MB Dave

As the title states...

I've noticed a noise in my engine so I brought it up to my dealer, after 3 days of inspecting they came to the conclusion its my left bank that's at fault. My S.A says I need both intake and exhaust camshaft adjusters along with intake and exhaust actuators and new lifters and head bolts. The total being $4900. Labor being $1400 and parts being $3500. I have done a bit of research and I have found the same parts, being sold through an authorized re-seller totaling around $1800 (w/o shipping). I'm sure an independent shop can do the labor for $1000 or less. This begs the question, do I go with dealer or do I source it all my self?

WTFitsAndrew

The Camshaft adjuster went out on my Audi as well.

If you live in California, that part is covered for 7 years / 70k miles under the emissions warranty.

My SA didn't bring it up until I broke open the warranty manual and pointed to the section that specifically stated that it was covered.

MB Dave

I'm in Chicago, unfortunately no such law exists here.

Blown_V8s

Is this common among 63s?

MB Dave

It appears to be

http://www.topclassactions.com/lawsu...ction-lawsuit-

WTFitsAndrew

I strongly recommend you check your warranty booklet:

here is a link to the 2011 warranty, which states that the camshaft adjuster is covered under the Federal Emissions warranty:
http://www.mbusa.com/vcm/MB/DigitalA...on_booklet.pdf

MB Dave

Our Emission Parts Warranty ensures that your vehicle is covered for 2-years or 24,000 miles, whichever comes first, for any repairs or replacements necessary for your Mercedes-Benz to meet emission standards. In addition, specific emission-related components are covered for 8-years or 80,000 miles, whichever comes first.
State Laws
In California, Maine, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, and Vermont, Mercedes-Benz vehicles are covered for 3-years or 50,000 miles, whichever comes first, in order to meet these states' stringent anti-smog standards. In addition, certain emission-related parts are covered for 7-years or 70,000 miles, whichever comes first.

WTFitsAndrew

Right, on page 28, it lists the camshaft adjuster as one of the parts that are covered for 8 years/ 80k miles

TWF63

Only the ones with star on end
Rest is 2/24k including cam adjuster, according to that page.

AmmarYasirA

Wow, great info, how common is this problem?

MB Dave

Common enough, there is class action lawsuit against MB for knowing about the problem and not taking the right steps to fix it.

MB Dave

So I spoke with my S.A, I got a 15% discount on parts but nothing off of labor. I will be needing 2 new camshaft adjusters one intake and one exhaust one intake actuator one exhaust actuator. I may or may not need new head bolts and lifters, the tech will know once he starts the tear down.

StarvingArtist

Is there some sort of upgrade you could do to all of them so it doesn't happen again?
Just thinkin out loud.

MB Dave

I did look into that, only thing that popped up was actual camshafts from MHP for 8k

MB Dave

Car was supposed to be ready early last week, than Friday of last week, than it was supposed to be ready by today.

I get a call this morning that car is assembled and the noise back... They're disassembling the car trying to figure out whats at fault. again ...

Zod

wait what....MHP cams?
warranty?

StarvingArtist

A good mechanic would know what happened and why before he ever thought about reassembly. You should take it somewhere else.

MB Dave

So.....
I got the left bank done and now noise from the right bank... and metal shavings in the oil pan...

Dealer is starting a tear down tomorrow. I think I'm going to need new main bearings and rod bearings and the same for the right side.

useras224

Where did you take it for service???

blackcls63

Ouch! Whats the mileage on your car ?

rmt52

was it fixed in the end?

Pedro terrassa

A big problem !

MrTnT

I purchased my 2010 E63 AMG at the end of March this year from a Toronto Luxury Car Dealer (not Mercedes). It drove like brand new until last week; while driving in a parking lot it began stuttering, idling rough and the "Check Engine" light came on. I had the code scanned and it threw 13 codes. I booked an appointment and took it to Mercedes Benz. I was told that the Cam Adjusters were the problem and that they were on back order. The Service Advisor told me that the Warranty expired a week before, so I would pay for the Diagnosis, Spark Plug replacement (as they were fouled) and 2 or 4 Cam Adjusters (costing roughly $1000 Cdn). I emailed Mercedes Benz Canada and got a quick response that they contacted the Dealer's Service Managers. The Service Advisor called me last Friday and told me that his department was contacted by Head Office and that I would pay for the Diagnosis and the Spark Plugs but they would cover the Cam Adjusters and they had ordered them in. Sounded good, but on Monday I got a call saying that they "re-evaluated" the situation and that they would cover 50% of the cost of the Cam Adjusters because my Warranty expired and that I did not purchase the vehicle directly from Mercedes Benz. Now I must pay for the Diagnosis, Spark Plugs, 50% of the Cam Adjusters cost, 5 hours Labour....plus taxes of course, totalling around $1800 Cdn. Today is Wednesday and they still have the car.