MY19 Launch Schedule
 

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incoming rant from [literally everyone here]

the gates to customer unsatisfaction hell have been opened!

I, for one, welcome our new overlords.

From my understanding MB is still working hard to get the E launch in OCT.

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For those who are waiting I guess MB is having a Good Will program ready like they had last year

I'm sure each dealer came up with something on top of that from case to case.

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Well ****. My C63S lease ends in December. I was very much looking forward to early turn-in. I also have thousands of dollars in non-returnable parts stored at a friend's place while I move to Austin, TX. He's moving after me in November. :wall: I don't want to keep moving these things around.

I can't possibly think of any reason why these vehicles are so delayed... again.

The official version is EPA Certification

Is this for the US? We don't get the C63 wagon but it looks like that is slated for Q4.

Also, what is the 25,000u mean?

That's so perfectly backward it's amazing. Learn something new everyday.

Several parts of this document have been redacted. I'm going to assume the +25,000u means an additional 25,000 units available for wholesale purchasing.

Correct.

W = wagen (German) meaning sedan
S = estate
C = coupe
A = soft top convertible

X, V, and R make up the other designations you'd usually see, with X being an SUV, V being LWB sedans, and R being retractable hardtop cars, like the SL.

Might need to turn to Plan B (RS7). I am not waiting until December.

I almost made the same decision long before this screenshot. I had the opportunity to snag a 1 of 25 Navarra Blue RS 7, but backed out. The dealer's detailers destroyed the paint and they wouldn't pay for correction. Part of me thinks I should have bit the bullet...

Sorry I'm a bit lazy to go back and look at previous posts, but does anyone recall when MY18 E63s were released last year? I would assume they will be released same time this year, regardless of what the above chart shows.

First week of October.

Not sure that it's an apples to apples situation and that the same release date would apply.

Last year this was a new model and EPA and California certs needed to be done. This year the motor is the same so the long emissions hold shouldn't be a factor.

I've confirmed this morning that the image posted by wassaby is from mbusa for our market, but is only somewhat accurate. New GLE400s should be arriving at dealers during the coming week; facelift C-Class should follow quickly behind. V8 models, specifically AMG vehicles, are confirmed delayed until late November/Early December - this is NOT an EPA issue, this is a European/MB issue, certification on their side, not ours.

G63 is delayed in similar fashion, won't see that for a while either.

MBUSA is attempting to pull forward some models, but you folks waiting for your E63s need to be aware that the earliest you'll see your car is likely the start of December.

Also he was totally not supposed to share that image, lol. But we like to live dangerously here on MB World. The image was part of a dealer webinar, optional participation.

The E63 motor was EPA certified months before October. It was held for marketing reasons then as well.

the one I have looks different

Im contacting distribution now.. mine shows October still for E63.. but as for the E450 cab I was told Sept end.. (I have two at port now)

frustrating for all IM sure

It does not seem like an emissions issue to me; it is likely MB internal policy/release structure that dictates release. But I would love to believe you; if you are right, that means we would get our cars early.

+1

I mean anyone can do any amount of yelling or contacting, I was just sharing the info I got from a conversation I had this morning, in person, face-to-face, with an actual MBUSA regional operations director.

Figured that would help you folks still wondering what's "up in the air" or "speculation"

just a couple more weeks on those cabs its Sept in two days..

Why in the world would they do this? The e63s has been launched. I wanted to buy a 2018, but couldn't find one. So had to order a new one, which means a 2019. So now I have to wait until December? This makes no sense. What am I missing here from this brilliant strategy?

My dealer in San Diego just got a used 2018 Wagon (Selenite on Black) maybe 1400 miles. I can see about getting the window sticker if youre interested. But I notice youre in DC so you may not want to get one that youd need to fly across the country to inspect.

I've also been informed that there is no indication of any "goodwill" program this time around...some of you mentioned this from last year, where two services were given out to certain owners of delayed models.

I've inquired about this, the answer was a resounding "no"

haha no worries.. guess it's still wait and see regardless

If I had a dime for everytime I thought German regulations went a little too far....well.....

This likely has to do with WLTP, the new Worldwide harmonized Light vehicles Test Procedure the tree-hugging a s s f u c k s in the European Union and United Nations conjured up. This new testing regime takes effect in September, 2018. Vehicles registered before September, 2018 are apparently exempt, so some deliveries are expected.

This has affected VW, BMW, Audi, and numerous others. I know VW and Audi have actually started renting extra space to store cars that aren't WLTP compliant yet.

I used to work for him. I agree completely. Despite the increased emissions, the numbers were far less than they would have been if the vehicles involved were all traditional petrol and not diesel.

Anyways... government at work. I feel for all my EU-based OEM colleagues right now. This. Effing. Sucks.

Seems definitely related to WLTP

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/08/30/...-pollution-st/

Yea I kinda wanted to say that.but was and am. Being cautious

What temporary car options exist out there to bridge the gap to December? Are there short-term leases available (6 months) or good long term rental options?

Look on Swapalease.com for short-term takeovers. That's how I ended up with my current C63 S. There were 7 months left on the lease when I assumed it, hoping to turn it in early for my new wagon.

Sixt Rentals had some decent month to month options. I think Hertz and Avis offer monthly rental rates, too.

Turo also?

