22withCLasS

I agree with SL2003driver, however, I'm not against the Twin Turbo!

SL2003driver

It would be great to have the option to not have options. I don't need power seats, or lane control, or navigation system, etc. Give me a big powerful engine, a 6 speed manual transmission, a mechical suspension not the fancy problem laden hydro/airmatic suspension, you get the idea. Now when it comes to safety some of these systems are life savers but you should be able to turn them off if you want.

SL2003driver

If you do that you will be breaking the rules of the AMG private lounge and will be kicked out of that forum. Turbotom if you think its a good idea why don't you post the question in the AMG lounge and then post it here. Oh wait I think I know why??? You don't want to lose your membership in the AMG lounge but you don't care if someone else does

SL2003driver

Got this private message from turbotom1, did not realize that I needed permission to post in a thread that someone starts on this site. Thanks for the heads up, turbotom1



Private Message: CLS fun facts
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2009 CLS63

turbotom1

Oh well, it had to happen to the thread at some point.

Thread was a resource about the CLS with pictures, facts and small details only serious owners really care about.

A. Your totally off topic for this thread. There are plenty of threads you can post in and share your personal myopic views.

B. New cars are safer than ever and have bumper to bumper warranties. Actually when cars had points and went to computers there were many many problems but continual improvements eliminated these inconveniences. Now there is no going back, computers are here to stay, so sorry.

Given time these new features, like lane assist and self parking will become common even in kia's and Hyundai's and very reliable to the point of mundane, so sorry.

C. Private lounge is just a forum like this and everyone cross posts between them, so sorry.

turbotom1

Even before the next-generation 2012 Mercedes-Benz CLS has been released, German-based tuner company Carlsson has revealed their own upgraded version, if only as photoshopped images.

The Carlsson CLS gets new front and rear bumpers, with side-skirts as well. Behind, the rear bumper has a built-in diffuser kit which surrounds the new exhaust system, sporting a stainless-steel rear silencer and double oval tailpipes. A choice of 19-inch or 20-inch rims is offered, designed by Carlsson. A new suspension lowers the car 30 mm from the original spec. The interior upgrades include an Alcantara steering wheel and the pedals get some brushed aluminium.

plecls

I need some help I just owned a CLS 550 what is the best to lower the CLS

RRnelcheeze

ELM - Electronic Lowering Module, made by Renntech, Brabus, Carlsson, and a few others. the ELM is your only option.

turbotom1

2012 CLS63 interior with carbon fiber

turbotom1

2012 CLS63 carbon fiber mirrors
Factory:

Centurion

Very cool!
I wonder how much it would be to buy a pair....

Vossen Wheels

Nice factory work...I've been reading this thread for a couple of days...thanks for the info!

curtisG

And wonder if they would fit a 2009 CLS63?

turbotom1

Seat Belts and Head Restraints

Dynamic Head Restraint: Driver, Front Passenger
Progressive Load Limiting: Standard
Adjustable Upper Belt Anchorage: Driver, Front Passenger
Head Restraints: Driver, Front Passenger, Rear Seat

Air Bags

Head Protection: Driver, Front Passenger, Rear Seat
Torso Protection: Driver, Front Passenger
Pelvis Protection: Driver, Front Passenger
Knee Protection: Not Available
Side Air Bag Out-of-Position Testing: Yes

Child Passenger Features

LATCH Locations: Rear Seat
Safety Power Windows (Anti-Pinch): Not Available
Safety Power Windows (Anti-Pinch) locations: Not Available

http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shop...vehicleId=6364

2012 Mercedes-Benz Cls-Class 4 DR RWD

Overall Rating Not Rated
frontal crash Not Rated
side crash Not Rated
rollover crash Not Rated

The 2012 E class did get 5 stars for rollover so you can assume the CLS also will.
http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shop...LASS&year=2012

turbotom1

Clean shot.

turbotom1

2012 CLS63 modified by Carlson
http://www.carlsson.de/carlsson/en/index.php

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/carlsso...-ar105632.html

turbotom1

2012 Mercedes CLS 63 AMG has been released under the Black Bison line of tuning kits from WALD International.

http://www.wald.co.jp/english/

turbotom1

2012 CLS63 by Lorinser

http://www.sportservice.lorinser.com...lass-c218.html

turbotom1

6-6-2011
The all-new CLS-Class coupe represents the first major redesign of a car that established an entirely new market segment – the four-door coupe, which combines the emotional appeal and dynamic design of a coupe with the comfort and functionality of a sedan.

