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Dagger9903 08-30-2018 01:08 AM

That's so perfectly backward it's amazing. Learn something new everyday.


Originally Posted by Pertplus (Post 7542082)


In Germany, “W” is for sedan. The “S” is for wagon. That’s why the wagons are “S4S.” So I think what you’re seeing for the C63 is the coupe, cabriolet and sedan.


Pertplus 08-30-2018 01:18 AM


Originally Posted by Dagger9903 (Post 7542087)
That's so perfectly backward it's amazing. Learn something new everyday.

yep. When I got my build sheet my dealer had to explain to me the S4S wasn’t a sedan and not to worry, I was getting a wagon.

wdimagineer 08-30-2018 02:40 AM


Originally Posted by Dagger9903 (Post 7542071)
Also, what is the 25,000u mean?

Several parts of this document have been redacted. I'm going to assume the +25,000u means an additional 25,000 units available for wholesale purchasing.

wdimagineer 08-30-2018 02:44 AM


Originally Posted by Pertplus (Post 7542082)


In Germany, “W” is for sedan. The “S” is for wagon. That’s why the wagons are “S4S.” So I think what you’re seeing for the C63 is the coupe, cabriolet and sedan.

Correct.

W = wagen (German) meaning sedan
S = estate
C = coupe
A = soft top convertible

X, V, and R make up the other designations you'd usually see, with X being an SUV, V being LWB sedans, and R being retractable hardtop cars, like the SL.

Corrado79 08-30-2018 03:43 AM

Might need to turn to Plan B (RS7). I am not waiting until December.

wdimagineer 08-30-2018 03:52 AM


Originally Posted by Corrado79 (Post 7542123)
Might need to turn to Plan B (RS7). I am not waiting until December.

I almost made the same decision long before this screenshot. I had the opportunity to snag a 1 of 25 Navarra Blue RS 7, but backed out. The dealer's detailers destroyed the paint and they wouldn't pay for correction. Part of me thinks I should have bit the bullet...

s26singh 08-30-2018 10:01 AM

Sorry I'm a bit lazy to go back and look at previous posts, but does anyone recall when MY18 E63s were released last year? I would assume they will be released same time this year, regardless of what the above chart shows.

Carac 08-30-2018 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by s26singh (Post 7542252)
Sorry I'm a bit lazy to go back and look at previous posts, but does anyone recall when MY18 E63s were released last year? I would assume they will be released same time this year, regardless of what the above chart shows.

First week of October.

E634Me 08-30-2018 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by s26singh (Post 7542252)
Sorry I'm a bit lazy to go back and look at previous posts, but does anyone recall when MY18 E63s were released last year? I would assume they will be released same time this year, regardless of what the above chart shows.

Not sure that it's an apples to apples situation and that the same release date would apply.

Last year this was a new model and EPA and California certs needed to be done. This year the motor is the same so the long emissions hold shouldn't be a factor.

Pertplus 08-30-2018 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by E634Me (Post 7542288)
Not sure that it's an apples to apples situation and that the same release date would apply.

Last year this was a new model and EPA and California certs needed to be done. This year the motor is the same so the long emissions hold shouldn't be a factor.

+1

Southern_Benz 08-30-2018 11:49 AM

I've confirmed this morning that the image posted by wassaby is from mbusa for our market, but is only somewhat accurate. New GLE400s should be arriving at dealers during the coming week; facelift C-Class should follow quickly behind. V8 models, specifically AMG vehicles, are confirmed delayed until late November/Early December - this is NOT an EPA issue, this is a European/MB issue, certification on their side, not ours.

G63 is delayed in similar fashion, won't see that for a while either.

MBUSA is attempting to pull forward some models, but you folks waiting for your E63s need to be aware that the earliest you'll see your car is likely the start of December.

Also he was totally not supposed to share that image, lol. But we like to live dangerously here on MB World. The image was part of a dealer webinar, optional participation.

Carac 08-30-2018 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by E634Me (Post 7542288)
Not sure that it's an apples to apples situation and that the same release date would apply.

Last year this was a new model and EPA and California certs needed to be done. This year the motor is the same so the long emissions hold shouldn't be a factor.

The E63 motor was EPA certified months before October. It was held for marketing reasons then as well.

sackboydad 08-30-2018 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Southern_Benz (Post 7542332)
I've confirmed this morning that the image posted by wassaby is from mbusa for our market, but is only somewhat accurate. New GLE400s should be arriving at dealers during the coming week; facelift C-Class should follow quickly behind. V8 models, specifically AMG vehicles, are confirmed delayed until late November/Early December - this is NOT an EPA issue, this is a European/MBUSA issue, certification on their side, not ours.

