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Old 03-25-2015, 10:52 PM
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Anybody leasing?

If so what do you guys expect to pay? I would probably do Multiple security deposits or even pay the total lease up front if it saved enough money.

Any guesses on what a monthly lease payment would be on a 85k C63s with min amount down? 12k Miles per year for 36 months

Just looking for some educated guesses.
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I'm guessing you'd be in the $1,100 - $1,300 per month range. That's with a term of 36 months @ 10k miles per year and $1k down. That's with 0 discount applied.

At this point though, that's no more than an educated guess. I'm leasing my '13 C63 for much less than that so if you'd like info. re: that payment, feel free to PM me.
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I always lease due to personal reasons as it's the best option for me. First deliveries you'll see leases of $1500/month, etc... with zero down - 36 months - 10K miles a year and it'll slowly go down from there. Comes December if demand slows down (it's likely that it won't), I won't be surprised to see $850 a month leases on $75K cars and right around $950 to $1,000 a month for a $85K car.

MBUSA has CLA45 and GLA45 on its special offers for $500 a month (read the fine print). They rarely have programs on actual AMG cars (there are many out there who have leased CLA45s for $1,000+ per month and they're not even fully loaded cars).

It all depends on the discounts you get, and factoring in the MSD always helps. If you have no credit, then pay the lease payments upfront.
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MSD's are not available on the CLA/GLA 45 since it has a "special" lease rate. MSD's are only applicable on "standard" rate vehicles.
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MSD's are not available on the CLA/GLA 45 since it has a "special" lease rate. MSD's are only applicable on "standard" rate vehicles.
Good to know. Thanks for the info.
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I always lease due to personal reasons as it's the best option for me. First deliveries you'll see leases of $1500/month, etc... with zero down - 36 months - 10K miles a year and it'll slowly go down from there. Comes December if demand slows down (it's likely that it won't), I won't be surprised to see $850 a month leases on $75K cars and right around $950 to $1,000 a month for a $85K car.

MBUSA has CLA45 and GLA45 on its special offers for $500 a month (read the fine print). They rarely have programs on actual AMG cars (there are many out there who have leased CLA45s for $1,000+ per month and they're not even fully loaded cars).

It all depends on the discounts you get, and factoring in the MSD always helps. If you have no credit, then pay the lease payments upfront.

LOL.

It's still a C class, fellas.

For $1500 per month, you can lease a 911 GTS or a Panamera GTS. Or a M6 GC or M5. Or Audi S7

While I think the C63 is quite the car... I'd rather have the cars I just mentioned. All day long.
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LOL.

It's still a C class, fellas.

For $1500 per month, you can lease a 911 GTS or a Panamera GTS. Or a M6 GC or M5. Or Audi S7

While I think the C63 is quite the car... I'd rather have the cars I just mentioned. All day long.
I agree. Looking for something in the 1000-1100 range for 12000 miles. As I said my M5 is 1289 a month so this better be less than that or I may look at other options. Also I am not taking delivery until mid Sept (or Oct depending on with '16 models come out)

MSD and the United Airlines discount should help as well.
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Originally Posted by Axxlrod
LOL.

It's still a C class, fellas.

For $1500 per month, you can lease a 911 GTS or a Panamera GTS. Or a M6 GC or M5. Or Audi S7

While I think the C63 is quite the car... I'd rather have the cars I just mentioned. All day long.
You're forgetting the fact that it's a new car and on high demand when it comes out. Many buy the car, and dealerships don't have a reason to give out discounts on a car that's Hot and new.

There are far too many people with more money than common sense, however there are also people out there who don't know or care for the difference of $1500 and $850 a month.


Originally Posted by Vinsanity12
I agree. Looking for something in the 1000-1100 range for 12000 miles. As I said my M5 is 1289 a month so this better be less than that or I may look at other options. Also I am not taking delivery until mid Sept (or Oct depending on with '16 models come out)

MSD and the United Airlines discount should help as well.
I just ran the following numbers for CA:
Base Cap Cost: $85,000 with no discount for worst case scenario.
Acquisition fee: $925
Gas Guzzler: $0
36 months lease
$0 down
RV: 61% - MF: 0.00201 (I'm assuming these)
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Total: $1,330.51 per month
Total: $1257.09 per month with seven MSD

Total Savings with MSD: $2,643.01
Monthly Savings with MSD: $73.42
Annual Return with MSD: 9.68%
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MSD is not available on this car.

So using your numbers above, what is monthly payment including 9% taxes?
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Originally Posted by Axxlrod
MSD is not available on this car.

So using your numbers above, what is monthly payment including 9% taxes?
Not saying you are wrong but why no MSD on the C63s? MB financial services states the following....


Security Deposit

While no security deposit is required on our standard lease program, in some states we offer a Multiple Security Deposit option. By putting down up to 10 refundable security deposits, you'll reduce your monthly lease payments. At lease-end, you can have your deposits refunded or rolled over into your next First Class Lease.
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I was interpreting JPBenz's post up above. I might have read too much into it.

Hopefully MSD's are available on the C63.

Any way you skin this cat... $1500 per month is too much for this car. just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Axxlrod
MSD is not available on this car.

So using your numbers above, what is monthly payment including 9% taxes?
9% tax, $85K MSRP and no discount whatsoever with RV 61%, MF of 0.00201 over the 36 months lease with zero down: $1,333.57 no MSD, and $1,259.98 with seven MSD. Again these numbers are worst case scenario on hard MSRP with no discounts, etc...