The 5.5-liter version of the new direct-injection V8 engine in the 2012 CLS63 AMG is rated at 518 hp and 516 lb.-ft of torque. An optional AMG Performance Package increases output to 550 hp and 590 lb-ft of torque. Even with its high-performance, the CLS63 AMG is 26 percent more fuel efficient (est. 15 city / 23 hwy), thanks in part to an innovative ECO stopstart system. Whenever the AMG model stops in “D” or “N” with the brake pedal depressed in “Controlled Efficiency” transmission mode, the engine is automatically turned off to save fuel. As soon as the driver releases the brake, the engine computer decides which piston is in the best position for first ignition, and the direct fuel injection and multi-spark systems work with a starter motor to re-start the engine almost instantly.

The CLS63 AMG features a 7-speed MCT (multi-clutch technology) sport transmission with an innovative start-up clutch that replaces the conventional torque converter. Providing the direct feedback of a manual transmission with the total convenience of an automatic, the MCT transmission offers impressive versatility and faster shift times. In addition to larger brakes and wider wheels and tires, the CLS63 AMG also sports a unique combination of steel coil springs at the front and AIRMATIC suspension at the rear, which provides especially responsive handling from the front suspension, while the self-leveling AIRMATIC at the rear maintains consistent ride height, regardless of the load. Along with a tubular front stabilizer bar, the CLS63 AMG is fitted with special front control arms and wheel hub carriers that provide wider track and more negative camber for even better grip in high speed curves. The CLS63 AMG rear suspension includes new track rods and push-pull rods as well as more rigid sub-frame mounts that all contribute to enhanced cornering.

MSRP starts at $94,900 for the high-performance CLS63 AMG (not including delivery charges of $875).

turbotom1

Affalterbach – AMG is writing another chapter in its "AMG Performance
2015" drive system strategy: a completely newly developed AMG 5.5-liter
V8 biturbo engine with a peak output of up to 420 kW (544 to 571 hp) and
maximum torque of up to 900 newton metres will enter the lineup in
summer 2010. The new eight-cylinder unit known internally as the M 157
impresses with a wealth of technological highlights such as direct petrol
injection with spray-guided combustion and twin turbochargers.

This innovative, autonomously developed eight-cylinder power unit
from Affalterbach sets new standards in terms of fuel consumption and
exemplary efficiency: the new S 63 AMG, in which the V8 biturbo will have
its market debut, consumes only 10.5 liters per 100 kilometres (NEDC
combined consumption, provisional figure). This represents a saving of
25 percent compared to the current S63 AMG. An intelligently designed
power transfer plays a major part in this: the unique AMG SPEEDSHIFT
MCT 7-speed sports transmission combines dynamism with economy, and
includes a new start/stop function in the "Controlled Efficiency" driving
mode. The new engine/transmission combination is the epitome of
exclusivity, sophistication, high performance and economy.



The S 63 AMG showcar is a homage to the impressive history of powerful AMG
V8 engines: visually this high-performance saloon resembles the spectacular
300 SEL 6.8 AMG, the racing car that won a class victory and second place in the
overall ranking for AMG at the 24-hour race in Spa-Francorchamps (Belgium) in
1971 – and made the company world-famous overnight.

"AMG Performance 2015" as the continuation of a success story

Mercedes-AMG is continuing this impressive story with its "AMG Performance
2015" strategy, and meeting its promise to continuously reduce both the fuel
consumption and emissions of new models with the new engine/transmission
combination – while reaching new heights with the central brand value of
"performance".

The new AMG 5.5-liter V8 biturbo engine will play a major part in the Mercedes-
AMG model strategy over the next few years. The unique AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT
7-speed sports transmission will also guarantee a thrilling yet economical power
transfer in future AMG high-performance cars. The new engine/transmission
combination is another milestone in the success story of Mercedes-AMG, which
began in 1967. Another highlight in the company's more than 40-year history
it undoubtedly the SLS AMG: this gull-wing model due to be launched on
27 March 2010 is the first automobile to be completely independently developed
by Mercedes-AMG. It means that as the performance brand within Mercedes-Benz
Cars, AMG is not only fielding a masterpiece but also demonstrating development
expertise at the highest level.

Direct petrol injection with spray-guided combustion and twin
turbocharging



Whilst the AMG 6.3 liter V8 naturally aspirated engine has a displacement of
6208 cc the new AMG 5.5-liter V8 biturbo unit makes do with 5461 cc. The use of
direct injection technology results in a reduction of exactly 747 cubic centimetres
and increases efficiency. For the first time, AMG is also utilising the advantages
of direct petrol injection with spray-guided combustion and piezo-electric injectors:
thanks to its higher thermodynamic efficiency, this technology makes more
efficient use of fuel and leads to lower exhaust emissions. AMG combines this
spray-guided combustion with twin turbochargers. Other highlights include a
crankcase wholly of aluminium, four-valve technology with adjustable camshafts,
an air/water intercooler, generator management and a start/stop function as
standard.