This has been the most frustrating experience of my life. Ordered my 2018 E63S in Nov 17. But change over to MY19 messed everything up. So it was converted to a MY19. It was built in Aug, shipped and off-loaded in Baltimore last weekend. Now I have to wait until maybe December? 13 months? Now the car gets to simmer in the sun, get pelted with acidic rain, exposed to salty air, possible hurricanes, ice storms, plagues of locusts? And what will MB offer us? probably a free travel coffee mug.

I doubt you'll get a free travel coffee mug..

I hook up my customers with mugs and hats etc... ;) lol

I am hopeful Mr. Younger will take care of me. :) He and his sales staff have been very good to my family over the years.

You and me both.. unfortunately MBUSA don't give no F's!

That is correct. I feel bad that some of you guys that ordered E63 get the news from here instead of Dealer but I think transparency and expectations are very important. Is better to know now that you may get your car in December that to find out in October.

All the dealers are aware about the info I posted and i'm wondering how many managers told their customers about the possible December delay.

Anyway MBUSA and dealers are going to get the huge sales hit this year because of all the delays.

Ugghhhh....didn't make it to look at the MY19 M5 Comp down the road last weekend. May go this weekend.

Looks like the E53 has now been pushed to November, when it was October before.

If this is true, I may ditch the car and look at rs7 and M5.

Just got word from my SA: E63 will likely be released in December, along with GTC, G63 and SL. He said government certification process is to blame. GLC, C, CLA, GLA get the testing first not to clog up the yard. All new year models get held for testing. Higher volume units get first approval. He states its the government, not any brand, and Volkswagen set this system in place, it is their fault. He's confident BMW and Porsche 2019's are also being held in a similar fashion, with their own release schedules.

honestly it does suck were not gonna see them till December, but speaking for myself I don't wanna be that guy rolling up next to a brand new E63 come December in my shouda couda wouda car.

Hello,
My E63 has been at the Baltimore VPC since mid July. Can anyone confirm how they are being stored?
just outside in the elements with some plastic on the fenders and hoods, or are they inside or under some canopy?
cheers

@Lucabratsi -- I wish I knew. Maybe Southern_Benz or Wassby know how they are stored?

Mine was in Baltimore from June 6th until late July. I was told that mine was stored inside, but who knows for sure? I did have some water spots on the panoramic glass roof that was visible in certain lights and reflections when the surface was dampened. This, of course, could have been formed while waiting at the port in Germany as well? Took some elbow grease to remove, but there nonetheless.

'18. I think I have the last delivered '18 here on the forum! :)

I was offered to convert it to a '19 since it was so late, but now I'm glad I did not since I actually like the '18 steering wheel better, and don't need it heated out here in Cali.

ordered in may 2017.... no sympathy here.

doesnt change the fact that mbusa is a bunch of co c ksuckers.

I was at the Baltimore port / VPC for a photo project that Im working on today and came across all the MB cars there. As you can see, they are all outside, at least a couple of hundred cards that I saw. The only AMG I saw was this GLC SUV. I didnt see any e63s. Guess they must be stored elsewhere or at the back of the lot...? Its a huge lot.

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Sorry for my car photobombing in one of the pics. ;-)

The longer a car sits at the VPC the further back into the lot it migrates. Models that are released for sale are picked out and loaded on trucks while those still on hold are moved back and further into the lot to make room for new arrivals. When the '18 Range Rover SCV8 was released for sale, my wife's had been there a couple weeks and ended up getting loaded on a truck two weeks after one that had just been unloaded from a boat that was at the front of the lot.

For those inquiring about storage @ VPCs...

If you're expecting red-carpet or sterile rooms, you'll be severely disappointed. There are some outliers to this depending on the VPC and "luck of the draw" for what quality level a specific employee/VPC operates at, but for the most part all these vehicles will remain parked, uncovered, until it is time for that vehicle to move - whether for loading/shipping or relocation. Some will have their plastic sheeting removed, some will have the sheeting still in place. As you see in a photo above from the Baltimore VPC, you can clearly see a GLC63 sitting there, uncovered, waiting to be moved. Like it or not, it's the same tier vehicle as the precious E63. Point being, you don't see it covered, so don't expect your car to be either.

I once had an S65 coupe delivered; it was on the front of a carrier truck - you know, the very front, where it hangs over the driver's windshield view - uncovered, with zero protections. The paint actually needed reconditioning from the amount of bugs that had blown their guts all over the front bumper by the time it reached me here in the mid-south US. This was a $245,000 flagship AMG vehicle. Everything was a-ok, but still a frustration that I had to deal with.

I'm sure most of you will flip **** at the thought of that, but you shouldn't let it stress you out. There's nothing you can do to change that, short of working there or knowing someone that does very closely, and at the off-chance something does happen, I don't see anyone having a problem getting that addressed & handled.

You're all going to love your vehicles when they arrive, and there's not much to do besides having faith that the brand will take care of you.

I've been told Long Beach VPC is indoors. It's the previous Boeing hangers so I assume they're massive buildings.

https://mbworld.org/forums/amg-gt/68...-vpc-pics.html

https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-dust-pic.html

got a call from MB dealer. haven't heard from him in 2 months. said the e63s wagon will be released in December. he said, once it's released, I can have the car in one week, assuming they're not releasing thousands of cars at the same time causing trucking and logistical delays at the port.

it's been sitting in Baltimore since the mid July. February order, June 3rd decade build, July delivery to Baltimore.

