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Old 01-02-2011, 06:50 PM
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holy! those headlights and LED accents are SEXY!!!! quick glimpse and it reminds me of the new E Classes, lookin good though!! now im really really angsy to see how the coupe would look like!
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I like. I really like that blue, but those wheels not so much. The wheels on the others are better. Alas, I won't have one for quite a while, I don't think. On the upside, I figure mine is good for another 100K or more.
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It looks nice, but I prefer the W203.
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I see that MB is still cheaping out on the 'sport' brake calipers (last pic)- single piston sliders; a far cry from the AMG style 4pots that they used in 2004 and the 2 piston in 2005-2007. If you are making wheels that expose the brakes you better have some decent looking better functioning clamps. Sliders will never be as good and a fixed caliper with multiple pistons.

Even the rears are sliders ARGGGHHH!
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Thanks for the pics Glyn. I wish MB would ship/sell the estate wagon here in the States. I like it !!
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The new 204 looks really nice! Especially the interior! Much more modern than the 203s.
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The wagon is certainly pretty. The new interior is a big improvement & clearly now takes it ahead of the W203. There is a choice of 10 wheel styles for the world so something for everyone. That 17 (? - too lazy to count) spoke wheel was used in press launch shots for the original 204 but never really used in volume production. Imagine keeping the brake dust off that thing - no thanks!

I think I now have a clear picture of my next car - I don't like the direction the W205 is going. A facelifted W204 with Bix, Leather & Parktronic will suit me fine - Elegance of course.

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Have you seen the brakes on a new M3? Look like single piston sliders to me.. I think it's fine, though I do prefer the artsy look of the 135i's 6-piston fronts.
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Have you seen the brakes on a new M3? Look like single piston sliders to me.. I think it's fine, though I do prefer the artsy look of the 135i's 6-piston fronts.
Yes sliders on the M3 and 335 while the cheaper 135 with the sport pkg gets 6pots...go figure! I have read many places and on TV that journalists have complained about the brakes on the M3/335 especially on track conditions. The C63 gets real brakes.

Sliders can be efficient, however they look cheap, are heavy, always rusty and require more maintenance especially for us in winter countries where they use salt on the roads. The sliders where the pads sit on gets gummed up, the cast iron bracket below the pad sliders gets corroded and eventually pinches the pads not allowing them to slide and needs to filed down after 4-5 years. And despite the mounting pins/bolts being lubricated and "protected" by a rubber boot I have yet to see a car that these don't get rusted and seized.

While sliders are ok in a warm climate, they are a source of problem in a winter climate where they use salt.

That metal plate that says Mercedes that dresses up the 'sport' brakes on the current W204 is not fooling me. Probably the brainchild of some bean counter at corporate headquarters

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Yes sliders on the M3 and 335 while the cheaper 135 with the sport pkg gets 6pots...go figure! I have read many places and on TV that journalists have complained about the brakes on the M3/335 especially on track conditions. The C63 gets real brakes.

Sliders can be efficient, however they look cheap, are heavy, always rusty and require more maintenance especially for us in winter countries where they use salt on the roads. The sliders where the pads sit on gets gummed up, the cast iron bracket below the pad sliders gets corroded and eventually pinches the pads not allowing them to slide and needs to filed down after 4-5 years. And despite the mounting pins/bolts being lubricated and "protected" by a rubber boot I have yet to see a car that these don't get rusted and seized.

While sliders are ok in a warm climate, they are a source of problem in a winter climate where they use salt.

That metal plate that says Mercedes that dresses up the 'sport' brakes on the current W204 is not fooling me. Probably the brainchild of some bean counter at corporate headquarters
No sarcasm here, are the sliders heavier than the 2-piston fixed calipers on the 05-07 C230s? These things are pretty large and look very heavy. Mine don't look so well after 100,000 miles of usage but they still work great. No complaints here, great feel and performance. From everything I've heard a fixed caliper with multiple pistons will offer somewhat more consistent contact and better pedal feel.
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
I think I now have a clear picture of my next car - I don't like the direction the W205 is going. A facelifted W204 with Bix, Leather & Parktronic will suit me fine - Elegance of course.
The facelift appears to be very tastefully done. I like the pictures I have seen, so far.

Now, about that C250D with 6-speed manual for the US market?

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It looks good, I want to see the sport model sedan.
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Originally Posted by LILBENZ230
I've never, ever said this before.. but... The wagon is better looking than the sedan!
+1. The W204 is really starting to grow on me, and the facelift, certainly helps that
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The facelift is great - and the interior is a major improvement...

I just wish that they would give back their TRIANGLE tail lamp...that was a tradition...

Thanks for teh shots...lets see more interior DETAILS...
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Although we’ve had good-natured discussions on occasion, the drivers are understandably tightlipped about their duties and product development.
Even debadged and wearing camouflage, I can spot AMG brake calipers from afar.

The US marketing gurus probably believe a C wagon would cannibalize their other (more profitable) offerings.
Saw this early W204 in Redondo Beach a while ago:

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thank you Mercedes-Benz for slapping every 2008-2011 W204 owner in the face!
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