900hp DME/Pureturbo only runs 10.8
08-07-2018, 10:08 AM
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Measured myself by using Dragy on public road. bmw M5 first edition . Piggy back provided by Manhart,Germany. They promised 100-200kmh from standstill 5.9. Real results met their promises. From rolling it reaches 100-200 in 5.5s. Fuel used 100Ron from petrol station.
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08-07-2018, 10:23 AM
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The 60ft is not good enough. This car has the ability to launch way harder. May be something is wrong? Or needs a driver mod.
Also as far as I know, these new ECUs have atleast 3 separate torque limiters which is calculated from the manifold airflow. If they are not adjusted properly the throttle might close or boost will drop in higher gears depending on the which limiter was not adjusted properly.
Was the tranny reinforced for this car? A TCU update would go far with this car too. In the new generations of MB, it is the tranny that is the bottle neck.
Also as far as I know, these new ECUs have atleast 3 separate torque limiters which is calculated from the manifold airflow. If they are not adjusted properly the throttle might close or boost will drop in higher gears depending on the which limiter was not adjusted properly.
Was the tranny reinforced for this car? A TCU update would go far with this car too. In the new generations of MB, it is the tranny that is the bottle neck.
08-07-2018, 10:30 AM
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What the eff! That thing is a freaking rocketship! Can't even imagine the numbers burger will come up with. Bootmod will probably get this car to high 9s then. My love for AMGs is unfaltering but I can see where chiromikey's frustration is coming from. The entire AMG platform is really not that mod friendly if you compare it to this M5 doing this with a piggy only. Well atleast they put the ECU on the top of the engine on the E63s, haha.
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08-07-2018, 10:45 AM
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What the eff! That thing is a freaking rocketship! Can't even imagine the numbers burger will come up with. Bootmod will probably get this car to high 9s then. My love for AMGs is unfaltering but I can see where chiromikey's frustration is coming from. The entire AMG platform is really not that mod friendly if you compare it to this M5 doing this with a piggy only. Well atleast they put the ECU on the top of the engine on the E63s, haha.
we have 10.37 not even on stage2 map file. And not full downpipes set , only upper decat.
amg is tuning friendly, it’s all about tuners who can’t unlock and bypass torque limiters in transmission. Without it being remap , car will not produce more torque than transmission allows to and will lead to possible damage. Greater than allowed amount of torque will lead transmission transfer box to adopt to default numbers set by factory. Same happened on my 212, when I had 1150 Nm of torque on dyno, when pushing “kick down” on high speeds I had “check engine” light, code says torque exceeds limit. After transmission remap it got solved.
PS f90 dme connection aka ecu is not hidden anywhere. It’s under the mesh on the top left when looking at the engine.
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08-07-2018, 11:14 AM
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I saw JB4 results. They are so bad... 10.8 on piggy back lol.
we have 10.37 not even on stage2 map file. And not full downpipes set , only upper decat.
amg is tuning friendly, it’s all about tuners who can’t unlock and bypass torque limiters in transmission. Without it being remap , car will not produce more torque than transmission allows to and will lead to possible damage. Greater than allowed amount of torque will lead transmission transfer box to adopt to default numbers set by factory. Same happened on my 212, when I had 1150 Nm of torque on dyno, when pushing “kick down” on high speeds I had “check engine” light, code says torque exceeds limit. After transmission remap it got solved.
PS f90 dme connection aka ecu is not hidden anywhere. It’s under the mesh on the top left when looking at the engine.
08-07-2018, 12:00 PM
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How is the new E63s not comfort and power? Am I missing something or are you just stuck in the past with the E55 hating on newer AMG out of jealousy?? I don't understand.
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08-07-2018, 03:01 PM
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Don’t get me wrong, I love Mercedes and AMG in general, but come on, some are trying too hard to make a 4 door sedan into a Lamb, Porsche, etc. These are 2 door super fast off the bat sports cars vs I call my AMG a sport sedan. If one really want to break the fastest AMG record, I think most are on the wrong platform, maybe the AMG GTs R are a more suitable comparison or even worth trying. Just saying.
08-07-2018, 03:09 PM
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I’m perplexed as to how fast people want this car to go?
I am going to be delighted with 0-62 in 3.5 secs, probably 3.3-3.4 in reality and maybe 3.0 with a tune.
Thats plenty fast for me given I’m 95% going to drive on a road with other cars that I’m not planning on racing or killing!
I am going to be delighted with 0-62 in 3.5 secs, probably 3.3-3.4 in reality and maybe 3.0 with a tune.
Thats plenty fast for me given I’m 95% going to drive on a road with other cars that I’m not planning on racing or killing!
08-07-2018, 04:00 PM
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Jealous how? If the W213 ended up being what I wanted I’d buy one. The W212 is horrible over sharp road imperfections and because of such is a rattletrap comparatively speaking. I’m not stuck in the past but the W211, while lacking modern technology, is a much more comfortable ride than the W212. And by nearly all accounts so far the W213 is even more harsh than the W212. If you disagree you’re in denial or maybe like you suggested, you are missing something...
08-07-2018, 04:01 PM
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I’m perplexed as to how fast people want this car to go?
I am going to be delighted with 0-62 in 3.5 secs, probably 3.3-3.4 in reality and maybe 3.0 with a tune.
Thats plenty fast for me given I’m 95% going to drive on a road with other cars that I’m not planning on racing or killing!
I am going to be delighted with 0-62 in 3.5 secs, probably 3.3-3.4 in reality and maybe 3.0 with a tune.
Thats plenty fast for me given I’m 95% going to drive on a road with other cars that I’m not planning on racing or killing!
