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Old May 13, 2023 | 09:30 PM
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Turbo Coolant Lines Replacment

For those that have replaced the drivers side turbo coolant lines. How much disassembly is required to get to them? From what I can tell it looks like charging pipe and fans?
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Old May 13, 2023 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by yukonsc
For those that have replaced the drivers side turbo coolant lines. How much disassembly is required to get to them? From what I can tell it looks like charging pipe and fans?
I just did this. Tons of info here.

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Excellent. I'll give a read!
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Old May 14, 2023 | 01:49 PM
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Do you think ratcheting e-trox box wrench would solve the issue accessing the bolt on the turbo? Or maybe it doesn't fit between the water fittings.

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Old May 14, 2023 | 03:15 PM
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Do you think ratcheting e-trox box wrench would solve the issue accessing the bolt on the turbo? Or maybe it doesn't fit between the water fittings.
You won’t be able to get it over the bolt due to tight spacing. The issue we ran into is the socket + ratchet made it too tight to back the bolt out. It did not allow us to pivot the wrench over the bolt because of how long the socket was. So we had to shave the socket down to make it shallower. The issue I think you’ll have with an box wrench is that it not going to clear the lines which sit above and below the bolt that’s holding them to the bracket. Basically the bolt is recessed between them in a cavity of sorts. The socket comes out past them giving you clearance to swing a ratchet. You can also use vice grips to hold the socket and remove the bolt that way too if you don’t wanna deal with shaving it down.


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Old May 14, 2023 | 07:29 PM
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Ouch - I see that... okay. I was looking at it again today and I think I am going to leave the radiator hose in place and just pull the fan out for clearance.

The bolt on the turbo looks like the toughest one.....
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Old May 14, 2023 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by yukonsc
Ouch - I see that... okay. I was looking at it again today and I think I am going to leave the radiator hose in place and just pull the fan out for clearance.

The bolt on the turbo looks like the toughest one.....
You won’t be able to remove the fan without disconnecting the driver side upper radiator hose as it goes through/over the fan shroud.




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Old May 14, 2023 | 09:23 PM
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I’ve done this job twice, it’s almost comical how having the right tools will half the job time. The first few tries i welded a shaved socket to a flat piece of metal. This rachet from orielys fits perfectly and makes it a 1 minute removal. I sandwich teflon tape between the bolt and socket to not let it fall off

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Old May 14, 2023 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BenzFan2001
I’ve done this job twice, it’s almost comical how having the right tools will half the job time. The first few tries i welded a shaved socket to a flat piece of metal. This rachet from orielys fits perfectly and makes it a 1 minute removal. I sandwich teflon tape between the bolt and socket to not let it fall off

Yup. Once you do it, you learn a lot. That would definitely make it a sinch to do. We just didn’t have anything like that on hand. BiL is a part-time inventor lol so he was able to craft a solution faster than running to the nearest auto parts store.
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Old May 19, 2023 | 11:51 AM
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Just to clarify...are you using this slim ratchet to remove/install the bolt at turbo, or on front of water pump? I have already replaced the water pump and need to remove the broken turbo coolant lines next...
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Old May 19, 2023 | 11:56 AM
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I used it for the bolt at the turbo
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Old May 20, 2023 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BenzFan2001
I used it for the bolt at the turbo
Bought and used successfully last night, thanks! Now I'm struggling to actually pop the lines out of the turbo! I removed the double line clamp, but these boogers are really stuck in the turbo!
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Old May 20, 2023 | 09:58 AM
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I cut the aluminum line and pried it out with a large screw driver. The turbo is cast iron. It didn't leave a mark.
I'm sure you got it out by now.
It's more difficult to get the top line in.
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Old May 20, 2023 | 12:23 PM
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The best advice i can give you for taking out the fitting to the turbo is to use two pry bars and try pull it straight out, don’t try use more leverage on one side, pull it straight out. I hope this helps
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Old May 20, 2023 | 02:55 PM
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I got the top one out finally, working the bottom one still. I appreciate the advice, though I cannot imagine finding enough space to use two pry bars at the same time! It’s pretty much my huge screwdriver and a string of cuss words lol

Gah I hope this is the only time I do this job
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Old May 20, 2023 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaybird123
I got the top one out finally, working the bottom one still. I appreciate the advice, though I cannot imagine finding enough space to use two pry bars at the same time! It’s pretty much my huge screwdriver and a string of cuss words lol

Gah I hope this is the only time I do this job
In case you have tried, it’s easier to go to it from underneath the vehicle.
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Old Jun 6, 2023 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by CZ 75
In case you have tried, it’s easier to go to it from underneath the vehicle.
I suppose it must be different in the coupe...I have zero access from below, though it sure sounds nice!!

I got both lines fully removed and new lines in place...only to wind up unable to get both new lines seated properly onto the turbo!?!?!
I seated the bottom line first without problem, and then CANNOT fully insert the top line. HOWEVER, it now appears the overlapping bolt piece may be the issue?!

I would really appreciate if someone could double confirm order of install (bottom line then top?), and overlap of bolt wings? it looks like whichever wing isn't first to contact turbo will cause second pipe to not fully seat into turbo?

I hope someone who has done this job understands where I'm at and can chime in....pretty please?
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Just did this job myself. I used some of my mtb shock fork grease on the o-rings. I struggled without it to seat even one. After that they went right in. I also used a small pry bar, pushing the fitting in leaning the bar against the frame rake.
Once they're seated, you can still rotate them to align the bolt. You should be able to get the bolt started without tools. I wiggled the fittings with one hand while trying to align the bolt. This way you know nothing is binding.
I'm so glad I'm through with this.
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i would put a little lubrication on them but definitely don’t force them in too hard, they’re aluminum! mine went in quite easy.
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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 11:41 AM
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I'm doing this job right now and can't get that upper line to seat against the turbo. The bottom feed line seats snugly against the turbo but the top line doesn't due to that overlapping bolt connector, is what it looks like. How did you solve this issue?
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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 11:55 AM
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I'm doing this job right now and can't get that upper line to seat against the turbo. The bottom feed line seats snugly against the turbo but the top line doesn't due to that overlapping bolt connector, is what it looks like. How did you solve this issue?
a picture would help, i would try use a screwdriver and pry some leverage from the frame rail to push the line in, be conscious of the force you use.
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It was really hard to get the upper return line out of the turbo - I had to use pretty good force to get it out. But I can't remember how snug it was up against the turbo itself. Right now, the tightest I can get it is in the pic, and that's using the same amount of force I had to use to get it out. Should that upper line fit snugly against the turbo like the feed line does?

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The top one will stick a bit out as it overlaps with the bottom tab. If you look at the lines themselves, the top insert that goes into the turbo is a bit longer.
I finished mine yesterday. Looks like yours and there aren't any leaks from the turbo.
After having done this job. If I ever want to buy another car with this engine and they don't have proof that the lines were replaced in the last few years, I am going to ask for a discount to do the lines. The guy at the MB parts counter told me they do this job all the time. He has seen them break at 2 years or at 8 years.

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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 01:08 PM
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i cant look at my car right now, but if the two plates where the bolt goes through are touching id say send it.
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Thanks fellows. I saw that gap and thought when I went to take it loose there wasn't any gap but honestly can't remember. Laying the tube ends side by side with the bolt hole lined up it looks like it would indeed sit in there as pictured, I just find it hard to believe. Seems like they would've built up the top outlet to compensate.. But then again, seems like they wouldn't have made these lines so brittle either.... Thanks - I'm going to send it!
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