natman316

Ran into a 2011 M3 DCT and decided to mess around. We had a small race from a dig up to about 100mph (no traffic) and I beat him by at least 4 car lengths.

I dont know if I'm impressed with my car or disappointed with the M3.... I thought it would put up a better race even in a straight line, especially with that DCT gear box. not bashing the M3, just saying I'm surprised. I guess the M3 will really shine more on the twisties.

Lets just say I'm glad I got the C63 since I have a better interior, my car sounds better and I am quite a bit faster (in the straights at least)

Edit: My car is a stock non P31 2012 Sedan and the M3 was a 2011 DCT coupe

timsamg63

any modds?

VaclavSV

coupe or sedan?

Sincity

Ditto to above questions.

natman316

oh sorry yeah forgot to mention I have a stock non p31 sedan.

timsamg63

cm60k

Very Goood Maaaan....., fanstastic feeling >> freshy mood >> great night,

you have a piece of "GOLD" vs piece of "TOY".......

ZAYED,,

jsc1234

Nice! Yeah i was disappointed with the m3 i raced my friend from a stop at 40 i was already a car ahead and kept gaining so i stopped at 75 cause there was no point and he has the competition package i have a tune so its not realy fair

lunarx

How well do M3 engines respond to mods like headers and tune?
They dont stand a chance with only 400HP.

Anyone raced an M5?

Rsquad911

It's more the torque M3 295 vs C63 443

RSF C63

I raced an E60 M5 from a dig up to about 100. I had 2 car lengths on him up to about 75 then the M5 started gaining pretty quick.

lunarx

Lower HP cars usually do have less TQ too.
Its been established the C63 is a 500HP car thats under rated.

lunarx

Interesting on the M5.
Was worried about their top end.

RSF C63

I know that the M5 was running a Dinan chip so the top end may not be as good. M5's are supposed to be really quick in the top end though.

CPBRI

This.

Really shouldn't surprise you.

clkwork

You should feel bad for picking on a M3. There's no need to rub it in.

-=Hot|Ice=-

The M3 Dyno's with roughly 330 Hp to the rear wheels. The C63 Dynos with about 420, I believe. The M3 doesn't stand a chance.

_AMG_

The E9X M3's have slight gains with a tune not a dramatic difference like the detuned M156 engines. With a tune and exhuast I would say the S65 V8 gains around +17rwhp.
M3' have a great header design as well, I believe they are mid length headers. Very few people actually go with aftermarket headers on these cars.

Ive never raced an M5 but modded C63's have no problem going heads up with them.
The M5 really shines at triple digit speeds, has alot of top end power.

Jycke

I used to have an M5, and it is a beast once it reaches 6000+ RPM. However, as it isn't slow on low end torque either, before you reach the fun parts you are in risk of getting a fine. This is what makes the C63 so much more fun.

melmanc55

+1

Sincity

I don't know about longtubes, but they already have equal-length (IIRC) shorty headers. Still can't believe we still have log manifolds.

lunarx

Yea, it's like AMG was happy with 500HP and stopped trying.

Sincity

It must have been close to Oktoberfest and the engineers said, "Das guhd!"

Helms

Nice KILL!

vastermind

+1 on the interior part
bmw really needs to step up on the interior game..
i got inside the f10 m5 during the ny autoshow, the materials still look cheap..