S63AMG888

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What is better. VF/EC/AMR?

limeypride

There's a lot of content literally posted in the past day or two on this--dig a little; you'll find a great deal of info.

As to your question: I'm not sure what you're expecting from the responses that might help you: we all love our tunes so for VF and EC, you'll likely get glowing reviews (you'll get that from me for EC); nobody has had all three (assertion on my part) so nobody can compare/contrast; AMR has only just entered the picture and neither I nor anyone else has data beyond their own posts; what does "better" equate to to you... launch, 1/4 mile, drivability combined with increased power?

EuroCharged is a great option--it's the tune I chose so I'm a walking incarnation of the stereotype I mentioned above.

PS: I don't know anything about VF's tune but Parker claims his E63S hit 60 in 2.8s stock (I'm beyond skeptical about that number) so I'm not sure what to make of anything else he cites post-tune.

Vic55

Parkers vid is clearly down hill and was posted here... so you are correct in your thoughts.

VF is my local tuner for my Audi R8 and my departed F10 M5 and F82 M4. I know the team there personally and they are 2nd to none when it comes to service, experience, and are very fair in pricing. I text the owner Tuesday and he will dyno my car with the shelf OE tune to see what it pulls. Their in house dyno is a "heartbreaker" Mustang dyno so we shall see (with load and to all 4 wheels).

On my F10 M5, I went with another tuner first which sold their product based on brilliant dyno sheets. My car would heat soak after just 3 hard runs whereas VF took my car and built a usable daily tune that could withstand my repeated aggressive drving. I didnt get any heat soak but instead could run the car for 30 plus minutes on the mexican toll roads well into the mid 100 mph ranges over and over and over. They are actually even better known for their amazing superchargers on the Gen 1 and Gen 2 R8's and the tunes associated with them. I think they are very trustworthy for a true usable tune but have not tried the E63S version.

TE63s

I have started to look into these options myself as I come to an end of my break in miles. In my opinion, I believe it comes down to how far you are going to go with your car. From what I have seen here, AMR has the highest power stage 1 with the amazing results they posted the other day. I am not the type of person that will upgrade pipes and start hacking at my car mechanically, so I am personally leaning toward AMR, as I think I will get the most of a stage 1 with them and be happy with it.

In addition, AMR may be new to this section of the forum, but most definitely not new to Mercedes. I did some scoping of their social media and it is literally all Mercedes with the occasional mix of other Euro vehicles, so that is uplifting to know.

More research is going to be done before I choose, but I am pretty confident in saying I will be pulling the trigger soon. Anyone else feel the same way?

S63AMG888

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Thank you for your responds and understand the question has no definite answer or a comparable result from all 3 listed tuners. I came from the E63s and with all the tuning options that is not offered for MY17 S63. I guess I am looking for a tune that is the best bang for the buck deal. There are so many discussion about this and what is important to me is that tuners like Renntech offers some kind of warranty in case something did go wrong on their tune that they will back their products if the problem is proof to be related to the tune, but conflicting stories is steering me away from what I call brand name tuners like Renntech and AMS. My questions is since I have narrow down to the caption tuners, which tuners is more reliable for a DD. EC has been praised many many time over than its VF and AMR counterparts. I'm looking at personal experiences with these tuners for the M157 platform because it is my understand that AMR and VF are relatively new to the M157 or M177 platform, but the price and performance seems to be comparable between all 3 tuners?.


I am not looking to upgrade turbos so ECU, downpipes and maybe exhaust system on the performance side. Not looking to make my car the fastest S63 or tracking the car, but at lease I can keep up with the big boys.

On a side note, it is my understanding that some of you guys also came from the W212 E63, I know for a fact the technology, engine, transmission and a facelift design is better on the W213 than the W212. One question I have is what OEM exhaust note do you guys prefer, the W212 or W213 E63s? When I test drove the MY2018 S63, I thought the MY17 S63 has a more aggressive exhaust note at lease in comfort mode?

Thank you.

loungn14

sent ya a message

kponti

IS AMR related in any way to Alpha Performance???

munis

You mean the Nissan GTR tuners? No, different companies. The Alpha guys are legit.

limeypride

Subtle--I love it!

S63AMG888

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The Alpha is the bread and butter of AMS that tunes insane Nissan GTR and some fast AMGs.

S63AMG888

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Thank you Jake.