Glyn M Ruck

Forums concentrate problems. Remember that many people just like you only come here when they have a problem.

Let me paint a scenario where at least some things are likely true.

You purchased this vehicle used & don't know it's history. This is why you don't have the spare key. It's possible that the previous owner had trouble. This car is an early C Class 2000, 2001 or 2002. When the C Class was a known trouble giver because Benz did computer simulated endurance testing instead of on the road. You told us you washed the engine so I will not include that. From 2003 onward these things were all fixed. Doing one's homework would have told you this. The E Class of the same era was even more troublesome.

astamir

sorted out the problem now key and EIS is fine now everything works as it should

Glyn M Ruck

Was it the EIS?

astamir

yeah i made a bit research and you are right mr glyn the e class had the same problem. THANK ALL YOU GUYS FOR YOUR ADVISES AND TRYING TO HELP TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM

astamir

ELECTRIC IGNITION SWITCH=EIS

astamir

YEAH IT WAS EIS MR GLYN

astamir

MY OLDER BROTHER HAD A W124 E500 AMG AT THAT TIME IT WAS A 10 YEARS OLD CAR AND THERE WASNT ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT MERCS TROUBLELESS CARS NOW BEEN ON THIS FORUM SHOWS THAT MERCS HAVE MANY DISADVANTAGES AS WELL. IS THE AMG CARS MUCH BETTER THAN THE NORMAL MERCS? HAVE YOU EVER GUYS HAD A AMG MERC?

Glyn M Ruck

Some AMG cars are like a time bomb. They are great but tend to be abused. I would be reluctant to buy one used in SA.

Pleased your car is fixed.

PA_Pete

I see the forum has helped out a few others in need, as is why the reason I am in this thread too! I just did a search and came upon this thread which is almost exactly what just happened to the girlfriend while borrowing my car. She took my car today to work today and it treated her fine this morning. However, when she came out to the car this evening, she unlocked the car, put the key into the ignition, and nothing. No weird noise the car makes when you put the key in the ignition, no unlocking of the steering wheel as well. She called up in a bit of a panic. I had mentioned to her that I have never had this issue with my car before, but have heard of it (on here, on the forum) and would look it up to see if maybe there was a particular fuse she could check. As I mentioned, I have already read of THIS particular problem on the forum, so I too was a little pissed off when she told me what was going on. I advised her to find someone that could give her a lift home, as I am unavailable for a while. She called me back to tell me that she got a hold of someone, but while she was doing that, she figured she would mess around with the car for a bit. She got out, closed the door, locked it, unlocked it, got in, and guess what, it started! Great! However, my main reason for even posting-
Is this a start of a problem, or a freak accident? I plan on trying the spare key tonight, however, I don't like the fact that it did this in the first place. So, should I EXPECT for something to go bad, does it happen gradually, or just instantaneous?

Glyn M Ruck

Can be instantaneous

PA_Pete

Alright, got it figured out. I picked up my spare key and tried that out, worked over and over again, so that tells me it's the key. I opened up the suspect key and found the problem.

Glyn M Ruck

Oops! Good sleuthing! Wish it were always this simple.

Hus

I had the same problem on my 2002 e55 (w210), my key did everything except start the car. It would lock, unlock, panic, trunk open,when i put it in the ignition i do hear it clicking and the steering wheel unlock, just wouldn't hear the starter attempting to engage. i took apart my key and everything looked fine so i put it back together. I did notice that i had a couple of deep scratches on the front of the key from dropping it over the years. I used a scratch pad to rub out the scratches i had on the front of IR sensor on the key. i then rubbed the front of the key on a cotton t-shirt to smooth it out. So far this key has been working fine for the past week. This is what worked for me, i was going to the dealer anyways to get a new key because this one is all beat up and it looks tired. I dont want anyone to try this and mess up their key and later get upset with me.

Raceredi

I have a 98 clk320 which starts every morning just fine but once it warms up or if the outside temperature gets up it won't start. At least not right away sometimes it takes twenty minutes of turning the key on and off until it starts. Any ideas?

phister

if you havent changed your battery in awhile I'd start with that. from there get the alternator checked.

Raceredi

Thanks phister
I bought a new battery yesterday even though the one on it isn't that old and still tested good. Here are a few other issues I'm having with it.
1)When its warm and not starting I am putting the key in and turning it to the on position (at this point all the light come on just as they should) then I turn it to the start position and I get nothing or it starts, every once in a while I might get a single click.

2) Sometimes when I'm driving the blinkers won't work. In that case I usually fiddle with the key and or turn on the hazard light after that that usually start working again.

3) There are times when using the cruise control it will turn off by itself. Sometimes I can just restart it and it start working again other times it won't come back on.

Is it possible that all these are related? Also this is my first MB so I'm definitely going through a learning curve.

edgarinho10

There is definitive something else at play if your cruise control shuts off. Would you happen to have the check engine light on by any chance?

phister

might be the electrical in the steering column

Raceredi

The check engine light did come on for a little while last week. (See pic) I scanned it, it came back as an O2 sensor. My daughter had put a low grade fuel in it. I filled it up with super and ran it for a while. The next time I got in it the check engine light was off.

phister

i'd throw in some techron fuel cleaner just in case hopefully she didnt ruin the o2 sensor.

race1

Hello all, thank you for this informative thread. The secondary power-up coil in my key
has broken, and like everyone else, is not working the ignition. Are there any electronics gurus who might know where I could source this coil? so to have replaced?


Thanks, John

mleskovar

"Low grade fuel" shouldn't cause a CEL. More likely than not she didn't tighten the gas cap sufficiently.

kerwinvasquez

Question I also am having this problem. I have a E320 2004, and suddenly it wont turn on. It cranks non-stop! When i put the key in the ignition it does unlock the steering wheel, but it just cranks endlessly. Please help me, if you can.

Btw names Kerwin, Pleasure.

saisaisai

Hi Moviela, I am trying to repair two keys on my dads c320 both dropped and both with broken induction coils. exactly the same as the pictures submitted by others early on in this thread.


two questions:


1) we have lost one of the broken induction coils, can i buy this component? from where?


2) the second key coil has come off the circuit board and im happy enough to solder back on, but do I need to reattach the red coil wire to each point of the solder as seen in a picture I found on the web below. if so, how can I do this?


http://s463.photobucket.com/albums/q...BKeyCoil01.jpg

inaminute 57

you should try removing battery cable from battery for 3to5 minutes I had bought a key replacement from dealer and would not turn ignitionswicht once I replace battery cable Moore problem fob worked for everything just saying