How NOT to get an alighment at the dealer
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Are they going to pay for the damage??
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If they do not use the right jig ,when they turn the steering to check caster it crashes into the gaurd!..they gave me the keys back and said sorry we couldnt complete your alignment today we will need our more experienced tech next week?? I didn't understand at the time it took me a day or so to notice the damage
Painful bit is that the entire car is dent free and original paint.
I had the ding specialist try remove it but was unsuccessful though at least not obvious to most, MB have offered to repaint or replace the gaurd, I said no point in replacing as you will never get he AMG rolling to look the same and the paint will never match, so I'm debating leaving it as is with dent repaired as far as possible
Painful bit is that the entire car is dent free and original paint.
I had the ding specialist try remove it but was unsuccessful though at least not obvious to most, MB have offered to repaint or replace the gaurd, I said no point in replacing as you will never get he AMG rolling to look the same and the paint will never match, so I'm debating leaving it as is with dent repaired as far as possible
Last edited by Pagz; 04-09-2015 at 10:59 PM.
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'Tards!...I love the explanation they gave you I would contact MBNA and offer them your experience.Sorry to see that and good luck getting it back to mint.
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Thanks guys, I guess I'm not so worried about the who pays for what its just the fact it wont ever look original ...but I'm more extreme end of that scale,most people wouldn't mind and accept it be repaired end of story.
For those who are planning to get an alignment its something to watch out for and advise the tech of your concerns!. I think also the dealer is too use to doing run of the mill MB, if something older turns up with aftermarket wheels they have no clue...Only reason I was using the dealer is because they have a toe press bar, however I have since found who my other MB dealer uses to out source too, they seem very knowledgeable so I will try there soon.
Paint is/was REALLY tidy
For those who are planning to get an alignment its something to watch out for and advise the tech of your concerns!. I think also the dealer is too use to doing run of the mill MB, if something older turns up with aftermarket wheels they have no clue...Only reason I was using the dealer is because they have a toe press bar, however I have since found who my other MB dealer uses to out source too, they seem very knowledgeable so I will try there soon.
Paint is/was REALLY tidy
Last edited by Pagz; 04-10-2015 at 12:59 AM.
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dealership can sometimes be very incompetent!
where is the damage, I don't see it?
is it the white smear below the door and fender trim?
it looks like reflections of something?
damage did it come from alignment tools damaging your paint?
do you need to have panels repainted?
Last edited by KJI3jflarryfe93; 04-10-2015 at 06:39 AM.
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Thankyou Zayed..I'm working hard to get to how I want
Dennis, Yes the alignment tool(jig)attached to the wheel has made contact with the gaurd, you can see the reflection is distorted because it was pushed in!. They have offered to replace the gaurd and repaint but I have decided I want original amg rolled gaurd and paint, maybe one day when I repair all stone chips I will fix then.
Super B, thanks yes handles are from W210/208 you can get them from MB already painted 744 its a must for 202, I already had the sensor and key parts from my donor 744 clk55, but handles were scratched so I got new ones... sorry not many photos right now need to get new c36 bumper painted first
Dennis, Yes the alignment tool(jig)attached to the wheel has made contact with the gaurd, you can see the reflection is distorted because it was pushed in!. They have offered to replace the gaurd and repaint but I have decided I want original amg rolled gaurd and paint, maybe one day when I repair all stone chips I will fix then.
Super B, thanks yes handles are from W210/208 you can get them from MB already painted 744 its a must for 202, I already had the sensor and key parts from my donor 744 clk55, but handles were scratched so I got new ones... sorry not many photos right now need to get new c36 bumper painted first
Last edited by Pagz; 04-11-2015 at 08:24 PM.
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No the C36 bumper only comes as separate parts from MB now,you need ALOT of them . C36 bumper Cover,inner support and tow hooks are complete hand built by AMG so will not fit production run C43 bumper. they are shocking fitment and require A LOT of hard work with small files to make perfect fit,if you dont want hard job buy good used bumper also new C36 bumper is heavier/stronger plastic than early ones, so weighs maybe a couple more Kg's than C43.
You can see why the C36 bumper is so expensive from MB, some guy spent along time hand making then finishing with with grinder/dremel
You can see why the C36 bumper is so expensive from MB, some guy spent along time hand making then finishing with with grinder/dremel
Last edited by Pagz; 04-12-2015 at 12:11 AM.
