_AMG_

Direct injection + Turbos =
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_mZk...eature=related

SonnyakaPig

Wow! What a great tutorial. Thanks for sharing. Learned some new stuff.

jacob502

I still dont understand why they did not equip it in the new C63 Black Series. would have been a monsterous combination

BenzoBoi

Awesome find homie!

Tackleberry

Packaging...!
The new engine will not squeeze into the confines of the current W204's engine bay.

And to be honest, as good as that new engine is, I think it lacks the character, soul and vocal range of the 6.2.

jacob502

Totally false argument. the W204 packed the Brabus V12 TT engine , which is avilable in the Brabus Bullit. There is no problem fitting the 5.5 TT engine into it

As to the vocal, well Ive seen the new 2012 CLS and it has a marvelous sound tone, but then again its a matter of personal prefrence.

Tackleberry

I seem to remember reading on the news section that MB had said, in not too many words, that the Bi-Turbo will not be going into the W204 in anyway shape or form.

It was mentioned that there were packaging issues, but you could read that as "we're not putting it in the old car and saving it for the W204's replacement.

They also stated the 6.2 will continue in the W204 C63 until it's replacement..............whenever that will be.


I don't dispute Brabus have fitted a V12 in a small space, I was simply going on the info that had been made avaialble.


Having driven the new CLS fitted with the new engine I can tell you it is mighty impressive. It does sound alomost as good, just a little muffled.

However the new engine has a lower redline than atmo 6.2, thus robbing you of that spine tingling final bark. Also the turbos do muffle the exhaust note a little.

But the most dissapointing aspect was all the popping, banging & rumbling on over run that we love so much from the 6.2 had vanished. No more cracks of thunder on the down change....!

Mind you, it did make a nice little pop on full throttle, max revs up changes.

jacob502

That doesnt mean it cannot be fitted





Whatever you may think about it. the new Stock CLS 63 kills a tune only C63 very bad

Im waiting for the new SL to come out with this new engine, that should be fun

ZephyrAMG

Seriously SICK engine...these guys keep moving forward and the quality is unsurpassed...

I would love to have a CLS biturbo...

Chocofishez

Forced induction is the easy way out and adds speed and economy at the expense of soul. If I wanted a turbocharged car I would have went straight to a 911 Turbo or GTR.

The reason I bought my C63 (and I suspect most buyers are the same) is because it has a huge F off V8 that sounds incredible and gives it presence wherever it goes. It has character and attitude that the benign 4wd FI cars just don't deliver.

I'm sure the C63 replacement will be a whale of a car and impressive in other ways.... and I'm sure I'll find my way into one someday. For now I'll enjoy my gas guzzling 'slow' NA 6.2... life's not so hard

coladin

I was alos totally impressed with the CLS63. The 5.5. had the same vocal chracteristics just slightly higher and not as loud. At th track day, though, stepping out of the CLS63 and into the C63 the sounds of the 6.2 are still king, and getting into the SLS was the icing on the cake.

I just started my 3 year tour of my C63 bbut am already 99% convinced that the CLS63 will be my next car.

hhughes1

The "official" word from AMG was that the current C class chassis was not able to handle the additional torque from the new engine. I call BS and still believe it is a matter of economics as in more justification for the higher priced versions. Additionally keeping the 6.2 in production just for the SLS would be a losing proposition as well.

Now a new Black Series with the motor sitting lower, dry sump, 565hp and a true DCT would be a game changer and well worth $125,000+

justthebest

Best video of the month. Thanks for sharing.

Jono12345

I read the chasis can not handle the 5.5

callmiro

I'm going to an AMG Performance event here in Toronto next week and will be driving the 2012 CLS63 and 2012 E63.....

I think i will be picking my next car there

justthebest

Get the CLS. The PP'd power is definitely underrated (I'd assume the E is the same way). I've been living in my car since it arrived last week.

Helms

Awesome Video! Great find OP.

_AMG_

Glad you like the video guys!
No doubt the M157 is a beast of an engine.

IAA-C63

Great video, my young daughter and I both enjoyed it.

Some of the German guys look uncomfortable on camera, but it's an informative video, and it looks like they spent some serious money on the graphics.

Still happy with my monstrous burbling 6.2 V8 though.

Saeedg48

since this car is direct injected i guess that mean we can get away with a tune that will run more boost? perhaps 21PSI?

_AMG_

Good question.
How much PSI is the OEM setup boosting?

Saeedg48

16 without P31 18.9 with P31

_AMG_

I'm sure you can run 21 PSI with a tune.

Saeedg48

50HP difference between 2.9 PSI. another 2.1 PSI will = +36HP

c32AMG-DTM

Adding boost doesn't typically work quite like that. Compressor efficiency trails off, IATs rise, etc... so there are diminishing returns to some degree when you keep adding boost.

The M157 is a monster of an engine, no doubt.