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Finally picking up this Sat. Really really excited despite few irritants *****ing about their bad experience. I had 4 911s and they're great. Had an R8 and it was great. And am sure the GT will be awesome. To love one car u don't have to hate the others. Kind a like women...
now my question: what's the advice on break in? Drive it like you stole it or easy does it? My logic and experience tends to go w the 1st. Thoughts....?
AMG GTBS, AMG GTR Pro, AMG GT, C63 AMG, Porsche Panamera 4S, RX-7 FC Turbo II
Congrats on the pick-up! You won't get a clear answer I'm trying to behave during the prescribed 1000 mile break-in-- that's what the manual says. And then we have guys who dyno and tune immediately, and crush it.
Peeps are irritating right?? Car will be great. Nice combo.
Yeah you will get both kinds here on break in. My advice. ......Variable engine speed and no lugging in comfort mode. 3k, 4K,5k RPM limit every 300 miles.
My car is now flying with the new filters mod at 1500 miles lol.
Congrats on the new AMG (GT ?) and you won't be disappointed.
Forget the naysayers and consider them white noise.
I also followed the MB guidelines and vary the RPMs.
Reason behind doing it is that it cannot hurt whereas the other philosophy potentially has negative impacts.
I guess there is a reason MB say run it in for 1000 miles. I'll be doing a 1000m mile round trip the week I get mine.
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The 1k miles Mostly so the driver gets used to the car. The engine has already hit the QA dyno for about an hour at variable engine speeds in top high range.
Metals and alloys have memory just like a muscle, driving the engine a little more aggressively than my normal driving has always yield great motors with no oil consumption with except of a couple of cars. And no I am not endorsing or saying take your car to the track in your first day but also your engine does not go thinking "oh I have 1000mi now, thus I am ready to be pushed hard"
I would change the oil earlier rather than later.
Edit: not relevant to this thread.
A couple of dealers have now told me that a supper high number of totaled new cars happen in the first month of ownership as 2 cars were delivered in the span of about an hour and a half!
I would love to see links to substantiation to anything you just posted.....
Which part?
That the engines get run for about an hour at the top half end for about an hour before they get released? Go to an AMG, Porsche, 9ff, Ferrari, McLaren, or Pagani plant and check it yourself.
That the 1000mi is an very arbitrary number, talk to a car manufacturer engineer, behavioral scientist and lawyers.
That composites, metals and alloys have elastic memory? Educate yourself.
That I would change the oil sooner than later on a new engine. Buy new cars, do periodic oil tests in a reputable lab and come to your own conclusion.
I did change the oil at 3K miles. Again it cannot hurt whereas the other way around has potential negatives. It's not rocket science guys...
Keep in mind that I am an aficionado and not a chemical or mechanical engineer.
No rocket science but science nonetheless.
When I buy a car part of the fun (for me at least) is to look at PPM of wear metals, contaminant metals and additive metals concentrations as well as the Oxygen concentration and viscosity as I break in the engine.
I take oil samples and monitor some key metal concentration of Molybdenum, Boron, Magnesium, Aluminum, Ti, Phosphorous and Zinc for example. As you plot these you can get an overall picture of how far the engine "break-in" process is.
It is not rare that in the first 200mi the concentration of these contaminants skyrockets so I change the oil, then in the 500mi you are getting back to the same levels as in the 200mi so I change the oil again, and probably once again in the 1k mile range. Then once again at 3k and then monitor and change oil and filter as appropriate.
Granted not every engine is the same, even the same car model for example I had 2 2015 E63s wagons that the engines "break-in" process was almost 500mi apart.
Is this necessary, probably not because modern oils can still lubricate at higher PPM of metals, but I like to do this as much as I do to lap consistent to the 1/10th of a second.
It will always fascinate me why with today's tolerances there is such disparity in "metal" concentrations.
I got curious about this when it was brought up to me in a visit to Pagani a few years ago. Ogni motore e come un amante, is was told.
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The 1k miles Mostly so the driver gets used to the car. The engine has already hit the QA dyno for about an hour at variable engine speeds in top high range.
totaled new cars happen in the first month of ownership as 2 cars were delivered in the span of about an hour and a half!
It does make sense if all engines have been on the dyno.
It does make sense if all engines have been on the dyno.
Most performance engines do. I am as certain as I can be that all AMG 8+ cylinder, Ferrari, Porsche S+, Audi RS and R, Pagani, and 9ff do at least they were until 2015.
My 9ff was delivered ready to run. Yes I was asked to take it easy for a while out of concern for me not the engine.
Pagani does 3 heat cycles and oil changes on top of whatever AMG does before the engine gets on the chassis.
At the end, internet is full of information, good and bad it is up to you to figure out what is good and what is not.
The easier way to figure out how to break in an engine is by testing your oil among all the new cars you buy. I do and learn a ton each time.
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The 1k miles Mostly so the driver gets used to the car. The engine has already hit the QA dyno for about an hour at variable engine speeds in top high range. !
One hour on the dyno is only 155 miles (top speed) so a long way to go to get to 1000miles
02-01-2017, 10:47 PM