This high-tech package leads to a high output and torque yield, together with
fuel consumption figures that are unrivalled in the competitive lineup. The AMG
5.5-liter V8 biturbo engine develops a peak output of 400 kW (544 hp) and maximum
torque of 800 newton metres. In conjunction with the AMG Performance
package these figures are increased to 420 kW (571 hp) and 900 newton metres.
A look at the performance diagrams shows that no other engine in this output
class achieves the figures delivered by the new AMG biturbo. The major difference
between the two performance classes is an increase in the maximum charge
pressure from 1.0 to 1.3 bar.

Quantum leap: fuel consumption reduced by 25 percent

With a provisional NEDC fuel consumption of 10.5 liters per 100 kilometres, the
new S 63 AMG is 3.9 liters more economical than the preceding model powered
by the naturally aspirated AMG 6.3-liter V8 – despite an increase in output by
14 kW (19 hp) resp. 34 kW (46 hp) and in torque by 170 and 270 newton metres.
Engine specialists consider this achieved fuel saving of more than 25 percent to
be nothing less than a quantum leap. CO2 emissions have likewise been significantly
reduced: at 246 grams per kilometre, the figure is 28.5 percent lower than
for the previous model.

With figures like these, the new S 63 AMG is not only considerably better than all
its competitors, but also more fuel-efficient than much less powerful cars in this
segment. Taking into account its enormous performance and torque figures the
new AMG 5.5 liter V8 biturbo engine is in parts twice as efficient as many midsegment
or compact-class diesel engines.

At the same time the S 63 AMG delivers superior performance at sports car level:
the high-performance saloon accelerates from zero to 100 km/h in 4.5 seconds,
and has an electronically limited top speed of 250 km/h. The 100 km/h mark is
reached in just 4.4 seconds with the AMG Performance package, with the top
speed increased to an electronically limited 300 km/h.

Engine production – tradition of hand-built excellence

Like all other AMG engines, the new eight-cylinder biturbo is assembled by hand
in the AMG engine shop taken into commission in 2002. A single, highly-qualified
technician assembles the M 157 according to the "one man, one engine" philosophy,
maintaining the very strictest quality standards. This painstaking care is
attested to by his signature on the characteristic AMG engine plate.



AMG CEO Volker Mornhinweg: "Efficiency plus performance"

"With the new AMG V8 biturbo engine and the AMG SPEEDSHFT MCT 7-speed
sports transmission, we are confronting the challenges of the future and focussing
on fuel consumption and exhaust emissions even more intensively than before.
Our new high-performance engine shows that AMG occupies a leading position
in terms of both efficiency and our brand commitment to "performance," says
Volker Mornhinweg, Chairman of Mercedes-AMG GmbH.

"The new AMG V8 biturbo engine is yet another milestone in our impressive V8
history. For the first time we have combined spray-guided direct petrol injection with turbocharging. With this high-tech package we are "best in class" with respect to fuel consumption, output and torque," says Friedrich Eichler, Head of Engine and Powertrain Development at Mercedes-AMG.

Exciting power delivery, characteristic sound



These on-paper figures raise high expectations which the 400 kW (544 hp)
AMG 5.5-liter V8 biturbo certainly meets. The flat torque curve ensures enormous
pulling power in all speed ranges: 670 newton metres are already available at
1500 rpm, and the maximum torque of 800 newton metres is delivered just
500 rpm later, remaining constant to 4500 rpm. Even more effortless performance
is ensured by the engine variant with the AMG Performance package, which has
a peak output of 420 kW (571 hp). In this case the eight-cylinder delivers
875 newton metres of torque at just 2000 rpm, with a constant 900 newton
metres available between 2500 and 3750 rpm.

It is not only the unrivalled torque delivery of this turbocharged eight-cylinder
that makes the heart beat faster, as the agile responsiveness with no irritating
charger delay leads to an effortlessness and dynamism previously unknown in
this output class. All perfectly matched by the characteristic, sonorous engine
note. Moreover, this AMG high-performance engine naturally meets all the
requirements with respect to smooth, quiet running and the comfort on long
journeys that is to be expected of a Mercedes.

MCT 7-speed sports transmission with Controlled Efficiency mode and
start/stop function

Power is transferred by the AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 7-speed sports transmission
used exclusively by AMG, which is already familiar from the SL 63 AMG and
E 63 AMG and combines high emotional appeal with outstanding driving dynamics
and a high level of efficiency. The wet start-up clutch replaces a conventional
torque converter, and helps to save fuel. The exemplary fuel economy is also in
large measure due to the standard start/stop function. This system is active in the
transmission's Controlled Efficiency ("C") mode, and switches the eight-cylinder
engine off when the car comes to a stop. In "C" mode the sports saloon always
starts off in second gear, and the transmission shifts to the next, higher gears at
a decidedly early stage. With its high torque at low engine speeds, the V8 engine
encourages a smooth, effortless driving style.



