2019 MB E63S AMG Worst AMG i have owned
05-23-2019, 06:47 AM
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I have a McLaren 12C sitting in my garage... Ill take the E63 all day long... but then I'm not trying to race Teslas or Mod the **** out of "cars" ….. but I will say that even the 14 yo neighbor kid foams at the mouth over the wagon.....
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05-23-2019, 11:03 AM
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Life's too short to keep car of this value if you don't dig it. Like many others here, I think the m5c would be perfect for you and check all the boxes. It's a really good package with much less race car feel, while actually being quicker than the e63. Looks are subjective of course, but lowered and wheels,etc, m5 is a cool looking car. The interior is identical to our x1 interior/dash which is a shame, but it's highly functional and intuitive. Drive it again and then make your decision. Couple cents for ya.
05-23-2019, 11:21 AM
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2018 S560 and 2019 E450 Wagon.
Agree with the above posts if unhappy with the car why keep it? Given the right driving conditions I probably would have kept my E63 amg wagon. That is if I lived in a area that had a lot of smooth canyon roads or a place where I could really use the speed and performance of this car. Both areas I drive in though are not well suited to this type of car, Florida is a densely packed area and I'm mostly stuck at traffic lights or in traffic jams and then on I75 there are speed traps all over place and speeding is a pretty serious thing in Florida. Then in Rhode Island the roads are horrible and it's all bumps and potholes and a lot of the roads are 35 mph type roads. It just made no sense. It would have been one thing if the 2018 was more like my 2012 and more of a everything car and more comfortable but when MB redesigned the car in 2018 it was geared a lot more towards race as has been discussed. But, ya get rid of the car and take the loss, why take another 15K hit over the next year if your not going to be happy with the car? Can't hurt to see what BMW will give you for trading in the AMG for a M5.
05-23-2019, 05:05 PM
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ecu tune; edok tcu tune; BB intakes; dyno tuned
Sell it and move on. You'll never be happy in this car.
05-23-2019, 05:38 PM
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Tire road noise from front end. I have Michelin S-4s on other cars that do not make noise. On this vehicle the front suspension amplifies the road
the road surface so that the vibrations come up through the drivers side foot well and pedals. Had S-4s on my last CLS 63s AMG and no issue??
the road surface so that the vibrations come up through the drivers side foot well and pedals. Had S-4s on my last CLS 63s AMG and no issue??
Seats. We have the standard seats not the sport seats. These are the most uncomfortable seats in any of the AMG vehicles that I have owned.
We took a trip form Newport Beach to Las Vegas (relatives) for Mothers Day and my wife reallly complained about the seats (she never
complains).
We took a trip form Newport Beach to Las Vegas (relatives) for Mothers Day and my wife reallly complained about the seats (she never
complains).
CAUTION: If you are interested in a E63S make sure you drive one first and then make a choice. On trips we will now take our 2017 GLE 63S AMG with the
superior seats.
NOTE: The car is quick as hell and has a pretty dash however the nav system is a step backward from 2017 and earlier MB nav systems.
The 2019 E63S AMG to me is a work in progress, about 80% of what it could be. The 2015 CLS AMG 63S I had with the 5.5 ltr twin turbo and all wheel
drive is the superior vehicle by a wide margin, and it looks a way lot better.
Good Luck!
superior seats.
NOTE: The car is quick as hell and has a pretty dash however the nav system is a step backward from 2017 and earlier MB nav systems.
The 2019 E63S AMG to me is a work in progress, about 80% of what it could be. The 2015 CLS AMG 63S I had with the 5.5 ltr twin turbo and all wheel
drive is the superior vehicle by a wide margin, and it looks a way lot better.
Good Luck!
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05-23-2019, 08:03 PM
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...I chose the E63s because it is a much more exciting car than the M5--stands out more--doesn't look like a run of the mill E class. No matter where I am or where I go I have people admiring it, asking me about it--in fact it gets way more attention than my Porsche Turbo.....
05-23-2019, 08:34 PM
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Yikes! I wouldn't be making a decision based on a vehicle virgins review! I'm much more partial to Chris Harris' review of the E63S.
Having owned a 212 and 213 gen, I can tell you the W212 felt much better in terms of ride quality and seat comfort.
The 213 took a few thousand miles but it quickly grew on me and I learned to enjoy it for what it is. People in general can be very particular about configurations, settings, and other appointments in the vehicle for various reasons; fortunately in my case I am more of an adaptive driver and can adjust to the situation at hand.
