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Old 12-18-2017, 12:31 PM
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There's also the lighter unsprung weight of the CCBs to consider. Would be interesting to drive two E63S back to back on the same road, one with, and one without CCBs.

The steels might be pretty cooked too after a Ronin-esque canyon run ;-)
I did another little cruise in the canyons yesterday and noticed how much hot brake odor there is when I pulled over to look at the view.
Now this is light braking on the uphill section, this is not beating the sucker and getting hard on the brakes. I try to be as smooth as possible and now I'm wondering if it is due to the traction control being aggressive with the ESP system.
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That’s a good point. My jeep’s rear brakes had more wear than the front as a result traction control engagement in loose stuff.

I could see the Merc braking one wheel or another there as you’re picking up the throttle on corner exits.
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Ya, I would not go by their stopping distance in the review, 116 ft is crazy, should not be that long.
Agree, Motorweek just got 112 feet stopping distance with the G wagon 4x4 lifted version! Something isn't right.
http://www.motorweek.org/reviews/roa...50-4x4-squared
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http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/mercede...s7-performance

here, it says 60mph-0 ... 109 feet
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and at 70 to zero it actually stops shorter than the RS7...
Old 12-18-2017, 01:53 PM
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Good review, the AMG kicked butt against the Audi. One thing I'd not heard of is this “E 63 owners get a free driver training package so they can safely learn to explore the car’s limits. With 604bhp and rear-wheel-drive-only potential, it’s a worthwhile exercise.” was never notified of this, I'd like to take this course, it would be interesting. Also under comments under test some guy says the engine in the new AMG shares a lot of the parts with the CLA 45 and there have been a lot of failures on Italy race courses. I wonder if that story has any merit to it?
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I believe that one trip to the AMG driving academy is included with the purchase of the E63.
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I believe that one trip to the AMG driving academy is included with the purchase of the E63.
Was told the same from my dealer here. I believe you have one year to do it, from delivery date...so I'm told.
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I think you guys should not worry about the 60-0 distance but brake fade coming down a mountain pass.
Hell there is brake fade just from the ESP after climbing up the pass.
I've never needed to stop from 60-0 in a panic in over 47 yrs of driving but I have used brakes to slow down over and over again and have expected the peddle to feel the same after each application and the 2018 E63s AMG with CCBs does not instill confidence in my opinion..
A b****in car but s**te brakes is all I can say.

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Don’t trust anything these car magazine shows say. They make a lot of errors and reuse old data because they are on tight schedules. They use press cars that may have been beaten on (and sometimes press cars are spiced up by manufacturers, too) and certain reviewers and magazines have their own agendas.

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Small powerful SUV is faster than E63.
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Small powerful SUV is faster than E63.
Now that is interesting because Mercedes has been signaling that the GLC63S Coupe will beat the Stelvio Quad.
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Now that is interesting because Mercedes has been signaling that the GLC63S Coupe will beat the Stelvio Quad.
does not look good when an SUV beats a sedan/wagon. Mercedes don't get weight management!
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The Mercedes E63 Amg wagon (2018) was 7:45 thats 6 seconds faster than the Stelvio Quad. http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...rgring-record/ The last Gen E63 Amg (2013) went 7:55. 10 seconds slower and 4 seconds slower than the Alfa. That Alfa does look really fast though.

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Originally Posted by 2012 merc amg
The Mercedes E63 Amg wagon (2018) was 7:45 thats 6 seconds faster than the Stelvio Quad. http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...rgring-record/ The last Gen E63 Amg (2013) went 7:55. 10 seconds slower and 4 seconds slower than the Alfa. That Alfa does look really fast though.
And if you watch the run that the E63S wagon took, I think it could have shaved another 5-10sec off the time... seemed a bit sloppy. The Alfa driver left nothing to be desired and took tight corners every time possible.

Impressive drive nonetheless.
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Has Mercedes AMG ever booked out the Nurburgring to try and set records?
I thought all the AMG times were set by local Magazine Editors vs Factory teams with professional drivers?

why does the alfa have a roll cage in if its supposed to be stock?

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Can I please get a link to this confounded video LOL
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You mean the one posted above?


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Can I please get a link to this confounded video LOL
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You mean the one posted above?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NGjb8WHIDM

No sorry the original one that this thread is about--- its apparently still a subscription only video.
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Ya I’d say the Alfa was modified.
Originally Posted by sighting
Has Mercedes AMG ever booked out the Nurburgring to try and set records?
I thought all the AMG times were set by local Magazine Editors vs Factory teams with professional drivers?

why does the alfa have a roll cage in if its supposed to be stock?
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Not sure why anyone bothers to show the Alfa here. No relevance. It's fast but slower than the AMG. I like Alfas but they have a terrible reputation for reliability anywhere and that's not just the old models.
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Finally the video--- although biased, the reasons I have the E63S are also sections where it shined. I get why it didnt win (losing by 0.02 seconds) on BW but AWD, Launch, Skidpad, Exhaust Noise, Rolling speed, etc are reasons Im happy. With all that, the Caddy is a worthy competitor and its even more attractive when pricing is rolled in.


Edit, thanks BC-2 it was only .02 seconds LOL

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Finally the video--- although biased, the reasons I have the E63S are also sections where it shined. I get why it didnt win (losing by 0.2 seconds) on BW but AWD, Launch, Skidpad, Exhaust Noise, Rolling speed, etc are reasons Im happy. With all that, the Caddy is a worthy competitor and its even more attractive when pricing is rolled in.
I believe it was 0.02. A whopping two one hundredths of a second!
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I like the CTS V and wouldn't mind owning one. However, I didn't even bother considering one before buying my E63 S. It just doesn't have the refinement and amenities I was looking for that the E63 S has. At lease for me.


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