The eight-cylinder biturbo engine also features the generator management system
familiar from the E 63 AMG: whenever the engine is on the overrun or when braking,
kinetic energy is used to charge the battery rather than being wasted as heat
in the usual way. In all other operating modes a combination of onboard network
and generator management enables the generator to be kept at a low voltage. This
reduces the load on the engine and makes for fuel savings of around 0.15 liters
per 100 kilometres according to the NEDC standard, and up to 0.2 l/100 km in
city traffic with its frequent overrun and braking phases.

Long tradition of powerful AMG V8 engines

Powerful eight-cylinder engines are an integral part of AMG's history. 2005 saw
the debut of the AMG 6.3-liter V8 engine known as the M 156. Depending on the
model, this naturally aspirated, high-revving unit develops up to 386 kW (525 hp)
and 630 newton metres. Reserved exclusively for the new SLS AMG, the M 159
with the same displacement of 6.3 liters has a peak torque of 420 kW (571 hp)
and maximum torque of 650 newton metres. Another milestone in the history of
AMG engines was the supercharged AMG 5.5-liter V8 engine introduced in 2001:
the M 113 K developed up to 428 kW (582 hp) and 800 newton metres of torque.
Even more power was forthcoming from the supercharged AMG 5.5-liter V8 engine
of the SLR McLaren dating from 2003 – the M 155 generated up to 478 kW
(650 hp) and 820 newton metres.

The supercharged AMG 5.5-liter V8, the AMG 6.3-liter V8 and the AMG 6.0-liter
V12 biturbo were all able to win the Best Performance Engine category in the
International Engine of the Year Awards.

The first AMG four-valve V8 accelerates "The Hammer" to 303 km/h



Another important engine in the AMG story was the M 117, its first eight-cylinder
unit with four-valve technology. With a displacement of 5.6 liters, 265 kW
(360 hp) and 510 newton metres of torque, this V8 accelerated the 300 CE 5.6
AMG to a top speed of 303 km/h in 1987. This made the coupé the fastest
German car in series production, and American fans reverently christened it
"The Hammer".

The S 63 AMG showcar harks back to the historic success in 1971

A historic success was achieved by the 300 SEL 6.8 AMG in 1971: powered by
an AMG V8 engine with a displacement of 6.8 liters and developing 315 kW
(428 hp), this signal red racing saloon crossed the finishing line in second place
during its very first outing at the 24-hour race in Spa-Francorchamps (Belgium),
securing victory in its class.

The spectacular S 63 showcar is homage to this triumph, which made AMG worldfamous
overnight although the company had only been founded in 1967: decorated
with sponsoring stickers identical to those on its historic predecessor, this powerful
S-Class made by Mercedes-AMG is a sensation. The imposing tyres in size
275/35 R 20 and 325/30 R 20 at the front and rear are just as eye-catching as the
4.5-centimetre wider front wings on each side. The discerning car-lover will even
discover exotic wood trim in the style of the original car in the interior.

The showcar is powered by the new AMG 5.5-liter V8 biturbo engine and the
AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 7-speed sports transmission.

turbotom1

012 CLS63 motor details

CLS63 sound bite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIfx7k0Duu4







http://www.worldcarfans.com/11003092...ngine-in-depth

juicee63

Incredible thread!

Thanks for all the great info.

hyperion667

jesus what an amazing thread! this is one of my favorite MB's.......



SL2003driver: I want to eat that avatar......

turbotom1

2012 CLS ordering guide:
http://www.raycatenaunion.com/mydocu...ring_guide.pdf

turbotom1

IIHS Crash-Test Data

Data based on: 2011 Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class Base CLS550 4dr Coupe
Frontal:
Overall Good
Chest Good
Head/Neck Good
Left Leg/Foot Good
Restraints Good
Right Leg/Foot Good
Structure/safety cage Good
Side:
Overall Good
Driver Head Protection Good
Driver Head and Neck Good
Driver Pelvis/Leg Good
Driver Torso Good
Rear Passenger Head Protection Good
Rear Passenger Head and Neck Good
Rear Passenger Pelvis/Leg Good
Rear Passenger Torso Good
Structure/safety cage Good
Rear:
Overall Good
Dynamic Rating Good
Seat Head/Restraint Geometry Good
Roof:
Overall Good

(CLS shares the E class platform)
2011 Top Safety Pick Mercedes E class 4-door 2011 models with standard but without additional optional side airbags
Front1
[Good]
Side
[Good]
Rollover
[Good]
Rear
[Good]
ESC
standard
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/summary.aspx?class=10