Transmission problem
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Transmission problem - SOLVED!
I am experiencing some strange issues with my transmission.
In all day driving in 'C' all is good, when in 'S' all is good but sometimes when flooring it it shifts much to soon. When in 'M' at first all is fine but after a while the real problems start. It starts to up-shift automaticly during acceleration at around 2500RPM. So when trying to accelerate out of a corner from second it jumps quickly to third, fourth etc everytime around 2500RPM. I did some testing yesterday and as soon as the troubles start in 'M' mode I cannot use the shifter pedals anymore in 'C' or 'S' mode, it briefly shows the gear I want to go into but then goes back to C or S without changing gear.
I also did a quick acceleration in first in 'M' from stand-still and then it got stuck in first untill I switches back to 'C' mode.
Now it does not go into any limp mode because when changing back to 'C' and drive normal there are no issues anymore. Also when leaving the car for the night the next morning 'M' mode is working correctly again for the first few miles and only then starting to act up again.
I had this behaviour occuring sometimes in the past and theirfore had the oil and filter replaced at 50.000 KM, I am now at around 55.000KM but it seems to get worse.
I understand then I should go to the dealer but maybe someone has already got a clue on what is going on, seems heat related to me because it only happens when driving for a while?
In all day driving in 'C' all is good, when in 'S' all is good but sometimes when flooring it it shifts much to soon. When in 'M' at first all is fine but after a while the real problems start. It starts to up-shift automaticly during acceleration at around 2500RPM. So when trying to accelerate out of a corner from second it jumps quickly to third, fourth etc everytime around 2500RPM. I did some testing yesterday and as soon as the troubles start in 'M' mode I cannot use the shifter pedals anymore in 'C' or 'S' mode, it briefly shows the gear I want to go into but then goes back to C or S without changing gear.
I also did a quick acceleration in first in 'M' from stand-still and then it got stuck in first untill I switches back to 'C' mode.
Now it does not go into any limp mode because when changing back to 'C' and drive normal there are no issues anymore. Also when leaving the car for the night the next morning 'M' mode is working correctly again for the first few miles and only then starting to act up again.
I had this behaviour occuring sometimes in the past and theirfore had the oil and filter replaced at 50.000 KM, I am now at around 55.000KM but it seems to get worse.
I understand then I should go to the dealer but maybe someone has already got a clue on what is going on, seems heat related to me because it only happens when driving for a while?
Last edited by TonCoronel; 05-02-2012 at 04:04 AM.
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Could the tranny be heating up too much??
Have you got the fluid and filter in the tranny flushed. You are supposed to at 50k km...
Id say your best bet is to bring it to the dealer, you should have warranty still? It might be throwing codes and not producing a CEL.
Have you got the fluid and filter in the tranny flushed. You are supposed to at 50k km...
Id say your best bet is to bring it to the dealer, you should have warranty still? It might be throwing codes and not producing a CEL.
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Try to reset the ECU/TCU:
1, take off the keyless go button if you have it.
2, use the key and turn it into the second position, the dash should light up and electronics should have power.
3, with out touching the brakes, floor your accelerator and hold it for at least 10 seconds.
4, while holding down the accelerator, turn the car off.
5, wait at least 2 minutes before starting up the car again. This should reset the adaptive shifting from the ECU/TCU back to default.
If you still have problem after this, then I strongly suggest you take it to the dealer for a full check up. Good luck.
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1, take off the keyless go button if you have it.
2, use the key and turn it into the second position, the dash should light up and electronics should have power.
3, with out touching the brakes, floor your accelerator and hold it for at least 10 seconds.
4, while holding down the accelerator, turn the car off.
5, wait at least 2 minutes before starting up the car again. This should reset the adaptive shifting from the ECU/TCU back to default.
If you still have problem after this, then I strongly suggest you take it to the dealer for a full check up. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by cptdaz
Check tranny and diff fluid?
Yeah tranny was flushed at 50k km and filter was replaced. I am bringing it to someone that can read-out the car before bringing it to the dealer. Its a 2008 C63 so no warrently anymore, am afraid it will cost me an arm and leg if letter the dealer find out what is wrong.
I did try the TCU reset procedure some while ago but I will give it another try.
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I used an ELM327 bluetooth dongle with my Android phone to scan the car, it gave one error : "P374A - Drivetrain", cant find any information on the internet regarding this code. I have just cleared the code, removed battery for 1 hour and did the ECU/TCU reset, lets see if it helps.
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Don't just reset the codes.. talk to you dealer, at a minimum call the SA and ask what the code means.. arbitrarily clearing the code is just asking for trouble.
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Your right but I was hoping it was a code that was thrown when I had the oil changed in the transmission and maybe it needed to be reset before the transmission would work normally again.
After a bit of driving there were 3 more errors logged
P0E66
P23D0
P0686
All reported under powertrain/drivetrain.
Taking it to a specialist next week...
After a bit of driving there were 3 more errors logged
P0E66
P23D0
P0686
All reported under powertrain/drivetrain.
Taking it to a specialist next week...
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Your right but I was hoping it was a code that was thrown when I had the oil changed in the transmission and maybe it needed to be reset before the transmission would work normally again.
After a bit of driving there were 3 more errors logged
P0E66
P23D0
P0686
All reported under powertrain/drivetrain.
Taking it to a specialist next week...
After a bit of driving there were 3 more errors logged
P0E66
P23D0
P0686
All reported under powertrain/drivetrain.
Taking it to a specialist next week...
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Well my problems are solved! Had the car diagnosed with Xentry and it didnt show any errors on the gearbox but it did show an error with the 'Up' shifter paddle of my steering wheel.
When testing the paddle shifter with Xentry it showed that sometimes when pressing the paddle no input was received and sometimes it hang.
We disconnected the paddle and now all is fine! Fortunatly no damaged gearbox or anything like that
When testing the paddle shifter with Xentry it showed that sometimes when pressing the paddle no input was received and sometimes it hang.
We disconnected the paddle and now all is fine! Fortunatly no damaged gearbox or anything like that