Now compare it to a $65K MSRP: $1,026.85 no MSD, and $970.47 with seven MSD.

Tax included.

MSD is available on AMG cars, and what was mentioned above is about cars on national ads. "Special" lease rate = no MSD
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Originally Posted by OC6.3AMG
9% tax, $85K MSRP and no discount whatsoever with RV 61%, MF of 0.00201 over the 36 months lease with zero down: $1,333.57 no MSD, and $1,259.98 with seven MSD. Again these numbers are worst case scenario on hard MSRP with no discounts, etc...

Now compare it to a $65K MSRP: $1,026.85 no MSD, and $970.47 with seven MSD.

Tax included.

MSD is available on AMG cars, and what was mentioned above is about cars on national ads. "Special" lease rate = no MSD

Thanks a lot OC6.3AMG! Gives me an idea of what I am in for when the time comes.
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Originally Posted by Vinsanity12
Thanks a lot OC6.3AMG! Gives me an idea of what I am in for when the time comes.
No problem. Please note that my numbers aren't accurate, however they're close enough to give you an idea. I might be leasing one this December, so who knows what kinda discounts we can get by then.

Personally I wouldn't pay more than $950 including tax for a C63 S, and that means I need to wait, and wait I can do.
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Standard Rate is .00220 before the MSD's. Standard Rate Leases are usually all AMG's, G Wagons ect.

The real question is what the residual values will be.
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Standard Rate is .00220 before the MSD's. Standard Rate Leases are usually all AMG's, G Wagons ect.

The real question is what the residual values will be.
Spill the beans already...
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Originally Posted by JPMBenz
Standard Rate is .00220 before the MSD's. Standard Rate Leases are usually all AMG's, G Wagons ect.

The real question is what the residual values will be.


why is the MF so high? that's 5.28% no one should be paying over 3% for financing in the US right now. BMW had a 0.0013 MF on all leases. I know they are more aggressive than Audi and Mercedes with leases but usually that's because of residuals they set, the MF shouldn't be any higher from Mercedes.


BMW owns the leasing world, standard loans are the way to go with Audi and Mercedes from my experience.
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Originally Posted by Aumakua
why is the MF so high? that's 5.28% no one should be paying over 3% for financing in the US right now. BMW had a 0.0013 MF on all leases. I know they are more aggressive than Audi and Mercedes with leases but usually that's because of residuals they set, the MF shouldn't be any higher from Mercedes.


BMW owns the leasing world, standard loans are the way to go with Audi and Mercedes from my experience.
That is how MB set the leases on their AMG. Basically they do not want you to lease one so the numbers are generally not great. Nothing you can change about that.

OP are you trading in the M5 ?
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Originally Posted by Aumakua
why is the MF so high? that's 5.28% no one should be paying over 3% for financing in the US right now. BMW had a 0.0013 MF on all leases. I know they are more aggressive than Audi and Mercedes with leases but usually that's because of residuals they set, the MF shouldn't be any higher from Mercedes.


BMW owns the leasing world, standard loans are the way to go with Audi and Mercedes from my experience.


The main reason is because BMW is their own bank. Mercedes has to go out and borrow the money.
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Originally Posted by Aumakua
why is the MF so high? that's 5.28% no one should be paying over 3% for financing in the US right now. BMW had a 0.0013 MF on all leases. I know they are more aggressive than Audi and Mercedes with leases but usually that's because of residuals they set, the MF shouldn't be any higher from Mercedes.


BMW owns the leasing world, standard loans are the way to go with Audi and Mercedes from my experience.
If I remember correctly AMG used to have 0.00401 MF
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The main reason is because BMW is their own bank. Mercedes has to go out and borrow the money.
Are you sure?

https://www.daimler.com/company/busi...ncial-services
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It's different when it comes to Automobile lending.
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Originally Posted by zibby43
I'm guessing you'd be in the $1,100 - $1,300 per month range. That's with a term of 36 months @ 10k miles per year and $1k down. That's with 0 discount applied.

At this point though, that's no more than an educated guess. I'm leasing my '13 C63 for much less than that so if you'd like info. re: that payment, feel free to PM me.
^^^^This, except 12k/year for $85k worth of car. $5k cap reduction will get you into the $1,100 bracket. Some cap reduction is good, but under no circumstances put too much in, if car gets totaled u are SOL
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Originally Posted by Aumakua
why is the MF so high? that's 5.28% no one should be paying over 3% for financing in the US right now. BMW had a 0.0013 MF on all leases. I know they are more aggressive than Audi and Mercedes with leases but usually that's because of residuals they set, the MF shouldn't be any higher from Mercedes.


BMW owns the leasing world, standard loans are the way to go with Audi and Mercedes from my experience.
That's why I kept leasing BMWs for the past 9 years. It was kind of addicting. I leased 3 BMWs for a little above the cost of purchasing 1.

But it's time to make a change... I hope to buy a C63S coupe in a year.
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Originally Posted by JPMBenz
It's different when it comes to Automobile lending.
Hi JP, do you know what the supplier discount might be on the c63? Or maybe what it was on the outgoing W204... My wife's coworker got around $6k off on her GLA, but it seems the d/c varies by model. I know Audi offers a flat 6% to all models.


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