Time for new tires
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Time for new tires
just visited a local Mercedes dealer and for a noise complain coming from the front end and specially when the car is cold and you turn the steering all the way left or right there is a big clicking noise feels like something is about to break from come loose from the wheels , anyways after the technician test drove it he said it’s a common issue with the new Amg cars due to the aggressive tires 🤔🤔🤔🤔 however he ended up advising replacing the front tires but not the rear since they still have some meat in em , $1500 for front tires including $700 just for an alignment 🤔🤔 I’m at a point where I’m thinking should I go for it or just starting looking for some nice wheels like adv1 or HRE , have you guys experienced any of the issues I mentioned
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$700 for an alignment? Are you certain about that. My dealer charged $115 for a 4 wheel alignment. 4 tires for all seasons would be $1000, PS4s would be $1300.
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🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Who do U recommend to mount and balance them , I was thinking the dealer would be responsible for any wheel damage during the installation, plus they offered 2 years free warranty if any think like nails free replacement
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Look at the website. Tirerack will recommend a facility to mount and balance the tires. Process works well and they also offer road hazard warranty for free. You probably won't get two years of wear out of the tires anyway. 😀
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Second. Tirerack recommended installers are a good deal. You know the price up front (it's there when you buy the tires) and Tirerack ships the tires directly to them. It's very convenient and way cheaper than the dealer. Considering the way AMGs eat rubber, it's the only way to go.
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Second. Tirerack recommended installers are a good deal. You know the price up front (it's there when you buy the tires) and Tirerack ships the tires directly to them. It's very convenient and way cheaper than the dealer. Considering the way AMGs eat rubber, it's the only way to go.
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just visited a local Mercedes dealer and for a noise complain coming from the front end and specially when the car is cold and you turn the steering all the way left or right there is a big clicking noise feels like something is about to break from come loose from the wheels , anyways after the technician test drove it he said it’s a common issue with the new Amg cars due to the aggressive tires 🤔🤔🤔🤔
I'm surprised the tech thought our stock setup was aggressive?
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that’s exactly what I’ve been experiencing specially after that car has been parked for s couple of hours . I’m taking it to a different Mercedes dealer on Tuesday for a second opinion
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Looks like Hberman and others have you sorted; to add, definitely shop around a bit for services like alignments and products like tires. Likely you can find much better deals. Regarding 700 for an alignment, I can't read the paper detailing what you get for that amount of money, but seems very high. I take my low (very low) car to a shop that has a particular type of setup, and they only charge 155 I believe.
Regarding the tire skipping thing, if in fact that is what is going on, yep, it's normal. Mine does it even worse now that it's on larger wheels and lower profile Michelins.
At 10k miles, you could very well need new front tires...I did. Only up front, and only one of the tires was really done. Cords were showing on the inside of the driver side front tire, due to the negative camber. I didn't get an alignment right after lowering my car, which is likely why only one wore so quickly.
Regarding the tire skipping thing, if in fact that is what is going on, yep, it's normal. Mine does it even worse now that it's on larger wheels and lower profile Michelins.
At 10k miles, you could very well need new front tires...I did. Only up front, and only one of the tires was really done. Cords were showing on the inside of the driver side front tire, due to the negative camber. I didn't get an alignment right after lowering my car, which is likely why only one wore so quickly.
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plus my car isn’t lowered yet even though I have placed an order for a new lowering module and it should arrive soon , should I wait till I lower the car then replace the tires and alligen it ? Not sure now , I have heard I need to align the car after lowering it with the lowering module 🤔🤔
As you lower your car you increase the negative camber, there is no factory adjustment for camber. The F1 arm is the only way to bet proper alignment even when not lowered.
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If you lower your car the front tires will last maybe 4,000 mi. if you don't replace the upper control arm.
As you lower your car you increase the negative camber, there is no factory adjustment for camber. The F1 arm is the only way to bet proper alignment even when not lowered.
As you lower your car you increase the negative camber, there is no factory adjustment for camber. The F1 arm is the only way to bet proper alignment even when not lowered.