Mhm, note the "outliers" comment in my previous post. Not all VPCs have the same infrastructure, which is why I stated it's healthy to expect it to be uncovered, outdoors. Don't give yourself any false expectations unless you know for a fact that your vehicle is housed differently. If you had it confirmed that your vehicle is indeed indoors/covered (like those pics state), great. Otherwise expect it not to be!

Also, definitely down for a lil' B & E at Baltimore VPC, who's buying my ticket?!

I was specifically told they would be housing my car in the loading zone at an undisclosed Ramada Inn parking lot. Cant say anything more than that.

That could be a modifier - and someone might suggest that the E63 is not a popular E class model. Goes to other comments about prioritizing the cars that sell more volume.

I don't see any hangers in Baltimore. Just rows of cars - although many in the satellite appear to be wrapped.

I don't have the info on how they are stored. Last year were inside:

https://mbworld.org/forums/amg-gt/68...-vpc-pics.html

https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-dust-pic.html

Difficult to interpret--might just be a general comment that those classes (and all variants) are in the process of being replenished. Who knows at this point...

I updated your link!
Looking at the size of the Baltimore VPC, and the number of cars, they would appear to be outside at some time of another!

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Me.../data=!3m1!1e3

Cars on the Valiant Ace landed at port near Los Angeles on 8/30--Code C4.

The second act of the "the wait" now begins...

The hardest wait! It was fun tracking the Valiant Ace across the Atlantic, through the Panama Canal, and up to Long Beach. We even managed to capture a shot of her going through the Canal on their webcam:
This car will be worth the wait.

That's what i call dedication in tracking your assets :))))

:) I did the same thing when watching my car make its way home after dropping it off following European Delivery.

Thankfully for me it was in the November/January timeframe so all that VPC hold business was over and I just had to wait for normal VPC processing time.

Elected to have the car shipped to Baltimore rather than my local SD dealer to save the few extra weeks for the route through the Canal. Plan on keeping the car for a long time and my annual mileage is typically fairly low, so didn't mind the extra miles for the coast to coast trip.

This wouldn't be.a big deal if the car wasn't magno Grey. You can easily polish off acid rain spots, paint contaminants, bug tar etc out of regular paint but leaving exposed magno paint for weeks or months in the elements isn't good. The car will have defects and the dealership might try to cover up and make the paint sheen uneven. I hope they cover matte finishes but I don't think they will.

Bunch of 63s just got CARB certified, so that's a good sign in my mind. S63s, GLE 63s and GLC 63s.

I consider this progress!

My salesman called me yesterday to update me on the delay issue and how that even though my car is sitting at the port, it is being held up for 60 days. I tried to pretend I did not know much, and dig into the reason for the delay. But he was cagey and did not seem to know much, certainly less than this forum, or at least that is what he lead me to believe.

This E63S wagon better be sick, otherwise this may be first and last MB.

My salesperson confirmed that she got the same graphic showing the various releases as was originally posted here. As several forum members working at dealerships have already pointed out, the best thing to do is expect December and be pleasantly surprised if the cars get released earlier.

Any proof of this? Would make me feel a lot better!

Nothing to blame your SA because a lot of info is not communicated from the top and in my opinion that is very wrong.

Good point. They are dealt a tough hand here.

I wish I could offer proof from Daimler's perspective. My experience is working for another OEM on the corporate side. Our high-value, exclusive-finish vehicles were always segregated and cared for in accordance with our own internal guidelines.

Of course, we were also one of the only OEMs to ship our cars fully wrapped. Still do!

All Mercedes Benz shipped from Eu have code 666 Transportation Protection Foil. Will be interesting to know when they take the foil down at the VPC.

On the VPC subject here is the Mercedes VPC presentation :

Thanks good to know they are probably doing the same. Out of curiosity, what manufacturer were you with? I wish I could order it factory xpel'd. A friend of mine who is a automotive paint specialist will come with me when I see my car. If the paint has been damaged, I just won't take the car. Too much of a headache for these matte jobs to try and replicate factory finish.

Interesting. So they polish up the cars and then put them uncovered on a trailer for a 1,000 mile drive to the dealer? Makes sense.

Lol I noticed that too. They also send it through a machine wash when the owners manual says NEVER to send through a machine wash.

with a polish driver drinking polish vodka singing polish folk songs... my ****wagon is going to never make it to the dealer

Yes, actually.

But we're all insinuating that MB owns & operates each individual carrier, which is simply not true and also not feasible on such a scale. Subcontracting is the only way to go for that, and because of that, tons of variables are in play for the final leg of shipping.

And idk about you guys, but I've only ever met one carrier driver I've liked, and he was Canadian.

#blanketstatements but in my years in the industry, vehicle transport has proved itself to be the biggest over-promised, under-delivered, can't-rely-on variable to any kind of logistic plan or transaction.

I once watched a guy load an S65 coupe (that I was responsible for) onto the last spot of a trailer fully loaded with wrecked Camrys & Optimas - and this guy clearly handled wrecked Camrys & Optimas on a regular basis - much less a half million dollar AMG flagship. Pretty sure my anxiety got to a level that day that would be un-achievable for any human under normal circumstances.

EDIT: I also had a carrier smash the Pano Roof of a brand new S550 I brought in from Cali. Kept the car on the bottom, trailer's hydraulics compressed, smashed the roof to pieces. This car was also equipped with Magic Sky Control. If you're curious, and because it's hilarious, replacing a Magic Sky Control Pano Roof on a 2017 S550 will take several weeks and cost anywhere between $12-15,000 all said & done.

