Stock car dyno run
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Stock car dyno run
If someone is curious what are real numbers before any tune.
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Hey Mandarin. Are those crank or wheel numbers?? Also what’s the difference between the first and second run? Thanks.
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If you look at the second sheet it shows "SAE" up top for the correction factor where the first is "uncorrected". SAE is calibrated for specific air temperature and barometric pressure baseline numbers to produce the dyno correction factor used in the chart. If you google "sae correction factor" you can find some pages with specific details about it.
Last edited by dkgreenr; 03-31-2019 at 01:04 PM.
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So which numbers are the more accurate ones to go by?
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The SAE correction is pretty much an industry standard. Otherwise, testing conditions will skew the numbers.
But dynos measure power at the wheels while car makers quote power at the crank. Applying even conservative wheel HP to crank HP correction puts this at close to 700 hp!
https://www.mk5cortinaestate.co.uk/calculator4.php
It's consistent with what most others have observed. Look at Renntech's STOCK numbers:
https://www.renntechmercedes.com/ind...13-e63s-detail
But dynos measure power at the wheels while car makers quote power at the crank. Applying even conservative wheel HP to crank HP correction puts this at close to 700 hp!
https://www.mk5cortinaestate.co.uk/calculator4.php
It's consistent with what most others have observed. Look at Renntech's STOCK numbers:
https://www.renntechmercedes.com/ind...13-e63s-detail
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Mandarin (04-02-2019)
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In order to get crank’s numbers take a number on the paper and multiply to 1.15.
About corrections, there is a beautiful reply above
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whoover (04-01-2019)
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Which raises another question. Is this a four-wheel dyno? I do know that these wheel numbers are similar to ones seen with four-wheel dynos but I don't know anything about how this engine was tested. In any case, all the tuners admit the stock baseline is around 690 peak hp. I have no idea why MB derates this engine so much. Leave room for higher power claims in more expensive cars?
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Mandarin (04-02-2019)
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1.2 is probably more accurate because of the all-wheel drive. You're accounting for total drivetrain losses and we have an extra two differentials to account for.
Which raises another question. Is this a four-wheel dyno? I do know that these wheel numbers are similar to ones seen with four-wheel dynos but I don't know anything about how this engine was tested. In any case, all the tuners admit the stock baseline is around 690 peak hp. I have no idea why MB derates this engine so much. Leave room for higher power claims in more expensive cars?
Which raises another question. Is this a four-wheel dyno? I do know that these wheel numbers are similar to ones seen with four-wheel dynos but I don't know anything about how this engine was tested. In any case, all the tuners admit the stock baseline is around 690 peak hp. I have no idea why MB derates this engine so much. Leave room for higher power claims in more expensive cars?
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I have no idea who would test a car on a dyno with drift mode... If you going to tune it, a shop or you should now all specific things.