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Old 11-15-2018, 04:56 PM
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Not that it means anything for customer delivery date, but this article is written so as to suggest that at least one U.S.-spec MY19 wagon has escaped its VPC:
"But the hardest part may be actually getting your hands on one. Only two of the 2018 version are left at U.S. dealers today, and the 2019 model won’t hit showrooms until later this year. At the moment, this just might be the most exclusive Mercedes-Benz on the U.S. market."

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So I spoke with CARB today.

Some info. As suspected, all cars need a EO every year. Other states and even other countries (believe it or not), rely on the CARB certification. The relevant application was not made by MBUSA until Halloween - the person I spoke with said that the EO was still awaiting approval - likely within a couple of days - then a couple of days to post to the website.

Tests are done by the manufacturer and then certification made to CARB. Possible for EPA to pull in a car and verify results, but unlikely for subsequent years of a car.

So seems like things are moving along for a December release.
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Originally Posted by VPC_E63S
So I spoke with CARB today.

Some info. As suspected, all cars need a EO every year. Other states and even other countries (believe it or not), rely on the CARB certification. The relevant application was not made by MBUSA until Halloween - the person I spoke with said that the EO was still awaiting approval - likely within a couple of days - then a couple of days to post to the website.

Tests are done by the manufacturer and then certification made to CARB. Possible for EPA to pull in a car and verify results, but unlikely for subsequent years of a car.

So seems like things are moving along for a December release.
Wow. Thanks for posting—at least we have more clarity on the EO situation, as well as hopefully some support that things will proceed according to the December timeframe (versus later...).
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Originally Posted by VPC_E63S
So I spoke with CARB today.

Some info. As suspected, all cars need a EO every year. Other states and even other countries (believe it or not), rely on the CARB certification. The relevant application was not made by MBUSA until Halloween - the person I spoke with said that the EO was still awaiting approval - likely within a couple of days - then a couple of days to post to the website.

Tests are done by the manufacturer and then certification made to CARB. Possible for EPA to pull in a car and verify results, but unlikely for subsequent years of a car.

So seems like things are moving along for a December release.
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Originally Posted by VPC_E63S
So I spoke with CARB today.

Some info. As suspected, all cars need a EO every year. Other states and even other countries (believe it or not), rely on the CARB certification. The relevant application was not made by MBUSA until Halloween - the person I spoke with said that the EO was still awaiting approval - likely within a couple of days - then a couple of days to post to the website.
It doesn't seem like they're in a hurry if they only submitted the application two weeks ago, months after the cars started arriving at VPCs.

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Old 11-16-2018, 11:16 AM
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CARB related delay or not, Mbusa definitely ****ed up here. Well see if the e63s can erase that from my memory, otherwise there are lots of great alternatives.
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It doesn't seem like they're in a hurry if they only submitted the application two weeks ago, months after the cars started arriving at VPCs.
Seems like it, doesn't it. The comment was, "they may have submitted at that time to meet a marketing goal." So perhaps it is all marketing. Crazy way to do business. Perhaps the EO is just pro forma and they were not worried about it being delayed so no real pressing need to submit the certification application in advance because they know they will get it within a certain time frame. I feel sorry for the SAs who are getting the the brunt of it for no fault of their own.
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Sent an email almost two weeks ago; received the following reply today:

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Dear Dr. Singh,

Thank you for contacting the Mercedes-Benz Canada Customer Assistance Centre. We apologize for the delay in delivery of our 2019 models.We are currently waiting for the final certification from the government. Until the government certifies our vehicles, we cannot distribute them to the dealerships.The appropriate individual to follow-up on the date when your 2019 E63S will be available would be your sales associate or the sales department at your local Mercedes-Benz dealer as they would be contacted with the vehicle arrival date once our vehicles are certified.
Our apologies that we could not provide a more favorable response.

Yours sincerely,
Vaheesan

Mercedes-Benz Canada Customer Assistance Centre"
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Sent an email almost two weeks ago; received the following reply today:

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Dear Dr. Singh,

Thank you for contacting the Mercedes-Benz Canada Customer Assistance Centre. We apologize for the delay in delivery of our 2019 models.We are currently waiting for the final certification from the government. Until the government certifies our vehicles, we cannot distribute them to the dealerships.The appropriate individual to follow-up on the date when your 2019 E63S will be available would be your sales associate or the sales department at your local Mercedes-Benz dealer as they would be contacted with the vehicle arrival date once our vehicles are certified.
Our apologies that we could not provide a more favorable response.