G63 is delayed in similar fashion, won't see that for a while either.

MBUSA is attempting to pull forward some models, but you folks waiting for your E63s need to be aware that the earliest you'll see your car is likely the start of December.

Also he was totally not supposed to share that image, lol. But we like to live dangerously here on MB World.

any update on the E450, specifically the Coupe & Cab? October sucks. In addition MBUSA own marketing material posted to their web site aug 9 says the coupe and cab are coming before the sedan. Sedan said “late 2018” and the coupe/cab were “by fall 2018”

any indo woukd be great. No happy having to wait FIVE MONTHS for my car. Really trying to fight not just buying a BMW... can have one next week. Plenty of Cabroilets (2019) on the BMW lot, not 150 feet from the MB dealer.

susman@eurogermantown.com 08-30-2018 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by X166 (Post 7541875)
Shahul? Have you / any dealers seen this launch schedule?

the one I have looks different

sackboydad 08-30-2018 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by susman@eurogermantown.com (Post 7542345)
the one I have looks different

care to post yours? Unless it shows my E450 Cab even LATER, then I just don’t want to know 😩

susman@eurogermantown.com 08-30-2018 12:09 PM

Im contacting distribution now.. mine shows October still for E63.. but as for the E450 cab I was told Sept end.. (I have two at port now)

frustrating for all IM sure

s26singh 08-30-2018 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by E634Me (Post 7542288)
Not sure that it's an apples to apples situation and that the same release date would apply.

Last year this was a new model and EPA and California certs needed to be done. This year the motor is the same so the long emissions hold shouldn't be a factor.

It does not seem like an emissions issue to me; it is likely MB internal policy/release structure that dictates release. But I would love to believe you; if you are right, that means we would get our cars early.

s26singh 08-30-2018 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Carac (Post 7542336)
The E63 motor was EPA certified months before October. It was held for marketing reasons then as well.

+1

sackboydad 08-30-2018 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by susman@eurogermantown.com (Post 7542349)
Im contacting distribution now.. mine shows October still for E63.. but as for the E450 cab I was told Sept end.. (I have two at port now)

frustrating for all IM sure

END?!?!?!?! Now I’m REALLY REALLY PISSED!!!!!!!

these guys are a bunch of morons.

Southern_Benz 08-30-2018 12:16 PM

I mean anyone can do any amount of yelling or contacting, I was just sharing the info I got from a conversation I had this morning, in person, face-to-face, with an actual MBUSA regional operations director.

Figured that would help you folks still wondering what's "up in the air" or "speculation"

susman@eurogermantown.com 08-30-2018 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by sackboydad (Post 7542358)

END?!?!?!?! Now I’m REALLY REALLY PISSED!!!!!!!

these guys are a bunch of morons.

just a couple more weeks on those cabs its Sept in two days..

VPC_E63S 08-30-2018 12:21 PM

Why in the world would they do this? The e63s has been launched. I wanted to buy a 2018, but couldn't find one. So had to order a new one, which means a 2019. So now I have to wait until December? This makes no sense. What am I missing here from this brilliant strategy?

Pertplus 08-30-2018 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by shasselman (Post 7542365)
Why in the world would they do this? The e63s has been launched. I wanted to buy a 2018, but couldn't find one. So had to order a new one, which means a 2019. So now I have to wait until December? This makes no sense. What am I missing here from this brilliant strategy?

My dealer in San Diego just got a used 2018 Wagon (Selenite on Black) maybe 1400 miles. I can see about getting the window sticker if youre interested. But I notice youre in DC so you may not want to get one that youd need to fly across the country to inspect.

Southern_Benz 08-30-2018 12:33 PM

I've also been informed that there is no indication of any "goodwill" program this time around...some of you mentioned this from last year, where two services were given out to certain owners of delayed models.

I've inquired about this, the answer was a resounding "no"

sackboydad 08-30-2018 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by sackboydad (Post 7542358)

END?!?!?!?! Now I’m REALLY REALLY PISSED!!!!!!!

these guys are a bunch of morons.

while I don’t apologize for my irritation at MBUSA, I’m sorry about my exclamation on this reply. I thought you said end of OCTOBER. this is what you get for reading then replying at a stop light 😬.


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