Uh, actually nothing about MB's supply chain management seems to make sense - or rather that this sensible "plan" is actually being properly implemented. In fact, you have press releases from MBUSA every month showing significant year-over sales drops and these same press releases blame the results on a lack of inventory - where THEY make the product and control the supply chain! This is pretty-much 101 in running a business that makes and sells things. I'm confident that it is the job of quite a few people to make sure that sufficient suppliers are engaged to make parts, that parts get to the factory, that regulatory clearances are applied for and received, and that the products you are selling are delivered to customers on time. All I see here is a company that has failed on most of these counts, that is terrible at communication, that hasn't engaged sufficient suppliers, that is hanging its dealers out to dry, and is pretty much only good at pissing off its customers. Given MB's "reputation" - I think it is all quite surprising - so much for German efficiency. But I'm new to the brand - although if this car doesn't get here soon, I will never become a customer.

MB is #1 Luxury in sales for the past 3 years and overall # are positive year over year since 2008. From a business perspective you cannot build a new factory for every model just because the demand is high. Mercedes always played safe in regards to invest in production. Keeping a demand-supply balance is the smartest thing to do.
A benefit for keeping that balance goes to customers. You will be surprise if I tell you that right now 2015 GLK350 W4 and 2015-2016 E350 W4 are in high demand at MB auction especially ones that are nice specs and are clean.

Yet here you are.

The wait sucks, I'm in the same position But 6 months from today you'll be unhappy with the m5. If your gut decision was the e63s then keep with it.

agreed.. it's annoying for us all..Im very sorry to everyone waiting.. I know its an extra few months but I hope everyone getting their E63's will love it and see how amazing that car is.. Id love to have an E63 wagon so so bad..

Explain to me why MB would follow a schedule releasing vehicles to dealerships to fill their lots(with unsold cars), but not release vehicles that are already sold- such as all of us waiting for our E63s?

Are any new cars being shipped? Or has that stopped due to these delays?

Only e classes I'm getting are 2019 e300 and 450 sedans... Only other 19s I've recieved are cla/gla, s450, c coupe/cab, and glc300...

Same issue delays on e coupe/cab, glc43/63, s560, c43/63, amg gt variants

Yea need the broader market cars released before the niche. Im actually interested in driving a 53 with the eq boost (electric compressor/supercharger)

So, does anyone have an E63 on a boat right now? Sounds like they are either (1) currently sitting at the port/VPC or (2) have not been built yet. I was just curious to see if MB has slowed down production on the E63 to address the delay issue.

FWIW, I believe those cars all have CARB certifications. We don't have one yet for the E63.

SL450 did exist prior, uses the current biturbo V6 like the current S450 and the older GLE450 coupe. The confusing bit is the usage of the 3.0L TT V6 versus usage of the new I6 single turbo.

My e63s is on the global highway cargo ship scheduled to be in Baltimore tomorrow morning Looks like I'm part of the waiting and angry at Mbusa crew

A e450 buyer mentioned (in an S560 thread) that his dealer said all non-AMG63 cars have been released (not sure if this includes 43/53 cars).

https://mbworld.org/forums/new-s-cla...19-s560-7.html

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EDIT: Seems like the S560 got released, which would be ahead of schedule.

Also, not US but apparently Canada has also green lit all non-63s:

https://mbworld.org/forums/c450-c43-...-canada-3.html

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FWIW, there are a couple of dealer listing on the Internet with "photos coming soon" for the 2019 S560. Obviously does not mean they are released, but we can always hope.....

My 2019 S560 Cab arrived in Baltimore last week. I was told this morning by my dealer that he has been told it will be released sometime in early October.

Just pictures from the dog.. I just got in my 19 e450 cabs and sedans.. The led lit vents looks cool.. I have S Class now.. No 19 amgs at all yet 43/53/63

You mean the HVAC vents are lit with the LEDs too? Will my 19 e63s have that?

Here's a picture from the new E-class brochure for MY19. Hope this helps.

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They don't, but you can buy the CLS LED vents from the parts department, they apparently pop right in and someone said wiring them up was a breeze.

A few more CARB approvals today, SL63, SL550, SLC300. Looks like generally on schedule with the original post. Will be interesting to see the release timing of the S63 and SL63. Both have CARB approval but are slated for Mid-Q4, which would be Nov, and both before the E63s. If they get released early, probably a good sign for the E63s.

Keepin' hope alive!

Haha, what else is there at this point? Although I admit, a discounted 2018 Panamera Turbo Sport Tourismo is tempting...

Thanks for this. I admit to being perplexed at whether any of this matters given that we seem to have different opinions on this subject (i.e., the 2018 e63s already having a CARB EO). But transparency is obviously not a hallmark here....

Daaayum straaaaaight!!!

It's more to track and anticipate the accuracy of the originally posted time frame then anything specific to CARB & E63s. I think CARB approvals provide (and have provided) good guidance to what is upcoming for release, and I'm extrapolating (assumption here), that if models (not e63s) are being released ahead of schedule then there is a greater likelihood of the e63s being released earlier (since there is no feasible reason to delay them in my mind). Thus I'm focused on the S560 release and then the S63 release.

It also feels good to know there is forward progress on releases when your car is sitting at the VPC and has been for over a month. Totally admit that this is more of an exercise to appease my lack control / influence in all this as well =)

No, I get that and appreciate it. I'm just wondering whether anyone knows whether the CARB approval is actually required for the 2019 e63s since it is the same engine as the 2018.

