Julio Perez

I need you guys opinions on this,I'm about ready to buy tomorrow a 2011 c63 with P31,keyless go,carbon fiber,multimedia,rear view camera,it's loaded,color palladium silver ,20,300 miles for $60,250.Im trading in a 09 C63 black with 34,500 miles,no P31,oe tuned and resonator delete and sec cat delete with straight pipes,dealer offer is $41,500 for my car which I bought a year ago for $52,500.Do you guys think this is a good deal or I should do better,also the 11 with P31 will be slower or faster than my 09,what do you guys think,need help,thanks.

ced357

Is this car located at the Pompano Beach dealer? If so, the car looks fantastic.

Julio Perez

Yes it is,I think is beautiful,what do you think about the deal,it is also a CPO,I forgot to mentioned that.

_timothy

$60k seems really high esp for 20k miles. for another $7k you could probably walk away with a new 2012 coupe

Julio Perez

You think is too high,when new price was $78,800,what would you do,thanks.

_timothy

its not ridiculously high but if they would do 55 i think i would be pleased. option list is great, just the 20k miles and being 2 years old would make me think twice

Julio Perez

You really think they would go that low,Mercedes of Miami has a 2010 with 30,000 miles and no P31 and they want $53,500,how about the money they are giving me for my 09?

_timothy

not sure on your trade value.. but as a reference, i got mine at MB of delray beach, 55k 2011 w/ 4900 miles... no p31, no CF interior but everything else

Julio Perez

Thanks Timothy,I guess with the p31 which is like $6,000 that's probably why they want $60,000,a month ago they were asking for $65,000,but you are right the car has 20,000 miles,I will try to either get more money for my trade,or have them go lower on theirs,thanks,any other opinions guys?

Julio Perez

Anybody else?Also I was looking forward for the 1.9% but they told me that only the 08 to 10 qualify for that rate,2011 rate is 4.99%.

vmx128

P31 and LSD are expensive options, but totoally worth it. I had a 2010 with ECU tune, and I always worried about voiding my warranty. For $6k more, I get similar performance to tuned C63s, plus better engine internals (pistons, etc.), stronger brakes and a CF spoiler (or trunk lip). Considering you will pay anywhere between $800 to $2000 for an ECU tune, you are only paying $4-5k for the extras and no warranty worries. There are plenty of threads here that discuss the importance of LSD, something that this car should have come with as a standard feature. I have driven C63s and other cars with and without LSD, and have always noticed a big difference in launches, especially when the road is not perfectly smooth. Cornering performance is also much improved.

If I had to buy another C63, I would definitely go for one with P31 and LSD. It may not matter if you want to buy your car and spend a ton on mods, but I plan on keeping my C63 stock except for getting the windows tinted.

Julio Perez

Thanks Vmx for your response,you are 100% right,will keep that in mind tomorrow when working to get a good deal on that car,thanks.

Mak C63

i think the 2011 price is very good considering the options, but the price for your car seems a little low. Are you putting back your car to stock and selling the mods?

The P31 will not be as quick as your modded car.

Julio Perez

What do you think will be a good price for my 09,I just put two weeks ago four brand new tires,the only thing that I'm keeping are the kn filters,so my 09 oe tune you think will be faster than the 11 p31?

Mak C63

I am not sure what your 09 car is worth to be honest. I know I was offered 55k for my 2011 sedan and mine does not have P31 nor CF and had 16000 miles on it.

I have driven the 2012 C63 coupe with P31 and a Eurocharged tuned sedan with LTH back to back, and the tuned car seemed MUCH quicker from 0 all the way through. The best thing to do is to drive the cars back to back on the exact same road and see for yourself.

Julio Perez

Thanks Mak,thanks all of you for the info,it's been very helpfull for me.

Fung63

this 2011 is absolutely fully loaded so I am not suprised the dealer doesnt want to go down further.. since it just went down 5k. I think if you can shave off another grand or so, it'll be a solid deal.

btw, did you check tires and other things to see if this car was tracked? brakes especially since they are very pricey on a P31

Julio Perez

You read my mind,I will try to get at least $1.000 more for my trade,the tires look new,tomorrow I will check the brakes,thank you sir.

vmx128

I owned a 2010 Sedan with Eurocharged tune, and it didn't feel quicker than my P31. Headers do add some grunt, so that could explain the difference in performance. Maybe the tune improved the throttle response a bit.

Overall, I am very happy with the performance of the P31. There are a lot of things we can do to make this car go faster, but I am just happy that I have full warranty coverage for over three years. If I need to upgrade to the next performance level, I'll buy the next gen Viper or 2015+ GT500. Maybe MB will come out with a V8TT version of the C63 with a lot more torque and HP to beat the future M3s.

Julio Perez

My 09 numbers after the tune 420 hp with 399 tq,that's also with kn filters,cd,resonator and sec cat delete.