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How good is the AWD on the 2016 E63S?

Old Jun 17, 2022 | 08:40 AM
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How good is the AWD on the 2016 E63S?

Title. Just curious. My dad is looking to purchase a 2016 model soon. Is it as good or near the 2018 model? Thanks!
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Old Jun 17, 2022 | 09:22 AM
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Great link from Peter.

The AWD on the E63 W212 is not really for snow or off-roading. It's more for performance in a good weather scenario. Great traction when doing 1/4 mile, for example. With snow tires, it can be fine in the snow, but you would need snow tires just like you would if the car were RWD.
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Old Jun 17, 2022 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cotmfk
Great link from Peter.

The AWD on the E63 W212 is not really for snow or off-roading. It's more for performance in a good weather scenario. Great traction when doing 1/4 mile, for example. With snow tires, it can be fine in the snow, but you would need snow tires just like you would if the car were RWD.
The snow part is 100% false. These cares are great in snow, as long as you have real tires. Maybe that is what you are saying?
Off-roading is 50/50 false - the issue ther eis all about clearance and of course the risk of scratching up your nice car.
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Old Jun 17, 2022 | 02:23 PM
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Yeah my car is a beast in the winter on snow tires plowing around all the slow and stuck-car pylons
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Old Jun 17, 2022 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
Yeah my car is a beast in the winter on snow tires plowing around all the slow and stuck-car pylons
I think you may be my brother from another mother....
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Old Jun 17, 2022 | 04:37 PM
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What makes a good AWD system?

The front transfer case like to blow seals, mine was replaced at 30K miles under warranty and I think there have been a few threads here as well. Not sure how much HP they can handle but the output shaft and TCU aren't your friend when looking for hard launches out of 1st with a moderate tune.

Handles fine in snow for me but as others have said it's all about the tires and clearance. I'm driving the truck in winter not the garage queen.

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Originally Posted by FastWgn
The snow part is 100% false. These cares are great in snow, as long as you have real tires. Maybe that is what you are saying?
Off-roading is 50/50 false - the issue ther eis all about clearance and of course the risk of scratching up your nice car.
That is what I am saying. Need snow tires.

I've had plenty of cars where you can get by on All seasons (no seasons) in the snow. Not this one.
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I'll have to find the thread where the guy crashed his new e63S wagon in the snow into a utility pole ... on summer tires ...

oh wait here it is

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...e63-wagon.html

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I run sottozero winter tires on my CLS63. And it’s a beast in the snow (Michigan). Actually more worried about other drivers losing control rather than me losing control.
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Old Jun 21, 2022 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
I'll have to find the thread where the guy crashed his new e63S wagon in the snow into a utility pole ... on snow tires ...

oh wait here it is

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...e63-wagon.html

That's quite a story - too bad that the person that bought the car from auction did not follow up with the repair process.
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
Yeah my car is a beast in the winter on snow tires plowing around all the slow and stuck-car pylons
Definitely require winter tires for the winter.

The car has a RWD bias and tends to understeer versus many other AWD systems. For a winter car the limiting factor is ground clearance.

I use the E63s as my winter car and it is a DD in the winter. Does great. Definitely need to have the added traction of winter tires to manage the available torque.

My biggest issue is that I install the winter tires early in the season and keep them on late in the spring as I have zero desire to drive with the 'summer' tires in non-summer conditions.


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Old Jun 21, 2022 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
I'll have to find the thread where the guy crashed his new e63S wagon in the snow into a utility pole ... on snow tires ...

oh wait here it is

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...e63-wagon.html

Said he was on stock tires.. Not winters.
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Said he was on stock tires.. Not winters.
yep my bad .. I meant to say "on summer tires"

thanks for catching that
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