Would this effect me if I have a december build date? My dealer said I should be looking expecting delivery end of January into February. Wondering if it would be pushed back.

If last year is any indication, my first week of January Wagon with CCB build ended up being a first week of April build after delays.

Damn, I really hope my Build does not get pushed back from 12/2D/18. I was hoping by than all these issues would be resolved.

CARB approval is needed each model year for a "family" of models that share an engine. For example, this is last years that covers the E63S. Scroll down to see the 2018 models this one approval covers. But whether or not the family changes, a new "Executive Order" is needed each year.
https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad..._4d0_u3-70.pdf

This is the page with the 2019 Executive Orders. You can watch for "NEW" daimler_... entries to see when our family is certified.
https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad.../2019/2019.php

Note that last year's certs were done by August 24, except for some models (like the V-12s) that were introduced late. There were no certs in September. For whatever reason, it's running a month late this year.

What is the E63 under? Because of this approval it effects all the cars that come to the US to be released? or just the ones in Cali?

There is not 2018 or 2019 E63 in the US. Only E63S, which is the family I linked. Do I misunderstand your question?

It affects all cars. CARB is required for 50 states now, so if you buy a car in Nevada you can "import" to California, for instance. Many years ago there were 49-state cars and California cars, but that's long gone. California sets the emission requirement for the whole country.

Sorry I know we do not get the e63, just typed it like that. My question was when we are going through the site is there a specific name we should look out for or do we just click any new 2019 Executive Orders on the site. There are quite a few of them. The second part of my question is, because Cali needs 2019 Executive Orders, does it effect other customers as far as cars being released to be delivered to the customers, or no it does not.

oh damn, hopefully it gets approved soon.

Yes, just click on NEW entries with dates from today on. You can't really predict from the Executive Order number what family it covers. As of now, you won't find it. :mad:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...21b25c8883.jpg
LED vents with Energizing Comfort package on the 2019 E-450 Coupe
It appears that you get them with the Energizing Comfort Package on the E450 Coupe. Don't know about other models.

No, it comes standard with the ambient lighting system on all 450 models, regardless of packages.

I hear ya. My car has only been at the vpc a week but considering I ordered it last March, seems like forever. I sold my Shelby GT350 last March to buy this car so going a little nutz here. Sold the c43 last week and bought a glc300 to scratch the itch. Wife loves the little suv but i need speed! 🤑

Which VPC? My E450 Coupe arrived at Long Beach yesterday. I ordered it last April. I hope it doesn't have to sit there too long! I'm told that cars that are ordered have priority for shipping from the VPC to the dealer. My dealer is in Las Vegas, I live 100 miles away and can't wait for the road trip to pick it up.
Steve

Mines in Baltimore

Looks like they just got CARB certification today - which may be what that was referring to?

The AMG S65 (coupe, convertible too) got certified as well, along with the S650. Looks like we're getting there - bizarre that the e63s is last. They have GOT to be selling more e63s then S65s!

Yep, today's CARB certs are CLA45 and V-12 families. Nothing for us.
https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad.../2019/2019.php

Thx for sharing.

Yea my 45 AMG's have been released to carrier... from Baltimore.I should have them mid next week since im so close

I have the C43's/SLC43's coming first tow weeks week of October.. GLC43's and GLC63's coming the last week of Oct.. last thing I was told

E53's maybe 1st week Nov.. then E63's and C63's and GT AMG's maybe a few weeks after...

Hopefully the GLE63 S we ordered is gonna get cleared by October, things seem to have sped up a bit.

This basically looks like the schedule posted on p1 of this thread. The only greater specificity is that the release is at the beginning of the month as opposed to the end? Or am I missing something?

I've been told that the SL550 has now launched.

Good sign, with that and the e450 out, that's at least 2 models ahead of schedule. Spoke with my SA and he was hoping for a Nov. release on the e63s.

And the S560s and G550s have been launched too. I think the only non-AMGs left are from the CLS family.

optional in EU in the E63S. also optional the illuminated door sills (front. don't know why there are none on the rear doors. this is not a coupe or a 2 seat...)

So, models what remain? All of the AMG's and the CLS's?

I'm guessing that the general timeline is consistent with the first page and that mid- to late-Oct will see the e53 / S63 and then mid- to late-Nov will see the C and E63. I'm sure some of this is dictated by logistics and transport carriers as much as EPA releases. I don't understand why the E63 is after the S63 if they're prioritizing higher-volume cars, but maybe they're also trying to optimize mix of types of cars.

Is the E63 the last?

I'm driving to Vegas tomorrow morning and picking up my 2019 E450 Coupe. It's been a long wait. I ordered a 2018 E400 Coupe 1/29/2018. After my dealer realized that it couldn't be produced with the Premium 3 Package, she said I'd have to settle for a Premium 2 car or order (and wait) for a 2019 with a more powerful engine, new steering wheel etc. I decided to wait and ordered it in April.

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The dealer sent me these yesterday and apologized because it hadn't been cleaned yet. I'm ready, and I'm sure she will tomorrow! My wife thinks I goofy because I'm referring to her as Merci Blucoupe... vanity license will be BLUCOUP. I've checked the state licensing and it is available. It's hard to tell from the lighting in the picture but it is Lunar Blue Metallic. I feel like I'm 14 years old, but I can tell I'm not alone around here...right folks?
Steve

man, what a beauty! nice taste!

love to see people happy and feeling like a kid with their cars! keep bringing it on!