08-07-2018, 04:45 PM
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Most would probably be happy if they matched Leah Pritchett's run . . .
https://motorsports.nbcsports.com/20...d-time-record/
She was one of the instructors at the AMG Academy at Laguna Seca this spring. My instructor was actually Pippa Mann, which was pretty cool, my wife was really stoked to meet her and ride with her on a Pro lap.
Anyway, too much is almost enough when it comes to modding cars and bikes . . .
https://motorsports.nbcsports.com/20...d-time-record/
She was one of the instructors at the AMG Academy at Laguna Seca this spring. My instructor was actually Pippa Mann, which was pretty cool, my wife was really stoked to meet her and ride with her on a Pro lap.
Anyway, too much is almost enough when it comes to modding cars and bikes . . .
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For me, as fast as it can--I love the feeling of accelerating from a dig and doing that in sub-3-seconds is even more addictive. To each their own I guess but I've yet to drive a car that I would say is "fast enough"--perhaps that new Tesla Roadster will do it for me... but I doubt it.
08-07-2018, 05:04 PM
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I had a Tesla for a bit, the acceleration was great but soulless and to be honest, my driving situations meant the acceleration became a bit of a party trick rather than something I used a lot.
Dont get me wrong, the acceleration is a big draw and actually the way the AMG does it, perhaps the transmission was a big tick v the M5 which was different and more linear.
I will look to tune mine but if it doesn’t get to 2.8 secs etc, I think I’ll live!
Dont get me wrong, the acceleration is a big draw and actually the way the AMG does it, perhaps the transmission was a big tick v the M5 which was different and more linear.
I will look to tune mine but if it doesn’t get to 2.8 secs etc, I think I’ll live!
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I’m perplexed as to how fast people want this car to go?
I am going to be delighted with 0-62 in 3.5 secs, probably 3.3-3.4 in reality and maybe 3.0 with a tune.
Thats plenty fast for me given I’m 95% going to drive on a road with other cars that I’m not planning on racing or killing!
I am going to be delighted with 0-62 in 3.5 secs, probably 3.3-3.4 in reality and maybe 3.0 with a tune.
Thats plenty fast for me given I’m 95% going to drive on a road with other cars that I’m not planning on racing or killing!
08-08-2018, 10:57 AM
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Jealous how? If the W213 ended up being what I wanted I’d buy one. The W212 is horrible over sharp road imperfections and because of such is a rattletrap comparatively speaking. I’m not stuck in the past but the W211, while lacking modern technology, is a much more comfortable ride than the W212. And by nearly all accounts so far the W213 is even more harsh than the W212. If you disagree you’re in denial or maybe like you suggested, you are missing something...
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I’m perplexed as to how fast people want this car to go?
I am going to be delighted with 0-62 in 3.5 secs, probably 3.3-3.4 in reality and maybe 3.0 with a tune.
Thats plenty fast for me given I’m 95% going to drive on a road with other cars that I’m not planning on racing or killing!
I am going to be delighted with 0-62 in 3.5 secs, probably 3.3-3.4 in reality and maybe 3.0 with a tune.
Thats plenty fast for me given I’m 95% going to drive on a road with other cars that I’m not planning on racing or killing!
These car gives you almost Tesla level performance at the track for a whole day almost with a half a tank of gas. Where as Teslas probably have to go back home after 4 or 5 runs because P=V^2/R, so as your ramp it up, power draw becomes exponential. Also no soul. Like none at all.
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Jealous how? If the W213 ended up being what I wanted I’d buy one. The W212 is horrible over sharp road imperfections and because of such is a rattletrap comparatively speaking. I’m not stuck in the past but the W211, while lacking modern technology, is a much more comfortable ride than the W212. And by nearly all accounts so far the W213 is even more harsh than the W212. If you disagree you’re in denial or maybe like you suggested, you are missing something...
My wife loves the ride comfort in my e63s wagon and oh yeah she is a "girl". just sayin..
08-08-2018, 12:24 PM
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I can appreciate that you thought your W212 was great. My opinion is different so maybe you can appreciate that as well. If I wanted a car as big as an S class I would have bought one. Trust me, I've tried to go in that direction.
08-08-2018, 12:27 PM
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I can make that claim because (as my claim clearly stated) by nearly all accounts it’s harsher than its predecessor. I’m happy that your wife is a girl...in this day and age not enough people can say that!
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I think you need to drive the F90 M5; I just did and its much less taut than my E63S. Now granted, I live where the roads are good and Id rather give up some comfort for true road feel and a more planted feel, others may not so be inclined. The E63S drives just like my GTS and thats a very stiff ride with magnetorheological dampers which normally creates a brilliant ride like in my current R8 or previous Ferrari's and Lambo. The E63S is just a brute in this situation but like i said I like it.
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I think that’s why I’m coming off like such a bitter ****. Because I think the new M5 (and the RS7) may be more of what I’m looking for in a mid sized sports sedan and I honestly don’t want to leave AMG. I was seconds away from a 17 RS7 two weeks ago but forced myself to wait for a test drive in the F90. Now that it also has the ZF8 auto it has my attention.
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I think you need to drive the F90 M5; I just did and its much less taut than my E63S. Now granted, I live where the roads are good and Id rather give up some comfort for true road feel and a more planted feel, others may not so be inclined. The E63S drives just like my GTS and thats a very stiff ride with magnetorheological dampers which normally creates a brilliant ride like in my current R8 or previous Ferrari's and Lambo. The E63S is just a brute in this situation but like i said I like it.
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I think that’s why I’m coming off like such a bitter ****. Because I think the new M5 (and the RS7) may be more of what I’m looking for in a mid sized sports sedan and I honestly don’t want to leave AMG. I was seconds away from a 17 RS7 two weeks ago but forced myself to wait for a test drive in the F90. Now that it also has the ZF8 auto it has my attention.