Yours sincerely,
Vaheesan

Mercedes-Benz Canada Customer Assistance Centre"

LOL... I literally got the same email from the same guy. Only diff was C43 instead of E63.

Seems like a generic email they are sending out if you request an update.
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LOL... I literally got the same email from the same guy. Only diff was C43 instead of E63.

Seems like a generic email they are sending out if you request an update.
Yup lol, not much else they can say
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MBUSA's lack of transparency on the delay is really going to turn off a lot of their longtime customers. Not that I feel any other company provides a much better alternative. Don't have to look for very long online to find plenty of cases of BMWNA and Porsche treating loyal customers like crap. Unfortunately being loyal to a brand nowadays is mostly a losing proposition.
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Rumour has it G63 AMG’s are getting pushed back fo Feb next year.

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...4&goto=newpost
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Originally Posted by s26singh
Rumour has it G63 AMG’s are getting pushed back fo Feb next year.

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...4&goto=newpost
Uh...so should we worry about the E63s?
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Originally Posted by s26singh
Rumour has it G63 AMG’s are getting pushed back fo Feb next year.

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...4&goto=newpost
Not sure if you guys saw this also..

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news...ue-111618.html

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My dealer in San Diego just got a used 2018 Wagon (Selenite on Black) maybe 1400 miles. I can see about getting the window sticker if youre interested. But I notice youre in DC so you may not want to get one that youd need to fly across the country to inspect.
Which dealer has the 2018?
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Originally Posted by VPC_E63S
So I spoke with CARB today.

Some info. As suspected, all cars need a EO every year. Other states and even other countries (believe it or not), rely on the CARB certification. The relevant application was not made by MBUSA until Halloween - the person I spoke with said that the EO was still awaiting approval - likely within a couple of days - then a couple of days to post to the website.

Tests are done by the manufacturer and then certification made to CARB. Possible for EPA to pull in a car and verify results, but unlikely for subsequent years of a car.

So seems like things are moving along for a December release.
Sigh........ I was sure hoping that this delay was the result of some noble effort of MB to correct the CEL issue and deliver to its customers a rock solid product. Instead, this appears to be a long planned marketing delay that MB hopes will benefit them on some spread sheet and might help retain its luxury car crown. As the old saying goes, "Don't get mad, get even." The way I see it, there are 3 choices. 1. Walk away. 2. Grin and bear it. 3. Do anything you can to make MB Marketing look the fool.

So this evening, as I was sweeping that empty space in the garage where my wagon should have been since September, I decided that my vote counts. MB is not going to get my vote in 2018! I am not walking away but I am not buying in 2018. If MB can make us wait 2,3,4 or more months for a deliverable car, I think they can wait until the first of the year to realize the sale. I was available to write that check in September or October but IF my wagon should appear before the end of the year, me and my checkbook are not so available. Am I cutting off my nose to spite my face? Probably. Am I going to turn to putty at first sight of my wagon? Of course.

Based on everything that has been presented here, my prediction is that my wagon will arrive at the dealership in the middle of December just in time so that we can be apart of MB's best December ever. For me, I think I can wait a few more days and deprive MB of one more sale in 2018. Come on BMW! You guys need to have a kick *** November and December. I know this is not going to show up as a blip on anybody's radar but it will make me feel like I am sticking it to the man. Will my salesperson suffer? Probably but that is one more blip on the radar and just maybe there will be enough blips that MB will see that this marketing style does not work.

Rise up my friends and lock up your checkbooks until January! Who am I kidding? There will be a massive east coast snow storm on December 7th and all those newly released cars will be delayed 10 days while they dig out.......Sigh.
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Uh...so should we worry about the E63s?

E 63 will be in released December.
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MBUSA's lack of transparency on the delay is really going to turn off a lot of their longtime customers. Not that I feel any other company provides a much better alternative. Don't have to look for very long online to find plenty of cases of BMWNA and Porsche treating loyal customers like crap. Unfortunately being loyal to a brand nowadays is mostly a losing proposition.
my feelings also.
there's a lot of easy money going on. central banks pouring money into the market, saving banks, that then know they will be saved and can lend and risk at their own will, and big companies getting money knowing that they are too big to fail and that consumers are too addicted to consume so they will get back one way or another.
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As per the video link I have included below - the E63's now come with a gasoline particulate filter(s)? Or does this apply to Euro spec cars only? If it does come with the filter - better not f*#& with the noise/sounds - it is one of the main reasons I am buying this car.

Skip to time 18:53 for the GPF talk:

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they say it does not affect sound...
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they say it does not affect sound...
Who is they?
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Who is they?
Mike and Mr. AMG, on the video
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