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Old 07-22-2018, 09:04 PM
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Please post some Dragy or track pace results
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Old 07-23-2018, 06:35 PM
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Will do, guys. Got the car back today for a few days, while we wait for new wheel bolts. The car is super strong and beastly. I would say it's a worthwhile upgrade so far. It's a totally different car for sure. You can def hear the turbos spool now in a big way...more than any turbo car I've had thus far. It's a beast. Really

I do have a dragy and will get some times.
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Old 07-24-2018, 07:24 AM
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Picking up a W213 in a few weeks and also going with Pure upgrade, catless, and tune.

what tires do you recommend? I want to make some 1/4 mile passes.
Old 07-25-2018, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by apsuard
Picking up a W213 in a few weeks and also going with Pure upgrade, catless, and tune.

what tires do you recommend? I want to make some 1/4 mile passes.
Congrats. You'll love it for sure.

Mine came with michelin ps4s. My new 21 inch wheels have michelin pilot super sports on them. Both great wet/dry street tires, ps4s being the newer and superior version. For 1/4 mile passes, they are both ok, but not great....you'll def have some wheelspin with either. If you're going to have separate tires for 1/4 mile passes, something like the r888 would be good, but be careful with that much traction...trans issues and drivetrain issues may show up.
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Originally Posted by Ralcbah
Congrats. You'll love it for sure.

Mine came with michelin ps4s. My new 21 inch wheels have michelin pilot super sports on them. Both great wet/dry street tires, ps4s being the newer and superior version. For 1/4 mile passes, they are both ok, but not great....you'll def have some wheelspin with either. If you're going to have separate tires for 1/4 mile passes, something like the r888 would be good, but be careful with that much traction...trans issues and drivetrain issues may show up.
I think I will stick with MPS4S so I don’t have drivetrain issues. What do you think of PURE upgrade? Debating if I do Renntech tune with downpipes or go PURE route with DME tune and downpipes. Deciding how far I want to push it.
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Originally Posted by apsuard


I think I will stick with MPS4S so I don’t have drivetrain issues. What do you think of PURE upgrade? Debating if I do Renntech tune with downpipes or go PURE route with DME tune and downpipes. Deciding how far I want to push it.
I went from tune only straight to this setup, so I cant really compare. Talk to Mo at dme....he has a stage 2 w213 amg and a client of his has a setup like mine, or did, but I beleive hes added nitrous now.

You could go stage 2, and if not enough then upgrade turbos. Might cost you a bit more on the software side, but certainly a viable option.

I will tell you this....tune only to hybrid turbos is a big jump in performance.
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Originally Posted by Ralcbah
I went from tune only straight to this setup, so I cant really compare. Talk to Mo at dme....he has a stage 2 w213 amg and a client of his has a setup like mine, or did, but I beleive hes added nitrous now.

You could go stage 2, and if not enough then upgrade turbos. Might cost you a bit more on the software side, but certainly a viable option.

I will tell you this....tune only to hybrid turbos is a big jump in performance.
Thanks for the feedback! I really appreciate it. I have owned two F10 M5s with stage 2 tunes so I know what you mean. Downpoes and tune have completely changed car. I think I might stick with downpipes and tune (at least to start). PURE upgrade worries me from a drivetrain perspective.
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Thanks for the feedback! I really appreciate it. I have owned two F10 M5s with stage 2 tunes so I know what you mean. Downpoes and tune have completely changed car. I think I might stick with downpipes and tune (at least to start). PURE upgrade worries me from a drivetrain perspective.
ah...very cool. Almost ended up with an f90 because I enjoyed the f10 and whatever the m6gc name is so much.

....makes sense to stage it out. I just went all in because i didnt want my car in the shop making iterative changes. My last e63 was built over two years and it felt like it was always in the shop for modding.

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Originally Posted by Ralcbah
ah...very cool. Almost ended up with an f90 because I enjoyed the f10 and whatever the m6gc name is so much.

....makes sense to stage it out. I just went all in because i didnt want my car in the shop making iterative changes. My last e63 was built over two years and it felt like it was always in the shop for modding.
F90 is a beast in tuning. My friend received stage1 piggyback box and installed only primary decatted pipes (not full set) and results are shocking...
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F90 is a beast in tuning. My friend received stage1 piggyback box and installed only primary decatted pipes (not full set) and results are shocking...
Wow. Those numbers are crazy good. Doubt I come close, even with modified turbos.
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Okkkk....finally took the car out to the track.

Conditions: not great, rained a few times and back end of track was ok, but didn't feel super solid. DA between 1700-2800

Pump gas and 21" forged wheels with Michelin Pss tires.

Stock results: 11.3-4 @ 120mph. Pump gas
Weistec tune: 11.0 @ 126mph. Race gas
Pure 900 turbos, UPD catless downpipes, green filters, and DME tune: 10.86@ 128.5 mph. Pump gas

Looking forward to running it again. Next time will raise car, as it was slammed with too much neg camber, and will add some race fuel to see if we can grab .1s and 2mph or so. Also, looking forward to the half mile races, which is where the car will really shine.

The below run is me against a stock Dodge Demon (not upgraded with the demon crate yet and also not using trans brake). Im the 11 car. The guy was super cool, and into his ride, and is learning to run it...just FYI.



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Good run for the current FL conditions.....if this was Orl speedworld I'm sure DA was 2000+...better conditions should yield 130+ with 10.6ish (or better).
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Good run for the current FL conditions.....if this was Orl speedworld I'm sure DA was 2000+...better conditions should yield 130+ with 10.6ish (or better).
Yeah bud. The crew did a nice job of keeping the track safe, but still not ideal conditions. Will def try again at some point. Maybe after the 'every day 5pm rains' stop. No trans issues thus far. First two runs were not using launch control....kinda slowly accelerated. This one the last run, and I did use lc.
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Did 10.68 with dp dme stage 3 tune and pure turbo
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Originally Posted by Pat_63
Did 10.68 with dp dme stage 3 tune and pure turbo
Nicceeeeeee! That's awesome man. Would love to get a 10.6 myself. Hopefully will see one at some point. Your 60ft is fantastic....you on oem tires/wheels?
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Nicceeeeeee! That's awesome man. Would love to get a 10.6 myself. Hopefully will see one at some point. Your 60ft is fantastic....you on oem tires/wheels?
yes stock wheels and pump gas
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yes stock wheels and pump gas
Cool. I'll put the 20s back on next time and run some race gas....see if we can do a little better.
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Great results guys!

Didn’t Renntech claim a 10.6 with tune only? Is that marketing bs?

Either way it looks like this car and F90 M5 will put down some solid times. I think I read a tuned M5 had 134 trap
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Originally Posted by apsuard
Great results guys!

Didn’t Renntech claim a 10.6 with tune only? Is that marketing bs?

Either way it looks like this car and F90 M5 will put down some solid times. I think I read a tuned M5 had 134 trap
Real time with real customer is the only way to know
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Originally Posted by Pat_63
Real time with real customer is the only way to know
Debating between Renntech and EC tunes when I pickup the car. Unless I go Pure than I will go DME. Renntech is so damn expensive. Ridiculous for just a tune. I thought M Tax was bad!
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If interested in seeing some professional photos of the car with new wheels, check out the below link.

Also, car is going back under the knife for additional upgrades...we gonna make some more power, but need more fueling. Couple weeks...

http://www.bcforged-na.com/project/f...amg-s-21-rz15/

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