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Old May 20, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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Jon Vs Propain: The Saga Continues

With all the talk about Jon's car vs Mthis (Hagi's) car I figured it would be fun to run Jon and see if he was as close as he was against the C63 with full mods.
These were the results. Weather was a warm 75 degrees. Draw your own conclusions. Enjoy.

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Old May 20, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by propain
With all the talk about Jon's car vs Mthis (Hagi's) car I figured it would be fun to run Jon and see if he was as close as he was against the C63 with full mods.
These were the results. Weather was a warm 75 degrees. Draw your own conclusions. Enjoy.

Race #1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIXaDV62ih4


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7wLDMXQuTk
Hahahahahahahaha.. propain sorry to say this but jon walked on you.. you can totally see it in the second video....... faxtory freak put down zo6
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Old May 20, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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I thought the c63 was going to do a little better than that. I'd love to see a headers/tune vs a z06. Nice race.
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Old May 20, 2012 | 02:54 PM
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Zo6 is a complete animal i know there are stories of people beating them and all but driven the right way they are extreamly hard to beat especially from a roll
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Old May 20, 2012 | 02:55 PM
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I thought the c63 was going to do a little better than that. I'd love to see a headers/tune vs a z06. Nice race.

Headers + Tune + LW Mods vs Z06. The C63 pulls much harder with those mods and it took much more to overtake it.


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Old May 20, 2012 | 02:57 PM
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Zo6 is a complete animal i know there are stories of people beating them and all but driven the right way they are extreamly hard to beat especially from a roll
Yes, from a dig the Z06 takes some skills to launch. If done right they can be in the 10's completely stock.

These are two completely different cars. Its just fun to compare since I have both.
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Old May 20, 2012 | 03:02 PM
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Ive done alot of runs in zo6 both models stock then the older one supercharged and headered up and the newer 505 with the vette doctor head cam intake header package,,, beasts total beasts
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Old May 20, 2012 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by propain
Headers + Tune + LW Mods vs Z06. The C63 pulls much harder with those mods and it took much more to overtake it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSfpjhj_eaE
What speed and gear was the Z06 in when you started that run?

Definately 2 different animals. Just by the butt meter alone the Z06 is way faster than my C63. What are C63's putting down with Headers + Tune + LW Mods

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Old May 20, 2012 | 03:20 PM
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What speed and gear was the Z06 in when you started that run?
2nd gear 40 mph 3100 rpm. Not a good spot for the Z06 but great for the C63. I did another run that was a pretty even start at about 45 mph in 2nd gear at about 3600 rpm. The C63 fell pretty quick.

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Old May 20, 2012 | 03:25 PM
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2nd gear 40 mph 3100 rpm. Not a good spot for the Z06 but great for the C63. I did another run that was a pretty even start at about 45 mph in 2nd gear at about 3600 rpm. The C63 fell pretty quick.
Yeah should have been in 1st way to low in the rpm range

I edited after you replied but What are C63's putting down with Headers + Tune + LW Mods and what do LW mods consist of

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Old May 20, 2012 | 03:40 PM
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Yeah should have been in 1st way to low in the rpm range

I edited after you replied but What are C63's putting down with Headers + Tune + LW Mods and what do LW mods consist of
I just got the Z06 so I am still running street tires. 1st gear at 40 mph is what? 4600 rpm? When I get on drags I will be able to grab much better. I tried a few times and did nothing but spun when in 1st.

This was 2nd gear at 45 mph.


450-470 whp.

LW mods were Carbon Fiber Hood, Carbon Fiber trunk lid and lighter rims.


This is the graph from my Z06 dyno.






Either way, this compare was due to another compare between the car I just raced and the modded C63.

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Old May 20, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by propain
I just got the Z06 so I am still running street tires. 1st gear at 40 mph is what? 4600 rpm? When I get on drags I will be able to grab much better. I tried a few times and did nothing but spun when in 1st.

This was 2nd gear at 45 mph.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STcVA...feature=relmfu

450-470 whp.

LW mods were Carbon Fiber Hood, Carbon Fiber trunk lid and lighter rims.


This is the graph from my Z06 dyno.