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No the C36 bumper only comes as separate parts from MB now,you need ALOT of them . C36 bumper Cover,inner support and tow hooks are complete hand built by AMG so will not fit production run C43 bumper. they are shocking fitment and require A LOT of hard work with small files to make perfect fit,if you dont want hard job buy good used bumper also new C36 bumper is heavier/stronger plastic than early ones, so weighs maybe a couple more Kg's than C43.
You can see why the C36 bumper is so expensive from MB, some guy spent along time hand making then finishing with with grinder/dremel
yes I think C43 has its own skeleton!.
You can see why the C36 bumper is so expensive from MB, some guy spent along time hand making then finishing with with grinder/dremel
yes I think C43 has its own skeleton!.
So if you own a c43 and your bumper sags you are pretty much screwed unless you buy a skeleton and modify it where necessary by your self?
I think Im in need of one but id really hate to buy the wrong part...
last time I spoke to the dealership about this they said its all the same for all w202 models
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No C43 bumpers are made by robots, they are same quality as updated bumpers and do not require any modification to fit..
My memory is not reliable, I check epc and C43 skeleton is same as used in all update bumpers from 6/97 , so you should be able to find one cheap
Has your bumper really sagged or does it just need some adjustment?. there are polystyrene inserts along the top of the skeleton which keep the cover straight do you still have these?
My memory is not reliable, I check epc and C43 skeleton is same as used in all update bumpers from 6/97 , so you should be able to find one cheap
Has your bumper really sagged or does it just need some adjustment?. there are polystyrene inserts along the top of the skeleton which keep the cover straight do you still have these?
Last edited by Pagz; 04-12-2015 at 12:13 AM.
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I guess you could say it needs adjustment. Its hanging a bit on one side and in the center. I think I might paint it soon so I would want it to hang perfect when I put it back on.
Im gonna take it of in the next few days to look at the skeleton since the car is on jacks with control arms off for the next week or so. Hopefully its all still there. I know the previous owner had the bumper off because he had it resprayed. Hope he didnt lose any parts
Last I remember the skeleton had some damage to it. I tore the bumper off partially once by parking too close to a curb and backing off
Im gonna take it of in the next few days to look at the skeleton since the car is on jacks with control arms off for the next week or so. Hopefully its all still there. I know the previous owner had the bumper off because he had it resprayed. Hope he didnt lose any parts
Last I remember the skeleton had some damage to it. I tore the bumper off partially once by parking too close to a curb and backing off
Last edited by PJmak; 04-12-2015 at 01:57 AM.
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i see the scratches much better now.
sorry to hear you had this problem with dealership, that technician must have been a rookie not knowing what he was doing with alignment tool?!
did he scratch both fenders or only one side?
mechanic must have felt very dumb when they gave you the keys.
she's got a sweet a$$ your car, she's very nice.
I notice one thing on your trunk, my old hawkeyes notice you have a bit of a wider panel gap on right side (AMG badge) between trunk and upper part of your taillight, the left side is having a smaller gap.
it differs a bit between both sides
check it out and let me know if i'm wrong.
i've seen this on many w202 cars
are you removing c36 bumper when you are going to get it painted?
if you get it painted while it's on the car, i bet it won't be a perfect paintjob
sorry to hear you had this problem with dealership, that technician must have been a rookie not knowing what he was doing with alignment tool?!
did he scratch both fenders or only one side?
mechanic must have felt very dumb when they gave you the keys.
she's got a sweet a$$ your car, she's very nice.
I notice one thing on your trunk, my old hawkeyes notice you have a bit of a wider panel gap on right side (AMG badge) between trunk and upper part of your taillight, the left side is having a smaller gap.
it differs a bit between both sides
check it out and let me know if i'm wrong.
i've seen this on many w202 cars
are you removing c36 bumper when you are going to get it painted?
if you get it painted while it's on the car, i bet it won't be a perfect paintjob
Last edited by KJI3jflarryfe93; 04-12-2015 at 05:29 AM.
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i see the scratches much better now.
sorry to hear you had this problem with dealership, that technician must have been a rookie not knowing what he was doing with alignment tool?!
did he scratch both fenders or only one side?
mechanic must have felt very dumb when they gave you the keys.
she's got a sweet a$$ your car, she's very nice.
I notice one thing on your trunk, my old hawkeyes notice you have a bit of a wider panel gap on right side (AMG badge) between trunk and upper part of your taillight, the left side is having a smaller gap.
it differs a bit between both sides
check it out and let me know if i'm wrong.
i've seen this on many w202 cars
are you removing c36 bumper when you are going to get it painted?
if you get it painted while it's on the car, i bet it won't be a perfect paintjob
sorry to hear you had this problem with dealership, that technician must have been a rookie not knowing what he was doing with alignment tool?!
did he scratch both fenders or only one side?
mechanic must have felt very dumb when they gave you the keys.
she's got a sweet a$$ your car, she's very nice.