Sales still in the tank, no surprise, but "increased availability" in October:

https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...es-26169-Units

ATLANTA--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Mercedes-Benz USA (MBUSA) today reported September sales of 26,169 Mercedes-Benz models, a decrease of 9.8% from September 2017. Mercedes-Benz Vans reported best-ever month of 4,448 units (up 44.0%) and smart reported 98 units, bringing MBUSA to a grand total of 30,715 vehicles for the month. On a year-to-date basis, sales of Mercedes-Benz vehicles totaled 225,384, with an additional 28,023 units for Vans and 959 vehicles for smart, bringing the sales volume to 254,366, a decrease of 5.8% from last year.

“Customer demand remains consistently strong, but our inventory levels are still impacted by delays in availability of many of our most popular 2019 models,” said Dietmar Exler, president and CEO of MBUSA. “We expect increased availability throughout October and for the remainder of the year.”

Mercedes-Benz volume leaders in September included the GLC, C-Class and E-Class model lines. The GLC took the lead at 6,070, followed by C-Class sales of 4,682. The E-Class rounded out the top three with 4,072 units sold.

September sales of Mercedes-AMG high-performance totaled 1,378 units, with 20,738 vehicles sold year-to-date.

Separately, Mercedes-Benz Certified Pre-Owned (MBCPO) models recorded sales of 10,274 vehicles in September, an increase of 17.8% when compared to the same month last year (8,725). On a year-to-date basis, MBCPO sold 95,569 vehicles, an increase of 9.0% over 2017 (87,677).

You should send Dietmar a linkedin message and ask him for our cars!

GLC saved the month in NW with probably 70% in sales volume.

Just got this email from Sales Manager.....

We will have an update from MBUSA later today.
I will reach out to you to apprise.

Thanks!

Joe

Here it is:

"Do to zee messages received by zee Herr Dietmar Exler from certain persons with zee weird names such as "exhundertsexundsexzig", zee "kaycee something" "pertextra" "shassel" und we don't know vat else mit verruckten messages about zee "vee pay cee" E63 stationwagons, ve at Mercedes Benz have agreed to provide a free AMG travel mug ven zee stationwagon is released from the vee pay cee in zee spring of 2020. Danke fur your patronage."

Well said, lol

"Our announcement is that there is nothing to announce."

Apparently, because I'm still waiting patiently on him to apprise me.

Here's his response...

"Was just advised that the 63 engine vehicles will not be released until later this year. This includes the E63 -- Probably December."

This is what we're talking about for a month now. That's old news.

Was there an explanation? That's what I don't understand - why they can't just say, "Someone in the [legal/engineering] department screwed-up and we have to wait for [a certification for an emissions application that should have been submitted six month ago and wasn't/a software update to address a misfire in the engine] and then we will release the car. Or maybe, "the marketing department thought it would be a great idea to build anticipation for the release of a car that has already been released." or "We still have two E63s wagons in inventory in North America and although they are both white, we are waiting until they are sold until we release the 2019s."

Dropped by my dealer today - SA showed me a print out of release schedule - much more detailed than one posted here. On the very last page I found the MY19 E63 AMG. Written beside this was "release date early December"; and beside that it said "campaign release date". Along with it sat the GT AMG's. Only thing scheduled to release next year (2019) in February/March is the AMG GT 4 door coupe.

MB is following a release schedule; very unlikely we will see our cars any earlier than indicated.

Did the printout list the release date for the E53?

Sadly, a new CEL popped today at the same time the engine started running very roughly. Very shortly after I heard a loud bang and screeching sound and the car came to an abrupt halt with the engine stalled.

When I got out of the car I could smell both coolant and oil and saw both running on the ground. Upon opening the hood, much to my dismay I saw a connecting rod protruding from the side of the motor . . .




J/K :slap::bsflag:

Just kidding. The car has been running great for the two days I've had it back so far.

Have to drive Friday from SD to Universal Studios for a family outing and will be driving the E63. We'll see how it does on a little longer drive.

I'm hopeful that Mercedes is on top of the CEL issue and gets to a root cause soon. Best of luck to the others who've had the problem.

You got me good in the beginning of your post :) I've been away from the forums for months and now I see CEL issue threads all over the place, just craziness.

Then I see those waiting for their 19 MY cars to be released from the VPCs. I feel like it's groundhog day for those of us with 18 MY sedan/wagon. Hope MB gets the issues squared away and everyone gets their cars sooner than later.

Same as the chart on this thread - late November. For CLS it says early November.

Since July 22nd

my car has been at baltimore vpc from july. was told delivery would be around September/October
begging to loose confidence in mbusa with all delays and cel

Took out a C63 S AMG Coupe for a long test drive - drove it on old, warn out, rough, single lane country roads in "race" - apart from the interior rattles car handled bumps fine. SA said E63 ride quality is less harsh! This is fantastic because I found the C63 to be perfectly fine. Didn't do myself any favours though; wait is even more killer now. Hang in there lads - will be well worth the wait.

Following up on my post re trip from SD to LA and back following return of the car after CEL repair.

Trip went great, car is a dream to drive on this kind of trip. No new CEL, car ran fine, and I averaged 19.7 mpg for the round trip.

About 50/50 driving manual and cruise. Mix of slow traffic and ~80 mph - thankfully more of the latter.