Either way, this compare was due to another compare between the car I just raced and the modded C63.
Is your vette Stock? those are good numbers if your Vette is stock.
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Old May 20, 2012 | 03:57 PM
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Is your vette Stock? those are good numbers if your Vette is stock.
Yes. No mods. I did some work on the short block to prep for my future mods and address some weak points with the LS7 valve train. Just getting the motor balanced added about 10 more whp. Otherwise no mods. No bolt ons or intake and no tune.

Stock the Z06 puts down about 455-465 on the dyno. Everything is OEM. Just built a bit better than GM could.
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Yes. No mods. I did some work on the short block to prep for my future mods and address some weak points with the LS7 valve train. Just getting the motor balanced added about 10 more whp. Otherwise no mods. No bolt ons or intake and no tune.

Stock the Z06 puts down about 455-465 on the dyno. Everything is OEM. Just built a bit better than GM could.
You have a healthy engine!

just watch out for the transmission when you are tracking it. The transmission on the Z06 really sucks
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Old May 20, 2012 | 04:13 PM
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You have a healthy engine!

just watch out for the transmission when you are tracking it. The transmission on the Z06 really sucks

The clutch you mean? The T6060 is very solid. The clutch needs an upgrade. That is on the list.
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Jim your Z06 is a BEAST!!
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Old May 20, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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Jim your Z06 is a BEAST!!

Thanks! Im loving it.

You aint seen nothing yet though. Wait till the mods are done!
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Thanks! Im loving it.

You aint seen nothing yet though. Wait till the mods are done!
Awesome! Looking forward to more updates.
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Nice runs. The Z06 was once on my radar along with the C63. At least Jon is a good sport to run with you with all the grief you give him on the board here.
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Nice runs. The Z06 was once on my radar along with the C63. At least Jon is a good sport to run with you with all the grief you give him on the board here.
I believe the grief goes both ways. But yes, he knew he would get rapped and he still ran me.
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I believe the grief goes both ways.
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Thanks! Im loving it.

You aint seen nothing yet though. Wait till the mods are done!
Propain...G'Day from Aus.
Zo6....LS7, dry sump, 375KW (505HP)? right?!!...That engine was used by our local Holden "factory hot up" company "HSV" (Holden Special Vehicles), in a Commodore a few years back, when they built the "W427"...only made about 140 of them, at a cost of around $170K.
Lots of engineering had to be done, the major issue was plumbing the dry sump.
I've driven one...MASSIVE torque.....but could also be driven by a little old lady to Church on Sunday.
I'd love a Corvette, but in Aus, it'd have to be converted to R.H.D., which I reckon "spoils" the car.
How would you go against a ZR1?
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Propain...G'Day from Aus.
Zo6....LS7, dry sump, 375KW (505HP)? right?!!...That engine was used by our local Holden "factory hot up" company "HSV" (Holden Special Vehicles), in a Commodore a few years back, when they built the "W427"...only made about 140 of them, at a cost of around $170K.
Lots of engineering had to be done, the major issue was plumbing the dry sump.
I've driven one...MASSIVE torque.....but could also be driven by a little old lady to Church on Sunday.
I'd love a Corvette, but in Aus, it'd have to be converted to R.H.D., which I reckon "spoils" the car.
How would you go against a ZR1?
Regards, Pickles.
Thats the one. 2009 and above got a bigger dry sump increasing the capacity to 2.5 qt.

I don't know about the old lady going to church though. LOL. The car is a pain in the *** to drive to be honest. Not the worst car Ive driven, my 66 Chevelle takes that easily.

The ZR1 in the hands of a good driver will easily beat a Z06. As expected though considering how much more HP the ZR1 has. I believe the best time is 10.4 1/4 mile out of the box. 10.7 for the Z06. Both bone stock on drags
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I thought I could hear Enya playing in the background: "sail away sail away sail away"

Such a beast, that Z06. Very cool to see Jon's car run. It's a strong C63.

Looking forward to updates on your Z06 build.
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I thought I could hear Enya playing in the background: "sail away sail away sail away"

Such a beast, that Z06. Very cool to see Jon's car run. It's a strong C63.

Looking forward to updates on your Z06 build.
LOL... I might have to add that.

Thanks to all for the support on the build! It should be a blast.
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