I notice one thing on your trunk, my old hawkeyes notice you have a bit of a wider panel gap on right side (AMG badge) between trunk and upper part of your taillight, the left side is having a smaller gap.
it differs a bit between both sides
check it out and let me know if i'm wrong.
i've seen this on many w202 cars
are you removing c36 bumper when you are going to get it painted?
if you get it painted while it's on the car, i bet it won't be a perfect paintjob
Luckily only damaged on one side!
Well spotted, reason gap is uneven is because Boot seal pushes up one side more than the other, It is hard to get right because if you adjust low side to compensate it makes boot hard to shut. If you push down down on high side by hand it stays there but vibration makes it go back ...very annoying. maybe I need new boot seal.
Yes will remove the bumper for painting,also will be painting stainless trim 744 also like the rear bumper. I'm just waiting on right side tow hook cover to arrive, the one I got was old stock didn't fit very well.
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I guess you could say it needs adjustment. Its hanging a bit on one side and in the center. I think I might paint it soon so I would want it to hang perfect when I put it back on.
Im gonna take it of in the next few days to look at the skeleton since the car is on jacks with control arms off for the next week or so. Hopefully its all still there. I know the previous owner had the bumper off because he had it resprayed. Hope he didnt lose any parts
Last I remember the skeleton had some damage to it. I tore the bumper off partially once by parking too close to a curb and backing off
Im gonna take it of in the next few days to look at the skeleton since the car is on jacks with control arms off for the next week or so. Hopefully its all still there. I know the previous owner had the bumper off because he had it resprayed. Hope he didnt lose any parts
Last I remember the skeleton had some damage to it. I tore the bumper off partially once by parking too close to a curb and backing off
Catching these on the curb is very common for C43/Clk55 with the bumper having a low point in the middle! . there is a lot of adjustment possible for all brackets on the front so you should be able to correct any problems, but yes look to see if you have all the right parts first
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No C43 bumpers are made by robots, they are same quality as updated bumpers and do not require any modification to fit..
My memory is not reliable, I check epc and C43 skeleton is same as used in all update bumpers from 6/97 , so you should be able to find one cheap
Has your bumper really sagged or does it just need some adjustment?. there are polystyrene inserts along the top of the skeleton which keep the cover straight do you still have these?
My memory is not reliable, I check epc and C43 skeleton is same as used in all update bumpers from 6/97 , so you should be able to find one cheap
Has your bumper really sagged or does it just need some adjustment?. there are polystyrene inserts along the top of the skeleton which keep the cover straight do you still have these?
I was able to align my front bumper perfectly but it is missing those. The back is wavy like most c43 bumpers and it looks like its missing those as well. I'm hoping I'll be able to make the rear look a bit better by putting those in
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Thankyou Zayed..I'm working hard to get to how I want
Dennis, Yes the alignment tool(jig)attached to the wheel has made contact with the gaurd, you can see the reflection is distorted because it was pushed in!. They have offered to replace the gaurd and repaint but I have decided I want original amg rolled gaurd and paint, maybe one day when I repair all stone chips I will fix then.
Super B, thanks yes handles are from W210/208 you can get them from MB already painted 744 its a must for 202, I already had the sensor and key parts from my donor 744 clk55, but handles were scratched so I got new ones... sorry not many photos right now need to get new c36 bumper painted first
Dennis, Yes the alignment tool(jig)attached to the wheel has made contact with the gaurd, you can see the reflection is distorted because it was pushed in!. They have offered to replace the gaurd and repaint but I have decided I want original amg rolled gaurd and paint, maybe one day when I repair all stone chips I will fix then.
Super B, thanks yes handles are from W210/208 you can get them from MB already painted 744 its a must for 202, I already had the sensor and key parts from my donor 744 clk55, but handles were scratched so I got new ones... sorry not many photos right now need to get new c36 bumper painted first
pagz I foggot to ask you.
can you check the top of your tailight on the right side where the AMG logo is placed and see if your trunk edge is perfectly aligned with the top edge of your taillight?
you can feel this with your finger if both are aligned evenly next to each other.
it looks like your trunk edge sits a bit higher a few cm above the taillight
thanx
Last edited by KJI3jflarryfe93; 04-28-2015 at 07:49 AM.