You are always going to sacrifice something, you just need to figure out what thats going to be, more $$, duller looking, better ride comfort, etc.
I can see your frustration especially if the vehicle was a purchase over a lease. FWIW my wife also complained about the seat comfort as well but then again mine is always complaining.
good luck with your decision!
Having owned a 212 and 213 gen, I can tell you the W212 felt much better in terms of ride quality and seat comfort.
The 213 took a few thousand miles but it quickly grew on me and I learned to enjoy it for what it is. People in general can be very particular about configurations, settings, and other appointments in the vehicle for various reasons; fortunately in my case I am more of an adaptive driver and can adjust to the situation at hand.
You are always going to sacrifice something, you just need to figure out what thats going to be, more $$, duller looking, better ride comfort, etc.
I can see your frustration especially if the vehicle was a purchase over a lease. FWIW my wife also complained about the seat comfort as well but then again mine is always complaining.
good luck with your decision!
11-27-2019, 07:31 AM
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2019 Mercedes GLE63s AMG Coupe
So, you didn't mention the one thing I'm experiencing on my 2019 GLE 63s AMG. When backing up and turning the steering wheel to full left I get a horrendous clunking sound from the right front wheel/axle area. I haven't been able to replicate it with the wheel full right. The dealer says it's tire skip. I've heard tire skip and it never sounded like this. Anyone else have this phenomenon and have you confirmed what the heck it is? I'm planning on buying a Hero camera to mount to the frame to watch what's going on in this area to see if I can identify it.
11-27-2019, 10:56 AM
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So, you didn't mention the one thing I'm experiencing on my 2019 GLE 63s AMG. When backing up and turning the steering wheel to full left I get a horrendous clunking sound from the right front wheel/axle area. I haven't been able to replicate it with the wheel full right. The dealer says it's tire skip. I've heard tire skip and it never sounded like this. Anyone else have this phenomenon and have you confirmed what the heck it is? I'm planning on buying a Hero camera to mount to the frame to watch what's going on in this area to see if I can identify it.
This document includes a video and describes this issue in detail. Applies also to S63 and other models.
Check tightening moments of both lower control arms and if you have the possibility, replace them. That's what I did.
11-27-2019, 01:16 PM
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The worst AMG I have ever owned
There is an internal service document describing this issue - I have seen it while sitting next to the chief technical advisor of our local Mercedes-Benz. He explained to me it is a pain in the *** for them to deal with it and rather talk their customers out of trying to fix it by saying "Can't replicate", "Can't hear it", etc.
This document includes a video and describes this issue in detail. Applies also to S63 and other models.
Check tightening moments of both lower control arms and if you have the possibility, replace them. That's what I did.
This document includes a video and describes this issue in detail. Applies also to S63 and other models.
Check tightening moments of both lower control arms and if you have the possibility, replace them. That's what I did.
11-27-2019, 02:32 PM
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Sorry if this is a repeat as I lost my last reply.
Thanks for the reply. I was able to confirm the noise. It was tire slip on the pavement associated with tight suspension and drive train when in full steer while backing up. Sorry for your experience. Mine has been awesome! No issues as you have described with noise. Mine is a GLE 63s Coupe. Not sure if that's what you have. I'm running on Continental ContisportContacts. Mabye that's the difference in road noise. Putting on Pirelli Scorpion Winters in the next couple weeks as the snow is beginning to fall. Will let you know how they sound.
Thanks for the reply. I was able to confirm the noise. It was tire slip on the pavement associated with tight suspension and drive train when in full steer while backing up. Sorry for your experience. Mine has been awesome! No issues as you have described with noise. Mine is a GLE 63s Coupe. Not sure if that's what you have. I'm running on Continental ContisportContacts. Mabye that's the difference in road noise. Putting on Pirelli Scorpion Winters in the next couple weeks as the snow is beginning to fall. Will let you know how they sound.
11-27-2019, 06:28 PM
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Can you guys elaborate on what you mean by tire slip and how it can be confirmed? On my E63S backing up at full steer I get a gigantic clunking noise and could never figure out what was causing it. Always though it was loose tie rods or something and figured I would just complain to the dealer about it next time I took it in.
11-27-2019, 07:16 PM
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Jesus, what drama!
The car is exactly what it is designed to do!
Is it as soft as a M5? No, but change tyres and it’s not bad.
Is it as smooth as a Panamera? No, but buy a Havana hat and some slippers.