BTW, I disagree with the statement that tires will last in 6k miles. I did seasonal tire change at 6800 miles back in November and my summer tires are like new or 90% life left... I lowered my car a week later after I bought that but I did the alignment after that too. Can post pictures later Yes, I agree camber on the front axle is extremely crazy for the daily car but still will not kill tires in 4-6k miles.
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I cannot understand why you're keeping advertise those arms after you said in the different threat they are **** or so, as the bushings that you have been used before arms )))
BTW, I disagree with the statement that tires will last in 6k miles. I did seasonal tire change at 6800 miles back in November and my summer tires are like new or 90% life left... I lowered my car a week later after I bought that but I did the alignment after that too. Can post pictures later Yes, I agree camber on the front axle is extremely crazy for the daily car but still will not kill tires in 4-6k miles.
BTW, I disagree with the statement that tires will last in 6k miles. I did seasonal tire change at 6800 miles back in November and my summer tires are like new or 90% life left... I lowered my car a week later after I bought that but I did the alignment after that too. Can post pictures later Yes, I agree camber on the front axle is extremely crazy for the daily car but still will not kill tires in 4-6k miles.
F1 were able to produce a set with OEM rubber bushings for me after I said I would do the R$D.
There are a few more guys buying them now that I have proven that they work as I wanted them to..silently
If you are not killing the 1.5" of tire on the inside before and after lowering you are not driving..
Don't believe me I don'r care, taking advice from someone that is trying to help and knows what he's talking about is up to you.
Enjoy replacing your tires again
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My dealer replaced all four tires with Michelin PS4S and did a 4-wheel alignment for $1800. $1500 for two plus the alignment seems quite pricey.
My front tires were pretty much done at 10 k miles and rear were still OK. Stock were Pirelli so I wanted to make the switch to Michelin anyway.
Was going to finish the rears with a nice drift mode session, but ended up getting a puncture of the right rear tire in the sidewall the weekend before I was going to bring the car in So the drift mode session will have to wait.
Had kind of expected the rear tires to wear first since when driving in Sport+ and Race mode the rear will spin up and step out a bit before the front, but looks like the aggressive camber setting is wearing the inner side of the front tires at a higher rate than the little bit of wear that comes from the rear stepping out.
My front tires were pretty much done at 10 k miles and rear were still OK. Stock were Pirelli so I wanted to make the switch to Michelin anyway.
Was going to finish the rears with a nice drift mode session, but ended up getting a puncture of the right rear tire in the sidewall the weekend before I was going to bring the car in So the drift mode session will have to wait.
Had kind of expected the rear tires to wear first since when driving in Sport+ and Race mode the rear will spin up and step out a bit before the front, but looks like the aggressive camber setting is wearing the inner side of the front tires at a higher rate than the little bit of wear that comes from the rear stepping out.
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I guess you need to read my posts a little slower.
F1 were able to produce a set with OEM rubber bushings for me after I said I would do the R$D.
There are a few more guys buying them now that I have proven that they work as I wanted them to..silently
If you are not killing the 1.5" of tire on the inside before and after lowering you are not driving..
Don't believe me I don'r care, taking advice from someone that is trying to help and knows what he's talking about is up to you.
Enjoy replacing your tires again
F1 were able to produce a set with OEM rubber bushings for me after I said I would do the R$D.
There are a few more guys buying them now that I have proven that they work as I wanted them to..silently
If you are not killing the 1.5" of tire on the inside before and after lowering you are not driving..
Don't believe me I don'r care, taking advice from someone that is trying to help and knows what he's talking about is up to you.
Enjoy replacing your tires again
I did not say "I don't believe you" - I said I don't have that issue as you have after over 6000 miles daily driving. If you mean "<..>you don't drive<..>" - by driving canyons every day as you do (again by other thread) you're right I don't, but that means the reason why your tires are dead - canyons, not camber.
I had issues with front brakes and tires on my previous R35 GT-R after every track day, but I was not saying "Nissan made ****ty brakes and you need to buy another brakes and tires <...>" - just because track day will kill brakes, tires and etc. Same about canyon driving, drifting, etc.
I don't believe that AMG's engineers or MB will do **** in this field as suspension. Again, yes, camber is too big for that car, but not enough in order to kill tires in 4k miles. This thing is super personal and will change by different driving styles.