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alpinaturbo 12-10-2023 08:59 PM

Fuse/Wiring Schematic-diagram, 2014 E63 S IC Pump
 
While Hard-Wiring IC Pump- to ground to run all the time,

I accidentally grounded pin 87 on Relay, the "Other Yellow Grommet" Red wire with Green stripe,
Instead of Brown with Blue stripe.

Check engine light/limp mode.

Rewired, correctly.
Disconnected battery, to clear CEL.

Trying to check fuses, Pin 87 at Relay : where does it go? Is there a fuse?

I checked fuses 46, and 87, both 7.5 Amp, in trunk, both are fine.

Thank you

Mojo20032004 12-11-2023 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by alpinaturbo (Post 8890257)
While Hard-Wiring IC Pump- to ground to run all the time,

I accidentally grounded pin 87 on Relay, the "Other Yellow Grommet" Red wire with Green stripe,
Instead of Brown with Blue stripe.

Check engine light/limp mode.

Rewired, correctly.
Disconnected battery, to clear CEL.

Trying to check fuses, Pin 87 at Relay : where does it go? Is there a fuse?

I checked fuses 46, and 87, both 7.5 Amp, in trunk, both are fine.

Thank you

I would think if you blew a fuse in that circuit it would have effect on the operation of the intercooler pump. If your pump is working correctly, I would not worry about it, and should only have 1 "shadow" code for the pump being grounded to short.

Also note that the intercooler pump is a separate system from the rest of the coolant system. It's never crosses into the engine coolant side. It has its own tank under the engine cover in the middle of the engine bay. You will not see IAT temps on your dash cluster, all you see there is oil temps and coolant temps. To monitor IAT temps you will need some sort of logger like hp tuners or something similar.

I personally use a gauge called "banks gauge". Plugs into the obd reader and sees everything the ecu sees. Afr, boost, iat, knock, scans for hard codes and other items.

PeterUbers 12-11-2023 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by Mojo20032004 (Post 8890368)
I would think if you blew a fuse in that circuit it would have effect on the operation of the intercooler pump. If your pump is working correctly, I would not worry about it, and should only have 1 "shadow" code for the pump being grounded to short.

Also note that the intercooler pump is a separate system from the rest of the coolant system. It's never crosses into the engine coolant side. It has its own tank under the engine cover in the middle of the engine bay. You will not see IAT temps on your dash cluster, all you see there is oil temps and coolant temps. To monitor IAT temps you will need some sort of logger like hp tuners or something similar.

I personally use a gauge called "banks gauge". Plugs into the obd reader and sees everything the ecu sees. Afr, boost, iat, knock, scans for hard codes and other items.

I think he is still in limp mode - he grounded the power side of that relay so up stream a fuse is blown and is affecting more systems it seems

the shadow code of the grounded ic pump (the mod) has to be removed with a scanner like icarsoft - I don't think a battery pull will get rid of it and will remain while the ic pump is grounded obvi

he wants @Valvestud to offer any schematics or diagrams of this relay circuit

can the op clarify what is the current state of his car?
- in limp mode?
- the CEL code? If there is one - I think you're saying a battery pull didn't get rid of this CEL caused by grounding the wrong wire
- other codes behind the ground fault code for ic?
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...939f064aa.jpeg

alpinaturbo 12-11-2023 09:52 AM

Peter is correct

I blew fuse upstream (I hope so😬),

And more things are affected.

I am trying to figure out which ?

kenneyd 12-11-2023 10:10 AM

Here some info.
the relay is labeled as K60.
The power comes from the rear sam fuse box n10/2 from fuse F90 40a via a red wire... however, that spot is blank in the fusebox?
The power goes to the pump via a redblue to the pump m45
The relay is turned on by a the ECU Brnblue wire that gets a ground signal/
The k60 relay gets its switch power from Z7/36 which is labeled "circuit 87 m2e connector sleeve"...... This gets its power from F22 on the rear fuse box, check that next IMO

Im showing the diagram numbers as gf00.19-p-3000-02daa
pe54.21-p-2108-9dad
pe07.08-p-2101-97dae

I also checked my car... on the k60 relay, im getting 12v on pin 30 and 86 i think when the accy on



https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f6f36063d0.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...6a8c43c7f5.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...dacdd19b21.jpg
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alpinaturbo 12-11-2023 10:28 AM

Kenny

fantastic, but am not sure if I still am clear,

check fuse 10?

rear fuse 90 is blank unless it’s elsewhere.

relay k60 should be ok, maybe with contact I can check pins for power?

kenneyd 12-11-2023 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by alpinaturbo (Post 8890472)
Kenny

fantastic, but am not sure if I still am clear,

check fuse 10?

rear fuse 90 is blank unless it’s elsewhere.

relay k60 should be ok, maybe with contact I can check pins for power?

I just made an edit as you posted.
Check f22 in the rear


Also I have a 15a in my f90 on my car






https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...20842d5c0b.jpg

alpinaturbo 12-11-2023 10:55 AM

Thank you Kenny

on a mission 🤗❤️

alpinaturbo 12-11-2023 11:37 AM

Fuse 90 15A is fine.

No solution yet

kenneyd 12-11-2023 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by alpinaturbo (Post 8890514)
Fuse 90 15A is fine.

No solution yet

And f22?

alpinaturbo 12-11-2023 11:54 AM

Got home, checked Fuse 90 15A, is good.

To answer Peter's questions:
can the op clarify what is the current state of his car?
- in limp mode?--> I did not yet turn it on, so am not sure.
- the CEL code? If there is one - I think you're saying a battery pull didn't get rid of this CEL caused by grounding the wrong wire--> I disconnected Battery 30-40sec, still code. Then 20+ minutes, did not try again to turn on, so am not sure if still CEL code.
- other codes behind the ground fault code for ic? I did not pull up any codes.

I am hoping to "fix" what is wrong, before giving "ignition on".

Am disappointed that Fuses 46, 87 and 90, are all good: would have been simple to sort. Its hard to believe that grounding pin on relay did not cause fuse to blow. Since car works, I am hopeful that no other damage could occur.

Unless more ideas come through, will give it contact and see if CEL is on.

alpinaturbo 12-11-2023 01:08 PM

Kenny, F22, I missed that.
On mission again.
Thank you

alpinaturbo 12-11-2023 07:09 PM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f6a153aee.jpeg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...de8544168.jpeg
Kenny fixed it😍


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