Is it as quiet as either on the road? No, get some ear plugs and have a nap!
Is it a unbelievable, rip roaring, blood thirsty, loud bloody awesome ride? Hell Yes!
I had all these little niggles and complaints when I first got it, is the M5 a more complete car? Yes probably.
But this car is the most incredible, emotional, wonderful car and it’s got character! I. In a day and age when every body is going electric, saving the environment and being wonderfully PC and generally towing the line, this car doesn’t do that.
I could swap it tomorrow for the new RS6 or back to the M5 but I won’t because I bloody love it, it looks awesome, it sounds awesome and it’s awesome to drive!
#loveamg
The car is exactly what it is designed to do!
Is it as soft as a M5? No, but change tyres and it’s not bad.
Is it as smooth as a Panamera? No, but buy a Havana hat and some slippers.
Is it as quiet as either on the road? No, get some ear plugs and have a nap!
Is it a unbelievable, rip roaring, blood thirsty, loud bloody awesome ride? Hell Yes!
I had all these little niggles and complaints when I first got it, is the M5 a more complete car? Yes probably.
But this car is the most incredible, emotional, wonderful car and it’s got character! I. In a day and age when every body is going electric, saving the environment and being wonderfully PC and generally towing the line, this car doesn’t do that.
I could swap it tomorrow for the new RS6 or back to the M5 but I won’t because I bloody love it, it looks awesome, it sounds awesome and it’s awesome to drive!
#loveamg
11-27-2019, 11:13 PM
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This is my 5th amg also and I totally disagree with you. My favorite one so far. Loved my 2008 with the pp1 package, the na engine was magic
I drive in s+ at all times, car has seen comfort mode in break in period only. To each their own.
I drive in s+ at all times, car has seen comfort mode in break in period only. To each their own.
11-28-2019, 09:35 AM
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'22 Alpina B7,'21 G63 Renntech obviously (wife), Wrangler(kids)
I had all generations before, from E500 through E55 , last one being 2014 E63S, loved them all.
They were always used as daily drivers and semi compliant ride is a must in Chicago, the current model is just to stiff for my back to handle (dropped from a bridge 30ft down to a creek during a rally in 1981, I was a navigator for a guy who thought I was too conservative with my instructions, ended up with 2 collapsed discs).
S63 became my compromise so I modified the hell out of it, maybe can't beat a Tesla in 0-60 but plenty fast for me.
They were always used as daily drivers and semi compliant ride is a must in Chicago, the current model is just to stiff for my back to handle (dropped from a bridge 30ft down to a creek during a rally in 1981, I was a navigator for a guy who thought I was too conservative with my instructions, ended up with 2 collapsed discs).
S63 became my compromise so I modified the hell out of it, maybe can't beat a Tesla in 0-60 but plenty fast for me.
11-28-2019, 11:05 AM
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OMG, so many complaints about this amazing car. I too have been fortunate to drive an E500 which was an incredible car for its time. After that I had a 1999 E 55, a 2006 E55, 2012 E63 and now a 2018 E63S. Every generation was better then the last. All my cars always got so much attention as I was fanatical in keeping them as looking great regardless of the crappy weather in Chicago. BTW every MB I had were bulletproof, never a major problem ever. This 2018 is the BEST car ive owned. Fast as hell, yes rides stiff but that is the way it was designed to be. I can’t understand so many people on this site complaining about a car that is what it is. Do they actually drive or research before buying A CAR. I get every car magazine and read extensively about this generation. All articles were right on about the idiosyncrasies of this car. The day I test drove it I knew this was the best ever. BTW- Came with sport exhaust and every option except CCB. Blk, Blk, comfort seats. Everywhere I go people look and comment. MB created the perfect car for ME. Finally had 6 or 7 BMW’s in mid seventies and 80’s. Switched to MB’s in late 80’s and never looked back. Will be a AMG man forever. Cheers and just enjoy this MONSTER.
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11-28-2019, 07:58 PM
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What do nannies or retirement have to do with it? The M5 has a softer (less harsh) ride yet arguably handles better. The RS7 kills the E63 if you’re into tuning and 1/4mile performance. And neither one of their interiors rattle like the MB!
11-29-2019, 12:31 PM
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I had a 2016 C63S. It had quite a few rattles and was harsh as hell. I switched to all seasons for compliance. The 2019 E63S I traded for is vault solid. No rattle or squick anywhere. I guess its hit or miss with these cars.
