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Old Nov 21, 2024 | 03:28 AM
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Do we have intercooler pumps?

Hey everyone, after doing some research I haven’t found a solid answer or thread on our cars intercooler pumps. Do we have a specific one like the e55 010 pump or does ours just flow from the water pump? What do you guys typically see over ambient temperature when cruising on the highway? Trying to gauge if I need a new IC pump or not!

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Several threads in the sticky such as:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...an-logs-3.html

"Coolant" or "water" pump aka "IC pump"

Bosch 010

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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Several threads in the sticky such as:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...an-logs-3.html

"Coolant" or "water" pump aka "IC pump"

Bosch 010
understood, so we do have a IC water pump and a 010 aux pump, is it a pretty difficult thing to change? How high do your guys IAT run cruising over
ambient temps
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Old Nov 21, 2024 | 12:49 PM
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understood, so we do have a IC water pump and a 010 aux pump, is it a pretty difficult thing to change? How high do your guys IAT run cruising over
ambient temps
good discussion on IATs:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-rewiring.html

And video:


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Thanks for the info Peter and I’ve seen the video contemplating doing that small mod too! Here are my logged IAT’s today with descriptions, does it look normal?
Cruising on highway 76 degrees outside
Cruising on highway 76 degrees outside
After it hit 113ish dropped down to 99 and fluctuated up and down there. Seems that’s when the pump turns on
After it hit 113ish dropped down to 99 and fluctuated up and down there. Seems that’s when the pump turns on ( stop and go traffic on highway)
Oil temps etc
Oil temps etc
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What are the conditions where this pump would run when the car is off? I hear it running almost every time I park the car and then sometimes when I unlock it.
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What are the conditions where this pump would run when the car is off? I hear it running almost every time I park the car and then sometimes when I unlock it.
Are you certain that’s not the headlight fans you hear running? They are much more audible on my e63s
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What are the conditions where this pump would run when the car is off? I hear it running almost every time I park the car and then sometimes when I unlock it.
also, if you have the intercooler pump always on modification, it will run for 10 minutes after the car is shut off and also sometimes if you unlock the car, but as mentioned above, I think that this could be your headlight fans that you're actually hearing
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Thanks for the info Peter and I’ve seen the video contemplating doing that small mod too! Here are my logged IAT’s today with descriptions, does it look normal?
Cruising on highway 76 degrees outside
Cruising on highway 76 degrees outside
After it hit 113ish dropped down to 99 and fluctuated up and down there. Seems that’s when the pump turns on
After it hit 113ish dropped down to 99 and fluctuated up and down there. Seems that’s when the pump turns on ( stop and go traffic on highway)
Oil temps etc
Oil temps etc
looks good
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looks good
thanks Peter! Always nice to have you m157 experts around to newcomers! I’m surprised it runs 30 other and is solid lol, e55’s we where happy 10 over
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thanks Peter! Always nice to have you m157 experts around to newcomers! I’m surprised it runs 30 other and is solid lol, e55’s we where happy 10 over
happy to help - and I'm far from an expert! These are great cars that should be enjoyed as you are

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Originally Posted by Jaybird123
Are you certain that’s not the headlight fans you hear running? They are much more audible on my e63s
Originally Posted by PeterUbers
also, if you have the intercooler pump always on modification, it will run for 10 minutes after the car is shut off and also sometimes if you unlock the car, but as mentioned above, I think that this could be your headlight fans that you're actually hearing
Headlight fans?! Hah, who knew? Dad is borrowing the car right now but I plan to check out that relay and take a look at the reservoir to see if the previous owner performed the mod. The sound I hear is the same whirr sound at 7:43 in Kenney's video.
Is that the headlight fans?

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So I listened to the sound in that video at that point, it does sound like the headlight fans, but Kenny seems to indicate that that is the intercooler pump. also it was loudest by the headlight.

My intercooler pump with the always on mod sounds like gurgling and bubbling around that central fluid reservoir that he opened the cap in that video. It is a distinct and different sound, and the headlight fans that sound almost like emergency community tornado sirens.

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Got it. I haven't had the chance to remove the engine cover and check out the central reservoir yet. But I think what I'm hearing is the headlight fans - especially based on your description there. It is a noticeable - but soft - siren-like noise.
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