Hoping the CEL issue has a stake through its heart now.

He might want to know that the car won't actually be $121,204, either...

[been at the VPC since 9/17]

*rolls eyes*

Looking at Autotrader, there are at least 3 dealers who are optimistically listing 2019s.

Hi, all. New member here. Came here looking for hints as to why my MY 2019 E63S has been sitting at the port in Baltimore since late August. Clearly I came to the right place.

My wife had a series of 3 GL's until last year, but this was my first time ordering a build-to-order car, and my first AMG.
I ordered my car in June, and was given an early August build date, and told that the car could arrive as early as the last week of September or beginning of October. I was warned by my salesperson that the builds on the AMG's are sometimes delayed due to short supply of AMG-specific equipment that may only be produced in batches when there is a certain amount of demand. So, I patiently waited until late August to contact the dealer about the status of my car. I was thrilled when I was told that the car had arrived in Baltimore. Less so, though, when I was told that there was no release date for the car, no pricing information on the 2019 cars, and no knowledge of when the cars would be released from port. I waited 3 more weeks to contact them again, got the same exact reply, and then emailed again yesterday. Same reply. Same denial of any knowledge whatsoever of what is going on. And this from a very long-term, senior salesperson at one of the country's highest volume MB dealers.

I'm sure my experience is not unique, but it sure is frustrating. Has anyone else received hard pricing info on their not-yet-released or ordered-but-not-arrived cars? I am beginning to lose confidence that the dealer is acting in good faith given the information presented in this thread.

There's nothing your dealer can do but relay the information they are told by MBUSA. This is a MBUSA issue/decision. Clearly many of us are in the same situation and have also not received concrete info from dealers. What in this thread has made you lose confidence in what your dealer has told you? I havent seen one person post saying they have any more detailed information than you have received, except that the cars are set to arrive to the dealerships in November or December.

Well, it certainly seems that by August, when this thread originated, there was information available to dealers that the E63's wouldn't be released until December. Why is that common knowledge among members here but my dealer is claiming total ignorance as of yesterday? That's all. I have ordered a number of build-to order Porsches and my dealer was always very transparent about the entire process. When I wanted to order a limited-run car they were very up-front about the prospects for getting a build slot, how long it might take, what anticipated dealer markups were likely to be, ie. all the information I needed to make an informed decision about whether I wanted to proceed. I just don't like being jerked around and I am wondering whether the dealer is jerking me around with proclamations of ignorance.

Welcome to the VPC gulag! There is no question that the ever-moving release timelines for the 2019 have appeared in various powerpoint presentations. I don't know who has access to that information. But it has been posted here on the board, which is telling. It has also changed a bit over time. And there is also apparently a history here where cars are not always released according to the timeline (as some have said). I think that an experienced dealer would have said, "here is the likely schedule for production and delivery, but possible that the cars will not be immediately released - there is a history of MBUSA holding cars and we don't have control over that." No question that some dealers gave that message to customers. And clearly that has occurred and the timeline has slipped. But no question that the dealers want to release the cars and make customers happy. And it is not the dealer's fault that MBUSA is not being transparent about the reason for holding these cars. It does make a difference, obviously, if we knew. But if it is a CEL fix, for example, they might not want us to know about it. My view is that someone was late doing the emissions submission - as we are still waiting for them.

Dealers were told Q4 2018. The graphic seemed to indicate December by the way it was all spaced out, but you can search on this forum in other model-related threads for representations (either first hand or otherwise) from dealers saying November, some saying December....When you ordered the Porsches, were they subject to being held up at the VPC en masse like here? Were the subject to newer emissions regulations or CARB certifications? How do you know you are comparing apples to apple with how PCNA operates and how MBUSA does. The fact that the dealer may not be able to provide you with the detailed information you are seeking -- because they themselves dont have it -- doesnt mean they are holding out on you. Initially dealer reps on this thread and other said they still heard late September was a possibility. Obviously that didnt happen.

Im not begrudging you being frustrated -- many of us are. But I wouldnt let anecdotal evidence in this thread serve as a basis to accuse your salesperson/dealer of jerking you around.

From the GLC43/63 forum:

From my SA - Despite the fact that our ship arrived safely, we are at the mercy of the US Government clearing our newest models for release. Every new arrival must now be re-certified...thank you VW and Diesel-gate...with a watchful eye on emissions, before being released. We will continue to put pressure on Mercedes-Benz Distribution, and I will continue to monitor and keep you posted. From new car Sales Manager -

I just called distribution & here is the latest info:

2019 GLC 43/63….. November ( not sure when in November).
2019 CLS 450 …November
2019 G500 late October
2019 G63 mid December
2019 S560…. October
2019 S560X Maybach …November
2019 E63…December
2019 GLS 63 ….late October
2019 GT series …December
2019 GT4….1st ¼ of 2019
2019 C 43 class…November
2019 C63 class….December
2020 GLE order banks will open probably in December

Thanks,Donnie MooreSales Manager
RBM of Alpharetta
678-637-2333 Office404-984-6948 Cell678-987-0777 Faxrbmofalpharetta.com

Obviously I wasnt privy to this conversation or email first hand, but my guess would be anytime in December is what was meant. I think putting "mid" or "late" or "early" is just MBUSA trying to give the dealers more "clarity" -- to either soothe the dealers, for the dealers to turn around and placate the customer and/or both.

