do is take it to the track to see what it will run! Dyno numbers mean d***!! Iron Sheik In all serious, you would be an excellent reference as to how the car should behave on the dyno taking numbers out of the equation. Identical (or close to it) setups, same tuner, and same geography (vicinity toronto). Any chance you could post, or at least PM him, your dyno as a reference? If the car was behaving as it should on the dyno, then yes I fully agree he should take it to the track if this was just a matter of concern over the numbers. |
Originally Posted by dika06
(Post 7763296)
Thanks everyone for the input. Next time I'm at EC I will ask them why my results are worse than some of the stage 1 numbers. |
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...bf77e51e49.jpg
Originally Posted by WANTED!!
(Post 7763711)
Didn't think you were:naughty:
In all serious, you would be an excellent reference as to how the car should behave on the dyno taking numbers out of the equation. Identical (or close to it) setups, same tuner, and same geography (vicinity toronto). Any chance you could post, or at least PM him, your dyno as a reference? If the car was behaving as it should on the dyno, then yes I fully agree he should take it to the track if this was just a matter of concern over the numbers. This is stage 1 CATTED!!! The 2nd run made more power as my cats were clogged up because of the "burble" feature. Whoever is out there thinking of getting the burble feature while having your cats on, please DO NOT!!!!!! It f's up your cats!!! And it's stupid loud! Trying to put things into perspective compared to Stage 2! The OP's dyno seems to hold power better in the higher rpm's! Don't always look at Peak numbers! Iron Sheik |
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