cl600625

hello guys i wanted to know if i could take a 04 Silverado ss with a supercharger, and headers? a friend of a friend has has been talking trash about these mercs, and has put up 4k to race me in palm beach fl, at the track. i was going to get everything kleeman has to offer except the cam. could i own him?

Timeless

I think we would need to know the numbers he has run at the track to really know, but my gut feeling is just an ECU tune would be enough for you.

cl600625

he claims low 11
i just cant believe that.

jmf003

There's a Dragtimes entry for a supercharged, 700 wheel horsepower, 11.4 second Silverado: http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-C...lip-16287.html. Given the mods, I find the horsepower and time credible.

A stock cl600 or cls55 is not going to outrun that truck in a 1/4 mile but with a full set of mods you could be a few tenths quicker.

benz_addict

ECU tune your CL 600 and use that for the drag, that's if its the V12TT version

Timeless

I can believe it in the 1/4...after that it will dramatically slow down with his lack or aerodynamics.

Make the offer of a roll on from 60 to 150 and you should be golden with just an ecu tune. From a dig, you would need the ECU tune and upgraded inter cooler setups to be in the high 10s to low 11s from what I have read.

SSM AMG

If he is willing to bet 4k there must be something he's not telling you.

jturkel

look for the bottle. it's probably hidden

T I T A N

you sure its not the trailblazer SS, those things can be quick

Trirotor

I have a small shop and we have built race cars for years. Predominantly small block Chevy. Natural, supercharged, turbo, nitrous. I happen to own a CLS63 as a weekend driver. There are several cars and trucks around here that are street legal (or at least close) that will best any west euro import that I've seen. For cars we're down to low 8's and trucks are high 9's. Even 4x4 diesels can be high 10's. You are facing a wild card that may or may not be bluffing. We have done a lot of serious street racing and rule #1 is know your opponent. Any stock Benz is easy picking, everyone knows what they can run. A modified one isn't much better--west europe cars are very costly to modify and don't take well to mods. either. So the chance you are racing the the one exception is slim. This is because you're dealing with a 10:1 cost ratio. $10,000 into a chevy will net you similar power increase as $100,000 into your benz. Hell, mine was just in the shop for a week because of a balance valve on the left cylinder bank. The computer saw a slight variance of air mixture from left to right and didn't like it! What I'm saying is that you don't see any really fast MB, BMW, Jag, etc. because of too much technology, which leads to very few and very expensive aftermarket parts. With domestic cars, you have cheap parts and lots of them. Chevy LS series engines were designed to be aftermarket friendly with ECM's that the average 12 year old with a laptop can re-tune. (and screwing with it won't shut down the rest of the car either) Keep in mind that USA invented drag racing. Name any other country with a history of mass producing 6.5L - 8.1L in all sorts of cars. There is no replacement for displacement. Modified blocks can now be as much as 13.0 L.

So, don't be a sucker. Know your enemy. Or, as someone else mentioned, pick your battle. A freeway race from 60-140mph would give you your best chances. A stoplight war is too risky. Horsepower is one thing, and chassis tuning is another. There are many 325hp stock Camaros that "hook" off the line and would eat you over a short 1/4 mile.

Or, do what us poor kids used to do in high school---race for ego's. (excessive, rub it in your face, bragging rights)
(in front of everybody of course)

DucatiNut

Who in their right mind would try to turn a silverado into a "sportsthing"
A turd is a turd no matter how fast it is. If he has spent a truckload to make it quick in a straight line so what????
If you race and loose you will never hear the end of it.

T I T A N

I have to agree with you 100% except the supra (2JZEtt)and the old GT-R's (r34,r33,r32) happy motoring.

Trirotor

I consider the Supra and Skyline to be East Europe. That's why I tried to narrow it down to west Europe.





2nd--Because you or others think it's a turd, is why it's cool. It's called a sleeper, and it's a lot of fun if it's yours. Ever take out a Ferrari with a 225 Buick, or a hearse? How about breaking the the starting timing lights with the rear tires of your '76 Ford Ltd. ?

jturkel

blue silverado in this video (yes i know its long) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytxSy...layer_embedded

summary for the lazy: turbo silverado runs mid to low 10s from 128-132

Emin

See if he will do a rolling race. If not, then dont do it. If he is willing to put 4k on the line, then theres some things you dont know about

T I T A N

Umm, I dont know what you mean by "BECAUSE YOU" I'll just try not to take that as an insult, or whatever it was ment to be, I actully know what you mean by a "sleeper" I have a Jeep SRT alot of people get owned at the light but either way, bout the whole west/east europe thing, I'm pretty sure nissan and toyota are from Japan, and by my understanding thats no where near europe, Happy motoring...

Trirotor

Sorry,

I was combining responses to your post and the one above you, in only one post.

cl600625

a source told me his motor is on drugs.......
he is shooting nos.

well im sending my car to get modded this fri.
kleeman headers, tb, pcm, pulley, lsd, and cam. air box,
and cross pipes. do you guys think i have a chance?

erifly

Update? So did you beat him. I learned NEVER doubt how fast the "other" car can go after seeing a modded (but looked stock) 80's ford mustang smash a sl55 a while back.

cl600625

never made it to upgrade my car...
i went to the track with a couple of friends and i seen his truck run 11.8 in 1/4 mile at the track. he never knew i was there.

Dark SSide

Like everyone said do a highway pull these things suck up top.

UDWANIT2

ur brakes cost more than his truck why waste time.........so what he is a bit quicker .....only on the track....HWY ur car will smoke him ...point A to point B ur car will smoke him...handling looks and better built.....tell dude to get one so u can prove who is the better driver....thats what matters...and if u

kindafast

He is probably spraying too. I doubt he will break into 12's with the mods you say he has

cl600625

he has a supercharger on his truck too! a very good source told me today.
and come to think of it his truck was screaming supercharger

Brabus E55

Do a 2nd gear roll