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M177 KRATOS Turbos

Old May 7, 2019 | 10:59 AM
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M177 KRATOS Turbos

https://asrkratos.com/

Not sure if it is vaporware or not (seems you can't purchase it and they missed their deadline of Q1 2019)

Saw the post over here: https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1557398

Surprised we haven't had a post about it here yet.

How much more power can E63S block + tranny + internals handle before needing upgrades?
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Old May 8, 2019 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
https://asrkratos.com/

Not sure if it is vaporware or not (seems you can't purchase it and they missed their deadline of Q1 2019)

Saw the post over here: https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1557398

Surprised we haven't had a post about it here yet.

How much more power can E63S block + tranny + internals handle before needing upgrades?
Give it a shot since you blew your warrantee already..
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Old May 8, 2019 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ronin amg
Give it a shot since you blew your warrantee already..
They told me in June they will have some M177 beta stuff ready.

Do you think I will blow something else with upgraded turbos like this? Tranny components specifically? Maybe just no hard launches...
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Old May 15, 2019 | 02:20 AM
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The transmission doesn't blow. Hard launch could theoretically break a differential gear or something similar but the launch controller will not allow you to launch that hard. Doesn't matter how much power you have the launch will be the same.

When the transmission fails it's because of clutch slipping. The car will still drive okay on the street.
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Originally Posted by e65
The transmission doesn't blow. Hard launch could theoretically break a differential gear or something similar but the launch controller will not allow you to launch that hard. Doesn't matter how much power you have the launch will be the same.

When the transmission fails it's because of clutch slipping. The car will still drive okay on the street.
So the transmission upgrades everybody talks about are just clutches?
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generally yes 🙂
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