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My E63S just arrived to the port today so I should be taking delivery within the next week or two so I have been looking into window tint. One of the options I ordered was the "Acoustic Comfort Package". Here is a portion of the description from Mercedes:
"The windshield and front door windows are all laminated with an acoustic membrane. The windshield and rear window are also infrared-absorbing, helping to block outside noise and the sun's harsh rays."
My questions is, should I bother with Ceramic window tint because the front and rear windows are "infrared-absorbing" and just go with a good quality non-ceramic tint? The way it's worded, it sounds like the side windows are not infrared-absorbing (just the windshield and rear window). Or, would Ceramic tint help block out more infrared rays? Maybe just add Ceramic to the side windows but I don't know if that would look different from the front and rear window. Did anyone with the Acoustic Comfort Package tint their windows with Ceramic or regular tint?
I have the ACP and still used ceramic tint on the windows... no way I was going to take a chance without it. Im driving around today in 73 degree weather (SoCal) and the car is still hot inside after facing the sun for a few hours with the tint and the ACP:
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Between LLumar and Huper Optik in terms of warranty or installation problems, I would go with LLumar. There are tons of LLumar authorized shops nationwide and any of them can take care of problems with the film or installations as long as it's originally installed at an authorized shop. Not so with Huper Optik; iirc you have to go back to the original shop that installed it.
We have the Acoustic Comfort package on our E63S including the infrared glass but still could feel too much solar gain within the interior. We had Huper Optik tint on our 2005 E Wagon and it looked and worked as perfectly after 13 years as it did when new so we put Huper Optik on our new E63S wagon too. Huper Optik KKAR 85 on the front windshield, Huper Optik Ceramic 70 on the driver and passenger windows, and Huper Optik Ceramic 30 on the rest of the windows (including the sunroofs). Thanks to Richard at All American Window Tinting in Denver for a flawless and invisible installation!
My E63S just arrived to the port today so I should be taking delivery within the next week or two so I have been looking into window tint. One of the options I ordered was the "Acoustic Comfort Package". Here is a portion of the description from Mercedes:
"The windshield and front door windows are all laminated with an acoustic membrane. The windshield and rear window are also infrared-absorbing, helping to block outside noise and the sun's harsh rays."
My questions is, should I bother with Ceramic window tint because the front and rear windows are "infrared-absorbing" and just go with a good quality non-ceramic tint? The way it's worded, it sounds like the side windows are not infrared-absorbing (just the windshield and rear window). Or, would Ceramic tint help block out more infrared rays? Maybe just add Ceramic to the side windows but I don't know if that would look different from the front and rear window. Did anyone with the Acoustic Comfort Package tint their windows with Ceramic or regular tint?
Side windows are infrared absorbing. I ended up having 40% 3M Crystalline installed on my wagon. Works too well, that so far this winter the wagon doesn't heat up with the help of the sun, have to wait for the heater to heat up the interior space. I'm sure come summer I'll be happy the wagon isn't burning up from the sun though.
I have the ACP on my wagon as well. So from what I've read there's no harm in tinting the windows, correct?
Originally Posted by WalterRoss
We have the Acoustic Comfort package on our E63S including the infrared glass but still could feel too much solar gain within the interior. We had Huper Optik tint on our 2005 E Wagon and it looked and worked as perfectly after 13 years as it did when new so we put Huper Optik on our new E63S wagon too. Huper Optik KKAR 85 on the front windshield, Huper Optik Ceramic 70 on the driver and passenger windows, and Huper Optik Ceramic 30 on the rest of the windows (including the sunroofs). Thanks to Richard at All American Window Tinting in Denver for a flawless and invisible installation!
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Any particular reason you did the sunroof? I thought the SR is already tinted from the factory?
Just a follow up to my OP, I ended up getting tint on all the windows except the windshield and sunroof. I went with Crystalline 20% and discovered that it did in fact further reduce heat. So IMO, it is worth getting ceramic tint, even if you have the Acoustic Comfort Package.