I think the next friend or acquaintance that asks me "so when does your car get here," I'll have to lie and say that the car is here but I am not revealing it until November or December during a made for TV primetime special.

lol pertplus me too. I told everyone I would get it in September and now have to have the same conversation over and over. I'm starting to wonder what else my 130k could get me.

:( sorry ya'll.. I wish we had more answers from the dealer level. I can say we get into heated conversations with MBUSA... it greatly affects my pay

None of these holds are due to emissions or testing. The E63 was certified in May or June last year and didn't go on sale until October. It's just marketing. As soon as the 2019 C class was released for sale the commercials started. It's all part of a plan and release schedule.

The CARB Executive Orders are for each MY.

For example, here is the GLC63 for MY2018. Issued on August 24, 2017.

https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad..._4d0_u3-70.pdf

Here is the GLC63 for MY2019, issued on August 31, 2017.

https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad..._4d0_u3-70.pdf

Why would they issue an EOs for a new model year for the GLC63 if they could rely on the 2018 EO? It is pretty clear that they need to submit a certification request for each MY. And there is no Executive Order for the 2019 E63S. Only a 2018 EO.

And these are US-specific emission regulations, which explains why a UK car would be released.

So seems like MBUSA cannot release the cars even if they want to because there is no 2019 certification. As I've said, likely a screw-up in the legal department or somewhere else. Or who knows, maybe CARB is backed-up and they said, "we are behind in doing the EOs, so prioritize the models you want us to certify first." And the E63 was put last on the list. This is the most likely explanation.

I don't know why they are waiting. But it seems that certification is a predicate for release. In other words, they need the EO before they can release the car, so it would make sense that they would apply for as many EOs as they can and as soon as they can so they have the flexibility to decide when to launch. It would not be a good regulatory strategy to wait until the last minute to get a certification. So likely that there is some reason why the certifications have not been issued yet. As you point out, at the same time, we could get the EO tomorrow and they could still wait until December to release the cars.

Agreed. 2018 is my deadline. New Year's Day I am at another dealer shopping.

You guys are generous, Im only giving them until Dec.1st then they lose a loyal customer for life. Seems like every year this company is getting worse for quality and customer service.

Yea thats fair.. I couldnt blame anyone is by xmas/new years they dont have their cars.

Will there be any concession from the dealers to all the customers waiting 4-5 months for really no good reason other than marketing??

Yea i really dont think it will be.. theyve been saying Nov, possibly Dec for the last two months ish? No change..

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Maybe?

:rolf:

I ordered the sedan last week which is scheduled to be built in December and delivered in January, according to the dealership. Seeing all the delivery delays in this thread I'm already expecting February to be more realistic of a target. I just hope that target doesn't get pushed even further into the year. Sometimes I wonder if my dealer said January vs something even later just so that I would place my order with them. I'm hoping the dealer and my interests align and they would like to get paid ASAP so they will try to get me the vehicle ASAP.

As far as pricing, like Benowen said, they went with a base price of $106,350 but did caution that the official MSRP from MBUSA could end up being higher, or lower (yeah right). Dealer went $106,350 + all options - 6% discount off the total.

I paid $2100 to have it trucked, enclosed, from Baltimore to the Bay Area. Took about a week. Offset my discount a bit, but as it turns out, just glad I got my car!

Not sure if that is the case or not, but I haven't had to do anything like that yet. Make sure you have your smog certificate before you register at the DMV. The hardest part was shelling out $14,500 for sales tax for the right to live in our lovely state of California.

Do you pay property tax on cars in CA? VA car sales tax is 4% (had been 3% forever before last year) but then you have to pay ~2-3% (based on your county) of the appraised value of the car every year, for as long as you own the car.

Wow, that is quite a lot of tax! I'm in California but my tax came out to $9800. Did you get yours fully loaded?

You are correct. Not sure why the don’t allow MSDs, I lived in So Cal for 6 years, wish I never left!

Try 5% in car tax.

we are 6.35% in CT and 7.75% if the vehicle is over 50k for registration for sales tax. If it is a CT (local) dealership they will not allow you to pay sales tax upfront (some sort of rule). Additionally, each town/city also has an excise use tax where you get a tax bill every year based on a mill rate for just owning your vehicle. The cost of ownership when you purchase high end vehicles here is highway robbery with the additional taxes the state imposes. I lease everything to get the write offs and maximize savings.

Mine is pretty much fully loaded, except for not having Magno paint. Our sales tax is 9.75% I believe, but your right now that I think about it. The $14500 had to include the registration fee since I bought it out of state. The check was still the same though! :mad:

Oh ok, yeah that makes sense. My build's MSRP is coming out to $134,450 pre-discount. Dealer is providing a discount of $8,666 for a purchase price of $125,784. CA sales tax is $9800 and CA registration is $1350, so $11,150 in tax+registration. Ouch.

Right. According to the dealer there will be a temp registration fee of $600 that I will have to pay if I drive it off the lot. :mad:

Awesome I'll look into that you might have just saved me 500 bucks!

I looked around on AMG Private lounge, couldn't seem to find it. Any idea where the link or code is?

You, sir, are my hero.

Oddly the language reports that you have to wait 30 days AFTER applying for the coupon, which clearly this thread indicates will happen. So, MBUSA, your marketing delay has already cost you 500 dollars. Was it worth it?

This certificate thing is amazing... It's so circular since you gain membership through a VIN from the car I'm going to use the certificate on.