Just a follow up to my OP, I ended up getting tint on all the windows except the windshield and sunroof. I went with Crystalline 20% and discovered that it did in fact further reduce heat. So IMO, it is worth getting ceramic tint, even if you have the Acoustic Comfort Package.
I have the ACP and was wondering if there was any harm adding tint to the windows. Since tint "reflects" the heat and the ACP has a "heat absorbing mebrane" I was curious to know if anyone was having problems with this? I have currently had two window tint installers tell me it was not a good idea and a third is trying to get a confirmation with the tint manufacturer if it should be done. I'm assuming it will NOT be a problem but why did two installers tell me it would not a good idea.
I have the same acoustic package, which I love and I did high end ceramic all around. One fun, not so funny thing about the infrared-absorbing windows, I have to put my gate clicker out the window to get the gate to open into our neighborhood, or pull up very close for it to work if windows are closed. Not an issue for the garage doors bc they are programmed in the Mercedes buttons. Front 55% Looking thru front window 35% driver side and passenger side Back sides and rear window at 5%
I have the same acoustic package, which I love and I did high end ceramic all around. One fun, not so funny thing about the infrared-absorbing windows, I have to put my gate clicker out the window to get the gate to open into our neighborhood, or pull up very close for it to work if windows are closed. Not an issue for the garage doors bc they are programmed in the Mercedes buttons.
There are a couple spots which are identified in the owners manual where RFID tags, remote controls, and radar detectors, etc. can be placed. With light at the right angle you can see the areas when standing outside the car looking back at the windshield.
I did some testing the past weekend at a number of frequencies from around 1 GHz to 6 GHz on how much attenuation the windshield presents to RF signals. RFID tags typically operate around 915 MHz and some cellular and 5G signals are in the range I tested as well. I didn't have a good frequency source to test above 6 GHz but will get around to that.
What I did find is the windshield does present more than 10 dB of attenuation depending on what frequency is being considered and the attenuation increased as the frequency got higher.
There was a 5G industry article on this not long ago regarding comparison testing of different 5G services and in order to do apples to apples comparisons they were looking to come up with standard values for losses through various media, and newer automobile glass was one of them. It was noted that 5G has a pretty tough time penetrating some of the newer windshields - and probably some side glass too.
I imagine some tinting files will be worse than others, as is the impact to some 5G bands - the 28 GHz mmW 5G used by Verizon is pretty much blocked by about anything. So good luck if you're trying to use that inside the car
There are a couple spots which are identified in the owners manual where RFID tags, remote controls, and radar detectors, etc. can be placed. With light at the right angle you can see the areas when standing outside the car looking back at the windshield.
I did some testing the past weekend at a number of frequencies from around 1 GHz to 6 GHz on how much attenuation the windshield presents to RF signals. RFID tags typically operate around 915 MHz and some cellular and 5G signals are in the range I tested as well. I didn't have a good frequency source to test above 6 GHz but will get around to that.
What I did find is the windshield does present more than 10 dB of attenuation depending on what frequency is being considered and the attenuation increased as the frequency got higher.
There was a 5G industry article on this not long ago regarding comparison testing of different 5G services and in order to do apples to apples comparisons they were looking to come up with standard values for losses through various media, and newer automobile glass was one of them. It was noted that 5G has a pretty tough time penetrating some of the newer windshields - and probably some side glass too.
I imagine some tinting files will be worse than others, as is the impact to some 5G bands - the 28 GHz mmW 5G used by Verizon is pretty much blocked by about anything. So good luck if you're trying to use that inside the car
RFID tags are basically useless on my 2021 S580. I’ve tried putting them in the “approved” areas on both the inside and outside of the window and neither works. If I roll down the driver’s window and put the tag outside the vehicle by 3-4 inches then it works
Living in FL this is a PIA as we get frequent heavy rain
12-27-2017, 04:59 PM
